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Muent Dai
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:08:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Dictum Factum
Originally by: Super Whopper
...realised how ignorant I was and became a teacher.


I lol'd.


LaughingLaughingLaughing

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:09:00 - [32]
 

Well yes, actual warriors are put directly in harm's way Cool

creone
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2009.05.19 18:34:00 - [33]
 

Ok i would seriously recomend any of the ct jobs i was in the nuke program and i thought my brain was gonna splode i got dqed for crohnes disease but am currently trying to go to the ct field. main reason nukes suck no multiple guess test all answers are written out. **** tons of info to memorize. but to say the least i can say im a better person because of how rigorous that school was.

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.20 00:38:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Cyprus Black on 20/05/2009 01:02:43
Originally by: Aricaan
Was wondering if there are any other DEPers that play eve.

Dont go to Great Lakes for almost a year. :(
I'm a DEPer here in Austin. Already taken the ASVAB test (scored an 84) and gone through MEPS. Unfortunately my ship date is Feb 3.

Going in for Submarine Electronics and Computer Field (SECF). Too old for nuke Sad

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.20 00:57:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
I've never understood what makes people want to join the military.

I mean sure, the hardware you get to play with is pretty cool but ultimately you are volunteering to go to some hell-hole and have people shoot at you...

I don't get it - what's the big attraction?
A lot of civilians don't understand the military. They only know of the downside because that's all they see on television and in the movies.

Civilians only see the hardcore drill seargent yelling and spitting. They only see bootcamp as a harsh form of hazing or initiation. They only see military life as rigid, one track minded, and a bit brutal.

You never hear about the upside.

Some of the officers I've met have two, three, and even four bachelors degrees. Their motivation for multiple degrees is to further enrich their lives and better themselves. They don't need them, they just have a genuine thirst for knowledge and I really respect that.

A career in the military is two fold. Duty to your country and personal enrichment of mind, body, and spirit (plus the enrichment of wallet is nice too).

The military expects a lot from us. Often everything we've got. But the rewards are equally as great. You get out what you put into it.

Aricaan
Gallente
Cobra Corp
Posted - 2009.05.20 00:59:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: Aricaan on 20/05/2009 00:58:59
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Grats I'll be going Airforce in about September. You Navy boys have it easy. Only a six week boot camp. As of last year the Airforce is now a 8 week boot camp. Same as the Army.


http://www.navy.com/about/during/bootcamp/

Looks like 8 weeks to me.

Aricaan
Gallente
Cobra Corp
Posted - 2009.05.20 01:02:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Cyprus Black
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
I've never understood what makes people want to join the military.

I mean sure, the hardware you get to play with is pretty cool but ultimately you are volunteering to go to some hell-hole and have people shoot at you...

I don't get it - what's the big attraction?
A lot of civilians don't understand the military. They only know of the downside because that's all they see on television and in the movies.

Civilians only see the hardcore drill seargent yelling and spitting. They only see bootcamp as a harsh form of hazing or initiation. They only see military life as rigid, one track minded, and a bit brutal.

You never hear about the upside.

Some of the officers I've met have two, three, and even four bachelors degrees. Their motivation for multiple degrees is to further enrich their lives and better themselves. They don't need them, they just have a genuine thirst for knowledge and I really respect that.

A career in the military is two fold. Duty to your country and personal enrichment of mind, body, and spirit (plus the enrichment of wallet is nice too).

The military expects a lot from us. Often everything we've got. But the rewards are equally as great. You get out what you put into it.


I saw the documentary TV show Carrier, and its pretty awesome.

http://www.hulu.com/carrier

I think it really shows the human side, and the reality of being out on sea.

The only thing I think they may have down played, was how much Im going to be busting my balls.

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.20 01:06:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Cyprus Black on 20/05/2009 01:18:08
Originally by: Aricaan
I saw the documentary TV show Carrier, and its pretty awesome.

http://www.hulu.com/carrier

I think it really shows the human side, and the reality of being out on sea.

The only thing I think they may have down played, was how much Im going to be busting my balls.
Oh no doubt. My recruiter told me straight up that it's going to be the hardest thing I've ever done in life. We've never been challenged like this nor have been held to such high expectations before. Not from our parents, not from our civilian jobs, and not from school.

*edit*
I don't know how long you've been a DEPer, but I recommend in the strongest possible sense that you start getting into physical shape and start getting into the habit of running.

Your recruiters office will have competitions against other offices. They'll test your knowledge of marching orders, the eleven general orders, sailors creed, and physical endurance.

That means pushups, situps, and running a mile and a half. The military is a culture of fitness. Something you'll hear a lot.

Mary Westenn
Posted - 2009.05.20 05:34:00 - [39]
 

Congrats! ^_^

Now, my first piece of advice, would be to go google articles and accounts of Navy basic military training. Get ready for everything to come.

P.S. When you actually fly to wherever your going; sleep. Sleep the WHOLE flight. Sleep when you're waiting at the USO, sleep on the bus ride if possible(Especially if it's a long, LONG distance to the base). It is very likely you will not have any sleep for two days, literally awake the entire time. When I was at basic training(discharged in basic due to heart condition) the trainee's further along us that were left to watch over us made us stand the whole night. Literally for hours. Sleep, sleep, sleep.

Yurii Chan
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.05.20 07:48:00 - [40]
 

USAF DEP here. got basics at the end of july and dreading it already (just kidding, tho a bit worried about the texan heat)

good advice in this thread, funny commentary from the civies but eh, they'll always berate until they need you anyways. Rolling Eyes

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.05.20 12:15:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Yurii Chan
good advice in this thread, funny commentary from the civies but eh, they'll always berate until they need you anyways. Rolling Eyes


Hey,that's just a few idiots. Most of us are behind the servicefolk all the way. It's just that the idiots get first shot at the front page.

DasDizzy
Beyond Divinity Inc
Posted - 2009.05.20 14:16:00 - [42]
 

Atleast you had the sense to go navy, and not cannonfodder like infantry (no offence)

Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Posted - 2009.05.20 17:47:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper
I really wanted to blow people


I see.

goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Valor Empire
Posted - 2009.05.20 18:05:00 - [44]
 

Ganna be on a carrier huh? Your actually quite lucky... In a sense..

If the shat were to hit the fan that thing is protected with the fleet around it and statistically you would have to lose half the fleet in order to simply get to the carrier, little lone sink the beast.

As far as benefits go, there are many, I was never in the military but I have many family members who were in the navy and airforce(hell even the marines) and as far as benefits go its great, most everything is tax free or simply free and if you live in base housing you dont have to pay rent, electricity, water, heat or anything besides internet and phone, hell if you live off base they give you extra monthly to pay for that stuff anyways.

While all this can be said there are many disadvantages, your employers are a pain, you might be deployed and away from home for several months, you could actually get shot or worse courtmartialled, and the quarters on those ships are pretty cramped if your a tall guy.

All in all if you want to serve your country through patriotism or simply because you dont have anywhere else to go, the military is for you, if not then you might regret it horribly as soon as you join.

Hope this helps.

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2009.05.20 18:35:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Cyprus Black on 20/05/2009 18:38:42
Originally by: goodby4u
...or simply because you dont have anywhere else to go, the military is for you, if not then you might regret it horribly as soon as you join.

Hope this helps.
That's pretty much why I enlisted. I've got hundreds of student loan rejection letters. The banks aren't lending anymore. Nobody can get a student loan for any school.

Plus even if do manage to get into school, there are no jobs left. Not even for McDonalds. My little sisters who are in high school can't find a part time job anywhere. I'm lucky to still have a job (although it's crap), but the store is going through yet another wave of layoffs and I'll be unemployed soon.

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.05.20 19:57:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Super Whopper
I, too, wanted to join the army long ago. I really wanted to blow people and countries that had never done my country wrong up for the lulz. Then I woke up and realised how ignorant I was and became a teacher. Now I try to teach the follies of war and the waste of money that the Department of Offense is.




your one funny character Super WhopperSmile

goodby4u
Valor Inc.
Valor Empire
Posted - 2009.05.20 20:02:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Cyprus Black
Edited by: Cyprus Black on 20/05/2009 18:38:42
Originally by: goodby4u
...or simply because you dont have anywhere else to go, the military is for you, if not then you might regret it horribly as soon as you join.

Hope this helps.
That's pretty much why I enlisted. I've got hundreds of student loan rejection letters. The banks aren't lending anymore. Nobody can get a student loan for any school.

Plus even if do manage to get into school, there are no jobs left. Not even for McDonalds. My little sisters who are in high school can't find a part time job anywhere. I'm lucky to still have a job (although it's crap), but the store is going through yet another wave of layoffs and I'll be unemployed soon.
Well if my 19 year old ****ant opinion is worth anything to you I say go for it, people will pretty much always be fighting eachother so atleast you will always have a job. Very Happy

rValdez5987
Amarr
Imperial Guard.
Posted - 2009.05.20 20:09:00 - [48]
 

Quote:
see new and interesting people and places, then blow them up


See I tried to join for that reason and was found medically unfit. This was back in 2005 when they were recruiting near everyone. I'm physically fit, it's just that ive got nasty asthma, and a few other issues which ended up preventing me from joining.

Since that time it is no longer even beneficial for me to join, unless its specifically to save my country during a time of global war.

BlackHawk177
West Point Military Acadamy
Posted - 2009.05.20 23:50:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: BlackHawk177 on 20/05/2009 23:50:56
Have fun in the Navy, you can make sure my ship doesn't crash when it takes me on vacation. I'm a Marine, just got back from a deployment to Afghanistan, and much as it sucked being attacked almost every day, I miss it. Nothing like being able to make some poor bastard die for his cause. Good thing I go back this winter, so only a brief vacation then back to work.

Ohh and to that guy who complained about Air Force boot camp... Quit *****ing about going to summer camp.

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2009.05.21 02:30:00 - [50]
 

So you blobbed up? Real men fly fishingboats with RPGs.

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
Posted - 2009.05.21 04:28:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Wendat Huron
So you blobbed up? Real men fly fishingboats with RPGs.


LaughingTwisted Evil

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2009.05.22 02:10:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 22/05/2009 02:13:29

no idea what it's like in the US, I'm in the UK however and seriously considering doing similar. Had my mind set on it for over a year now, just never made the decision. Parents don't approve, but I left work some months ago without another to go to and with the job market as it is and my barely-acceptable education the best I could really manage is an ICT desk job, which is all kinds of dull.

mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
Posted - 2009.05.22 02:38:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: mamolian on 22/05/2009 02:39:15
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 22/05/2009 02:13:29

no idea what it's like in the US, I'm in the UK however and seriously considering doing similar. Had my mind set on it for over a year now, just never made the decision. Parents don't approve, but I left work some months ago without another to go to and with the job market as it is and my barely-acceptable education the best I could really manage is an ICT desk job, which is all kinds of dull.


Rawr this may come as a shock.. but you don't get to fly ham drakes in rl military k? But yea.. The thoughts of a secure job in todays climate is tempting.. and can understand why you'd consider it ugh

shwarzkauph
bullets with butterfly wings
Posted - 2009.05.22 04:26:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: shwarzkauph on 22/05/2009 04:46:03
I was in the Navy for four years. Glad i did it, but glad its over with.


It was like a family tradition for me, my grandfather, uncles, me, all navy.

The first night you get there is going to be really tough. The DI's (drill instructors) are going to be yelling at you and cussing at you, for no apparent reason. You're probably going to be a little scared, I was. THinking wt f did I get myself into. It does get easier.

going #2 will be awkward because theres no stalls, just toilets next to eachother, lol. Start exercising now. you'll be doing mountain climbers till you cant move, then you'll have to run, then some jumping jacks to top it off.

Dont quit. There will be times when you want to. Be proud. Navy Boot Camp was very difficult for me, can you imagine what the Marines go through? Respect Marines.

When you get out to the fleet, that does not necessarily mean thngs get easier. being deployed is no joke. UNREPS are no fun, stores onloads are hell. But I think you said you were going into avionics are someting to do with aircraft, means you wont be ships crew, which will be a bit easier. You only get deployed with your wing. I was ships crew onboard a Guided Missile Cruiser, which meant that I lived on the ship all the time, even in homeport. Your wing leaves the ship when the deployments over, you go back to your naval air station.

Ive been to 15 different countries. been to Guantanamo Bay Cuba dozens of times.

Chances are you'll never fire a gun in anger. Your Navy.

the only navy that see's ground warefare are corpsmen who get deployed with Marines and seals.






good luck.

Sosus Red
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.05.22 04:48:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: BlackHawk177
Edited by: BlackHawk177 on 20/05/2009 23:50:56
Have fun in the Navy, you can make sure my ship doesn't crash when it takes me on vacation. I'm a Marine, just got back from a deployment to Afghanistan, and much as it sucked being attacked almost every day, I miss it. Nothing like being able to make some poor bastard die for his cause. Good thing I go back this winter, so only a brief vacation then back to work.

Ohh and to that guy who complained about Air Force boot camp... Quit *****ing about going to summer camp.


much respect Marine. Thank you.

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.05.22 05:45:00 - [56]
 

Not a day goes by I don't wish I was back in the Corps. Sad

HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2009.05.22 06:14:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: BlackHawk177
Edited by: BlackHawk177 on 20/05/2009 23:50:56
Have fun in the Navy, you can make sure my ship doesn't crash when it takes me on vacation. I'm a Marine, just got back from a deployment to Afghanistan, and much as it sucked being attacked almost every day, I miss it. Nothing like being able to make some poor bastard die for his cause. Good thing I go back this winter, so only a brief vacation then back to work.

Ohh and to that guy who complained about Air Force boot camp... Quit *****ing about going to summer camp.


dood u back? nice job on staying in one piece! good stuff

Calvin Firenze
Minmatar
Caeli Veredictum
Posted - 2009.05.22 06:49:00 - [58]
 

Edited by: Calvin Firenze on 22/05/2009 06:53:59
Originally by: JordanParey
They compensate pretty well? Not only do you get food (okay, MREs aren't exactly gourmet food, but I like them), some of the perks are pretty good. Dental, medical.. plastic surgery..

Not to mention the pay stacks Shocked

I'm Army.

Get deployed? Staying on a different base than the one you're assigned? Is there fighting going on?
Got any special skills?

Iraq. "Foreign" base pay+combat pay+hazardous duty pay+language skill pay+ special qualification pay..(airborne, specops, etc.) etc etc etc. Plus the retirement pension when you're done.

Or something like that.

Not exactly sure how it works..


Not to mention the tax exempt status you get to enjoy whilst deployed in a combat zone.

I like MRE's too, especially jumbalaya or spaghetti..those were my favorites.

Prior service Army here and my brother is graduating Navy boot camp in 2 weeks.

edit: Congratulations on joining, not many people actually have the balls to do it. They pretty it up with phrases like "I was too smart to do that" or something.

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2009.05.22 10:47:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: mamolian

Originally by: Rawr Cristina


no idea what it's like in the US, I'm in the UK however and seriously considering doing similar. Had my mind set on it for over a year now, just never made the decision. Parents don't approve, but I left work some months ago without another to go to and with the job market as it is and my barely-acceptable education the best I could really manage is an ICT desk job, which is all kinds of dull.


Rawr this may come as a shock.. but you don't get to fly ham drakes in rl military k? But yea.. The thoughts of a secure job in todays climate is tempting.. and can understand why you'd consider it


lol mamo <3

My 22nd is in a few weeks - just getting to that point I gotta get out of my home y'know? Neutral

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.05.22 10:58:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Yurii Chan
good advice in this thread, funny commentary from the civies but eh, they'll always berate until they need you anyways. Rolling Eyes


Hey,that's just a few idiots. Most of us are behind the servicefolk all the way. It's just that the idiots get first shot at the front page.

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

- Kipling.


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