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crastar
Posted - 2009.05.14 21:55:00 - [91]
 

LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!!!

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2009.05.14 21:59:00 - [92]
 

Originally by: crastar
LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!!!


lol

Yah, been an interesting day in 0.0 with these changes :(

Adeline Grey
Posted - 2009.05.14 22:11:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Jer Bu
Hmm, thing is, that Dev has an actual job. That Dev gets paid, as part of a team to build this game.

GAME.

You, on the other hand froth at the F***ing mouth every patch day when something you like changes, in this GAME.

Look at yourselves.. you are virtua-singing some kind of fake petition while screaming like little bi**tches because of a GAME.

You have to be kidding me.




A game that pays their salaries.

Seldarine
Minmatar
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2009.05.14 22:48:00 - [94]
 

my threads are the best threads

Hermosa Diosas
Posted - 2009.05.14 23:00:00 - [95]
 

Well games getting worse IMO, solo pvp is dead even before the patch..i think you can add too much to a game and CCP have done that..oh well guess its star trek online now...

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2009.05.14 23:03:00 - [96]
 

I agree, this is horrible for anything that isn't a blob. Mixed with the agility nerf. ESPECIALLY in fw, those of us who like to solo and run out in a frigate die to the first 20 man gate camp that has a few ceptors with it, no sentries to help us ofc. And now, fitting a cloak doesn't help either.

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2009.05.14 23:04:00 - [97]
 

Edited by: chatgris on 14/05/2009 23:04:24
I agree with the OP, this is horrible for anything that isn't a blob. Mixed with the agility nerf. ESPECIALLY in fw, those of us who like to solo and run out in a frigate die to the first 20 man gate camp that has a few ceptors with it, no sentries to help us ofc. And now, fitting a cloak doesn't help either.

Originally by: Hermosa Diosas
Well games getting worse IMO, solo pvp is dead even before the patch..i think you can add too much to a game and CCP have done that..oh well guess its star trek online now...


Solo pvp still had a niche... that niche was the lowliest of all ships, the frigate.

Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.15 00:52:00 - [98]
 

Thank god you people are only in charge of a video game. I am scared to think what would happen if you had real responsibilities.

Jobby
Minmatar
PURPLE.
Posted - 2009.05.15 02:28:00 - [99]
 

Please do not criticise CCCP. Thx.

Ghoest
Posted - 2009.05.15 03:15:00 - [100]
 

I think a casual flogging would suffice.

Trev Kachanov
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.15 03:30:00 - [101]
 

Anyone with half a brain could catch cloakers before the changes. Now you'd have to be brain dead not to. This was not the fix you were looking for

Nyveg
Hyperborea Re
Posted - 2009.05.15 03:42:00 - [102]
 

fired and slapped!

What was wrong with covert-ops ships having the chance to avoid sure death? Not that it was safe travel mode with the odd glitch or decloak..

Bud Johnson
Broski Enterprises
Posted - 2009.05.15 05:31:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Centra Spike
Thank god you people are only in charge of a video game. I am scared to think what would happen if you had real responsibilities.


I'm pretty sure that designing/programming a game is more work than fun.
You know, what with hunger and all.
It makes me wonder what you mean by "real responsibilities" if feeding your children doesn't qualify.

Redwing Fellen
Posted - 2009.05.15 05:50:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Redwing Fellen on 15/05/2009 05:55:27
Edited by: Redwing Fellen on 15/05/2009 05:52:34
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Zostera
Many players made a significant effort both prior too and post patch to offer moderate, thought out, reasonable feedback. Would CCP please respond to that feedback on this issue please with a reasoned explanation of their intentions and consideration of the results we now have on TQ?


Hi folks, firstly an apology from all of us for screwing up and letting this slip through the cracks despite many of you trying very hard to indicate the serious gameplay fallout in the threads you linked previously Crying or Very sad. This started out life as a minor defect where a code fix was made to stop the ECM jamming continuing to work after you had cloaked.

The intention was for only this to be fixed, however as many of you are now acutely aware, the fallout from that supposedly minor defect fix to a single issue is rather massive and game breaking for many. This was very much not an intended gameplay change from us.

The change that caused this to all happen is being reverted at the earliest possible opportunity with a hotfix (no ETA yet) but we will make this right as soon as possible.





So annoyed about this hamfisted change I actually logged in to the forums to say something about it Rolling Eyes And then I found this. CCP can be dreadful at times, but props to them for actually noticing, admitting that they screwed up and doing something this time (or at least promising too...!) and explaining it so clearly. So while before logging in I was quite happy to see whoever was responsible for this in the stocks, now, to be fair, I think that is a bit harsh.

As long as they mend my lovely covops......

Linkage to CCP admitting they got it wrong and will do something about it

Jesum
Amarr
Warmongers
Posted - 2009.05.15 05:53:00 - [105]
 

Originally by: Ladie RRama
Posted - 14/05/2009 15:22:00
Solo PvP in 0.0 is now dead


I lol'd

phyllis
Caldari
GARD Evolution
Posted - 2009.05.15 06:27:00 - [106]
 

does this mean i can get the 2 covert ops refunded me that i lost from inability to cloak fast enough? Wink

seriously tho, good to hear this was a mistake.....i havent lost a ship with covert cloak in MONTHS of running camps ....today i lost 2 in a row and got podded yay!!! coincidence?



Tallaran Kouros
Cryptonym Sleepers
Posted - 2009.05.15 08:38:00 - [107]
 

Edited by: Tallaran Kouros on 15/05/2009 08:39:06
Originally by: notrlyachar

Congratulations CCP on allowing a Dev whose only pvp experience is obviously camping gates to make game changing decisions.


Congratulations on showing a complete lack of understanding about how software is developed.

The coder who implemented this work should not be fired as he probably didn't make the decision.

There is likely a design or overview committee who decide what features will be added or which mechanics will be changed and then they assign the work to individual coders and/or teams.

The person who implemented the change should not be fired because in all likely hood it was not their decision to make.

If they call it wrong and there is enough feedback from the players then decisions like this can and will be looked at again.

OrDeR
Caldari
Muppet Factory
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.05.15 09:07:00 - [108]
 

Has anyone seen magila? Surprised nice patch can warp my titan in 3 secs =)

Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.05.15 09:25:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: Poreuomai on 15/05/2009 09:25:57
Originally by: Tallaran Kouros
There is likely a design or overview committee who decide what features will be added or which mechanics will be changed and then they assign the work to individual coders and/or teams.

That is true, but CCP now say it was a bug rather than a design decision.

Even so, firing the developer is too harsh. Looking at the whole process is more productive anyway: How did QA miss it? How does the entire team miss a 9 page thread in the dev forum? Etc.

Centra Spike
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.15 09:59:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Bud Johnson
Originally by: Centra Spike
Thank god you people are only in charge of a video game. I am scared to think what would happen if you had real responsibilities.


I'm pretty sure that designing/programming a game is more work than fun.
You know, what with hunger and all.
It makes me wonder what you mean by "real responsibilities" if feeding your children doesn't qualify.



I don't know, maybe I meant that when a doctor screws up someone might die? Or when a lawyer makes a mistake a murderer might end up back on the streets? I could go on.

So I'm glad these people are only working on an internet spaceship game.

Nowhere did I say that developing a game was easy or fun. Nor did I say that the Devs should get fired and their children left to starve.

But keep up with your moral superiority, I'm sure your empathy towards CCP will be greatly rewarded.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:01:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Centra Spike
Or when a lawyer makes a mistake a murderer might end up back on the streets? I could go on.


Ahh, your view on the world is so innocent.

CCP Soundwave


C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:01:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 15/05/2009 10:01:35
Gentlemen.

If you've not already clicked one of the many links in this thread, I'll put it up again.

Link

This is a bug, and it will be fixed.


Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:02:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 15/05/2009 10:01:35
Gentlemen.

If you've not already clicked one of the many links in this thread, I'll put it up again.

Link

This is a bug, and it will be fixed.



ETA on when we can pvp again? Sad

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:04:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 15/05/2009 10:01:35
Gentlemen.

If you've not already clicked one of the many links in this thread, I'll put it up again.

Link

This is a bug, and it will be fixed.



ETA on when we can pvp again? Sad
Next week, give or take a couple of days.

Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:22:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
ETA on when we can pvp again? Sad
Next week, give or take a couple of days.
Damn, i really don't like taking breaks from pvp.

Aneu Angellus
Caldari
VoTF.
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:35:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 15/05/2009 10:01:35
Gentlemen.

If you've not already clicked one of the many links in this thread, I'll put it up again.

Link

This is a bug, and it will be fixed.




So im guessing all ships lost to this will be reimbursed?

Aneu

Doctor Penguin
Amarr
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:40:00 - [117]
 

LOL @ Aneu being in a NPC corp.

Also,

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.05.15 10:40:00 - [118]
 

Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
ETA on when we can pvp again? Sad
Next week, give or take a couple of days.
Damn, i really don't like taking breaks from pvp.
From CCP's track record (And not the Doomsayers "record" of past events) id say its most likely to be fixed either; Sometime much later today, Really early on monday, or at latest, tuesday. There is also a slim chance they might push it out on Sat/Sunday though its not often that happens unless it is something that kills peoples computers Laughing (BOOTINI)

Wormhole Slag
Posted - 2009.05.15 11:50:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 15/05/2009 10:01:35
Gentlemen.

If you've not already clicked one of the many links in this thread, I'll put it up again.

Link

This is a bug, and it will be fixed.




Hold on a scubby second dont ladies play eve as well sexual discrimination at CCP shame on you

Alex Raptos
Caldari
Phoenix Rising.
Posted - 2009.05.15 11:57:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Wormhole Slag
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 15/05/2009 10:01:35
Gentlemen.

If you've not already clicked one of the many links in this thread, I'll put it up again.

Link

This is a bug, and it will be fixed.




Hold on a scubby second dont ladies play eve as well sexual discrimination at CCP shame on you
They;'re only about 4-5% of the subscription base Wink


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