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Renarla
Posted - 2009.05.10 00:48:00 - [1]
 

I just lost a Lachesis to a Celestis after what felt like it must have a 20-30 minute fight. It was the most mind boggling fight I had ever witnessed, so much so that I'm not even all that ****ed about losing the ship I just bought this morning... I talked to the guy afterwards, and he vaguely described his fit to me:
Medium neuts, small neuts
Large Shield Booster, Cap Booster, Point, Web
He didn't mention his lows but I assume Damage Control, and I think he might have even had WCS in the lows.
9 Hobgoblin II

Basically, he neuted me and had his drones kill me while he sat back and watched. My two assault launchers, the only things I could run, were absolutely useless because he managed his drones extremely well and only lost 1 despite me trying to kill them the entire duration of the fight. And they were no where close to putting on enough DPS to break his tank. My friend in a Drake showed up just as I was going into structure, but he was able to pop me before he got away.
I know it might not seem like much, but you should have been there... reading my corp chat as I yelled for help for 15 minutes only to have it arrive 2 minutes too late... >.<

http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?id=6653613#comment

2009.05.10 00:01:00

Victim: Dyaven
Corp: XXX
Alliance: NONE
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Lachesis
System: Palmon
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 47690

Involved parties:

Name: XXX (laid the final blow)
Security: -0.6
Corp: XXX
Alliance: XXX
Faction: NONE
Ship: Celestis
Weapon: Hobgoblin II
Damage Done: 46932

Name: XXX
Security: -1.2
Corp: XXX
Alliance: XXX
Faction: NONE
Ship: Capsule
Weapon: Velator
Damage Done: 758

Destroyed items:

N-Type Thermic Hardener I (Cargo)
Warp Scrambler II (Cargo)
Void M, Qty: 85 (Cargo)
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 240
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Qty: 2
Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Core Defence Field Extender I, Qty: 2
Defender I, Qty: 1200 (Cargo)
Medium Capacitor Booster II (Cargo)

Dropped items:

Invulnerability Field II
Fleeting Warp Disruptor I (Cargo)
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 120
Heavy Ion Blaster II (Cargo)
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher
Medium Armor Repairer II (Cargo)
Heavy Ion Blaster I (Cargo)
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Cap Booster 200, Qty: 14 (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 140
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Damage Control II (Cargo)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II, Qty: 3
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 976 (Cargo)
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 2280 (Cargo)
N-Type Explosive Hardener I (Cargo)



InSession
Kill or Die Trying
Posted - 2009.05.10 01:09:00 - [2]
 

That's pretty fail, but he - it happens.

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.10 01:22:00 - [3]
 

why would you use a blaster lach
what a terrible idea
the purpose of the blaster arazu is to solo 0.0 ratters while having the shield tank and cov ops cloak
the lach cant cloak and its split between missiles and hybrids

terrible

Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2009.05.10 01:34:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: abrasive soap
why would you use a blaster lach
what a terrible idea
the purpose of the blaster arazu is to solo 0.0 ratters while having the shield tank and cov ops cloak
the lach cant cloak and its split between missiles and hybrids

terrible


Hi. You're an idiot.

Blaster Lachesis can put out about 350-400 DPS while having enough mids for a very hefty shield tank along with EWAR that can scramble/disrupt from a distance which is always useful. The only reason I would ever not consider flying a blaster Lachesis over a Vexor/Thorax would be due to cost. Also, blaster Arazu is absolute ****.

Renarla
Posted - 2009.05.10 02:11:00 - [5]
 

Yes, as Spectre said, DPS comparable to a Thorax (though a gank Thorax would definitely out-DPS a Lach) with a heavy shield tank is what makes the blaster Lachesis viable. Take a look at the killmail, I had almost 50k damage taken before I went down.

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.10 02:40:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Spectre3353
Originally by: abrasive soap
why would you use a blaster lach
what a terrible idea
the purpose of the blaster arazu is to solo 0.0 ratters while having the shield tank and cov ops cloak
the lach cant cloak and its split between missiles and hybrids

terrible


Hi. You're an idiot.

Blaster Lachesis can put out about 350-400 DPS while having enough mids for a very hefty shield tank along with EWAR that can scramble/disrupt from a distance which is always useful. The only reason I would ever not consider flying a blaster Lachesis over a Vexor/Thorax would be due to cost. Also, blaster Arazu is absolute ****.


Wait did you just read what you just wrote? The blaster lachesis can't cloak so there is no point in using it over a deimos or tech 1 cruiser even.

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.10 02:42:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Renarla
Yes, as Spectre said, DPS comparable to a Thorax (though a gank Thorax would definitely out-DPS a Lach) with a heavy shield tank is what makes the blaster Lachesis viable. Take a look at the killmail, I had almost 50k damage taken before I went down.


And you had a large shield buffer against meager drone dps of course its going to recharge a bit. Its similar to passive tanked ships tanking over 100k dps on killmails; its not that they have that much buffer.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2009.05.10 03:20:00 - [8]
 

Seen blaster-Celestis' doing some surprise ********* on expensive ships as well. It's one of those ships I'd expect, well, any kind of fitting from.

Either case, the fittings on the ships involved.. who cares. The fact the OP posting it is pretty win already, alot more fun than in the guy killing it had posted.
..unless the OP is an alt of the Celestis-pilot.. dun DUUNN! Surprised

Eh, havn't slept tonight.

chromez0r
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.05.10 07:06:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: abrasive soap
Originally by: Spectre3353
Originally by: abrasive soap
why would you use a blaster lach
what a terrible idea
the purpose of the blaster arazu is to solo 0.0 ratters while having the shield tank and cov ops cloak
the lach cant cloak and its split between missiles and hybrids

terrible


Hi. You're an idiot.

Blaster Lachesis can put out about 350-400 DPS while having enough mids for a very hefty shield tank along with EWAR that can scramble/disrupt from a distance which is always useful. The only reason I would ever not consider flying a blaster Lachesis over a Vexor/Thorax would be due to cost. Also, blaster Arazu is absolute ****.


Wait did you just read what you just wrote? The blaster lachesis can't cloak so there is no point in using it over a deimos or tech 1 cruiser even.


WTB deimos or any t1 cruiser that can disrupt/scram @ a lachesis's range.

see what i did there?

El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.05.10 07:11:00 - [10]
 

I suggest looking up for a movie called "Two" and "countingbodies" made by willington, in the last fight in Two you see him taking out a Phobos and astarte with sentry guns on his side with 1/2 structure left, p awesome imo

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.10 07:40:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: abrasive soap on 10/05/2009 07:41:45
Originally by: chromez0r
Originally by: abrasive soap
Originally by: Spectre3353
Originally by: abrasive soap
why would you use a blaster lach
what a terrible idea
the purpose of the blaster arazu is to solo 0.0 ratters while having the shield tank and cov ops cloak
the lach cant cloak and its split between missiles and hybrids

terrible


Hi. You're an idiot.

Blaster Lachesis can put out about 350-400 DPS while having enough mids for a very hefty shield tank along with EWAR that can scramble/disrupt from a distance which is always useful. The only reason I would ever not consider flying a blaster Lachesis over a Vexor/Thorax would be due to cost. Also, blaster Arazu is absolute ****.


Wait did you just read what you just wrote? The blaster lachesis can't cloak so there is no point in using it over a deimos or tech 1 cruiser even.


WTB deimos or any t1 cruiser that can disrupt/scram @ a lachesis's range.

see what i did there?


What is the point of that range when you just close in and go to blaster range anyways... Sure they're good at deadspace tackling but why am I still posting in here you got killed by a celestis and your point range obviously didn't save you, yet people still want to defend it.

also
Originally by: Misanth
Seen blaster-Celestis' doing some surprise ********* on expensive ships as well. It's one of those ships I'd expect, well, any kind of fitting from.

Either case, the fittings on the ships involved.. who cares. The fact the OP posting it is pretty win already, alot more fun than in the guy killing it had posted.
..unless the OP is an alt of the Celestis-pilot.. dun DUUNN! Surprised

Eh, havn't slept tonight.


I had an ex-corpmate that killed tons of high sec **** including a navy mega with a blaster ecm celestis. It really ends up depending on how bad your target is.

chiefyuk
Amarr
Yawn Corp
Obscure Syndicate
Posted - 2009.05.10 10:39:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: abrasive soap
Rubbish

You dont really play eve much do you?

Space Dolemite
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.05.10 11:45:00 - [13]
 

You died to a horribly fitted ship in your horribly fitted ship. Congratulations.

PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar
yo i'm posting
Posted - 2009.05.10 11:51:00 - [14]
 

why would you get a lachesis in the first place

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2009.05.10 12:08:00 - [15]
 

What were your own drones doing?

Avan Sercedos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2009.05.10 13:38:00 - [16]
 

Quote:
2009.02.13 17:11

Victim: -----------
Corp: -------------
Alliance: ---------
Faction: NONE
Destroyed: Arazu
System: -----------
Security: 0.4
Damage Taken: 3416

Involved parties:

Name: Avan Sercedos (laid the final blow)
Security: -10.0
Corp: The Tuskers
Alliance: None
Faction: NONE
Ship: Celestis
Weapon: Light Neutron Blaster I
Damage Done: 3416


Destroyed items:

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 80
Targeting Range Dampening
Scan Resolution Dampening
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Targeting Range Dampening (Cargo)
Guristas Lead Charge M, Qty: 1000 (Cargo)

Dropped items:

250mm Railgun II
250mm Railgun II
250mm Railgun II
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 40
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Targeting Range Dampening
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 880 (Cargo)
Scan Resolution Dampening, Qty: 2 (Cargo)
Spike M, Qty: 1100 (Cargo)
Caldari Navy Lead Charge M, Qty: 91 (Cargo)



I think that these kills are symptoms of the fact that the celestis is so cheap and generally considered a lolship anyways that people are willing to fit the most bizarre things to it.

Like myself.

SyGanomo
Posted - 2009.05.10 14:38:00 - [17]
 

Lachesis, Celestis and Arazu are all awesome ships...

I would never shield tank that **** though Rolling Eyes

chromez0r
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2009.05.10 15:15:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: abrasive soap
Edited by: abrasive soap on 10/05/2009 07:41:45
Originally by: chromez0r
Originally by: abrasive soap


Wait did you just read what you just wrote? The blaster lachesis can't cloak so there is no point in using it over a deimos or tech 1 cruiser even.


WTB deimos or any t1 cruiser that can disrupt/scram @ a lachesis's range.

see what i did there?


What is the point of that range when you just close in and go to blaster range anyways... Sure they're good at deadspace tackling but why am I still posting in here you got killed by a celestis and your point range obviously didn't save you, yet people still want to defend it.


2 words, warp + scrambler

also

it wasnt me that died :D

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.10 18:27:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: chiefyuk
Originally by: abrasive soap
Awesome commenting

You dont really play eve much do you?


see this:
Originally by: Space Dolemite
You died to a horribly fitted ship in your horribly fitted ship. Congratulations.


and this:
Originally by: PostmasterGeneral
why would you get a lachesis in the first place


and this:
Originally by: Furb Killer
What were your own drones doing?



Renarla
Posted - 2009.05.10 18:57:00 - [20]
 

My own drones got killed very quickly, I had 3x HH II and 2x HG II so his light drones were able to kill my medium drones pretty quickly and effortlessly. =\

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2009.05.10 18:59:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Renarla
My own drones got killed very quickly, I had 3x HH II and 2x HG II so his light drones were able to kill my medium drones pretty quickly and effortlessly. =\


On ships with the 40m^3 dronebay I prefer going with 8 warriors or 3x valks 2x warriors as they're harder to kill.


 

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