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Davinel Lulinvega
Posted - 2009.05.07 16:45:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Enjoy that first volley Mr Primary.

Enjoy reading the op moron.


That's just mean. You must have a lot of inner pain. Do you need a hug?

Because obviously no normal well-adjusted person would insult someone who obviously skipped to the last post and tried to make a witty comment hurrr.

Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
Posted - 2009.05.07 16:46:00 - [32]
 

Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 07/05/2009 16:47:17
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
EFT-fantasy


B-/

I appreciate your creativity, but how about sticking to fits that, well, actually fit?

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2009.05.07 16:54:00 - [33]
 

I'd go with a Tach Abaddon. 3x HS II, 8x Tach II, whatever crystals give most damage for range.

-Liang

Enden Assulu
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.05.07 16:56:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Enden Assulu on 07/05/2009 16:57:28
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
[Abaddon, I win!]


Maybe you should try one that fits :)

[Abaddon, Buffer]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II

Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II

Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I

67 dps at about 150km Laughing

(It doesn't actually fit, the game doesn't allow it. Some crap about the weapon being to big or somethingCool)

Rajere
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2009.05.07 19:57:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Rajere on 07/05/2009 20:10:46
Quote:
EFT challenge for those board at work.

Mid range 'sniper' at between 50-100km doing as much dmg as possible.

the best i have so far is 920 dps at 65-75km with the abaddon
dominix 960 dps at 60km.

A fit that goes below 900 DPS but gains more range is still good for this challenge!

T2/named fittings only, on any sub capital ship hull.

EDIT: defence passive or activew is irrelivant for this challenge, DPS DPS DPS!

For the rules you posted, must be able to deal dps within 50-100km, T2 mods only, etc, then a CNR wins. Excluding the CNR, then it's the Geddon:
[Armageddon, EFT Warrioring]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]

5x T2 Sentry Drones

Could use Ogre II's for EFT DPS, but that's not really fair for a mid-range sniper contest.

Garde II x5 47km Optimal = 1081 DPS (falls somewhat short of the range unless you count falloff)
Bouncer II x5 94km Optimal = 1036 DPS

64km Optimal with Scorch. 80km Drone Control Range. ~5km initial volley (Sentry Drones + lasers).
7x Tach Geddon comes awfully close, but it can't get >49km Optimal unless you switch to longer range crystals which is why I didn't post it.

No implants, no overloading, etc. just All level V and T1+T2 mods.

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
Posted - 2009.05.07 20:33:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Enden Assulu
Maybe you should try one that fits :)


Of course it fits. Maybe you should try training your skills a bit higher?


And capital weapons without siege modules are just pointless. Unless you're fitting a full 7x siege modules, you're better off just fitting battleship weapons instead.

Davinel Lulinvega
Posted - 2009.05.07 20:37:00 - [37]
 

But I only have awu 6 Sad.

A Pacifist
We are Skeleton
Posted - 2009.05.07 20:50:00 - [38]
 

[Phoenix, serious fit]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Warp Disruptor II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Rift Torpedo I
Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Rift Torpedo I
Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Rift Torpedo I
Siege Module I

Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I

4658 DPS / 5449 DPS overheated @ 230km

Khornne
Caldari
Posted - 2009.05.07 20:55:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: A Pacifist
[Phoenix, serious fit]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Warp Disruptor II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Rift Torpedo I
Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Rift Torpedo I
Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Guristas Rift Torpedo I
Siege Module I

Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I

4658 DPS / 5449 DPS overheated @ 230km


I love the shield extenders on that fit. =]

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:13:00 - [40]
 

Apoc can hit 900 dps at 100km with faction mods...250km (but drops to 590 dps) just by changing ammo.

Gath Nihilus
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:19:00 - [41]
 

I like ppl posting dps numbers at 200km with ogres......how exactly do ur ogres fight at 200km?

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:31:00 - [42]
 

Well, I hate to trump everyone else, but the Nyx can do 3125 DPS from over 250 au. It doesn't bother dealing with mere km.

Illectroculus Defined
No Bull Ships
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:40:00 - [43]
 

Ibis:
150mm Railgun II, Spike S
Tracking Computer II (Optimal Range)
Tracking Enhancer II
14 dps @ with 63km optimal, 42 volley.

Obviously you need a friend to remote sensor boost you so you can target beyond 50km

Velator:
2 x Hobgoblin II
Drone Link Augmentor
Signal Booster II (Targetting Range)
Signal Amplifier II
Can target withing 63km and then the drones will deliver 40dps


KISOGOKU
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:41:00 - [44]
 

No offence , but 1 siege module is enough ,more than one dont bring anything and you forgot expanded cargoholdIIs to carry stront Wink
Originally by: Merin Ryskin


And capital weapons without siege modules are just pointless. Unless you're fitting a full 7x siege modules, you're better off just fitting battleship weapons instead.

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:45:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: KISOGOKU
No offence , but 1 siege module is enough ,more than one dont bring anything and you forgot expanded cargoholdIIs to carry stront Wink


Nah, you don't need cargo expanders, just a hauler to put the stront in a can. Activate a siege module, grab more stront, activate the next one, etc. Cargo space shouldn't be an issue.

And of course you need more than one, how else are you going to get 1.27e8 dps? Without that much dps, you'll have hard time solo-ing a nano titan as it will DD, align out and warp away before you can kill it. With the full 7x siege modules, you should be able to insta-pop it as long as you can get close enough for torpedo flight time to be reasonably short.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.05.07 21:53:00 - [46]
 


Quote:
And of course you need more than one, how else are you going to get 1.27e8 dps


You wont kill anything with 28 DPS.

God GirlFriend
Posted - 2009.05.07 22:31:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 07/05/2009 16:43:44
I win. Range is 227km, damage is somewhat broken, but I assume that when EFT has to get into exponential notation to display my dps, it's probably over 900. Fit is a bit tight though, so you may need to train a few more levels of AWU before using this.

[Abaddon, I win!]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II
Target Painter II

Citadel Torpedo Launcher I, Thor Torpedo I
Siege Module I
Siege Module I
Siege Module I
Siege Module I
Siege Module I
Siege Module I
Siege Module I

Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I



You just failed to read the whole description of the siege module :P

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2009.05.07 22:39:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Merin Ryskin
I win. Range is 227km, damage is somewhat broken, but I assume that when EFT has to get into exponential notation to display my dps, it's probably over 900. Fit is a bit tight though, so you may need to train a few more levels of AWU before using this.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
it's probably over 900
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
over 900
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Over 9000!!!!

Surprised

Anyway OP your best bet (assuming you don't want missiles) is probably gonna be a pulse apoc with bouncers and an omni tracking link which will hit out to 91km at most, or, possibly, a tachyon apoc with bouncers, or something like that.

Mr Reeth
Posted - 2009.05.07 23:40:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
Originally by: Mr Reeth
Enjoy that first volley Mr Primary.

Enjoy reading the op moron.


That's just mean. You must have a lot of inner pain. Do you need a hug?

Because obviously no normal well-adjusted person would insult someone who obviously skipped to the last post and tried to make a witty comment hurrr.


No normal well-adjusted person would assume that's what happened then be so enraged they felt the need to lash out viciously. Don't take it out on me if you mother didn't love you or your father loved you too much.

Terianna Eri
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2009.05.08 00:02:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Mr Reeth
No normal well-adjusted person would assume that's what happened then be so enraged they felt the need to lash out viciously. Don't take it out on me if you mother didn't love you or your father loved you too much.

Better than being an insipid troll Rolling Eyes

Mr Reeth
Posted - 2009.05.08 00:31:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Mr Reeth
No normal well-adjusted person would assume that's what happened then be so enraged they felt the need to lash out viciously. Don't take it out on me if you mother didn't love you or your father loved you too much.

Better than being an insipid troll Rolling Eyes


Hey, I was willing to let it go. But being called a moron doesn't exactly fill me with the warm fuzzy feelings.

Davinel Lulinvega
Posted - 2009.05.08 13:01:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.

DJTheBaron
Caldari
FinFleet
KenZoku
Posted - 2009.05.08 13:18:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: DJTheBaron on 08/05/2009 13:19:37
for dps at mid range, the only option is mega pulse

apoc if you want to crack the extra range but i doubt it supports the dps, leaving the geddon

amirite?

edit: + sentries

Dr Fighter
Posted - 2009.05.08 13:36:00 - [54]
 

Seems the best way to deal great dps at the mid range is with the abaddon or apoc, the raven fits are interesting and while not worth using as the only ship/fitting in a gang it would defintly help lay the hurt on BS/caps.

The tach 'baddon is what i think i will be flying and reccomending.

[Abaddon, 50km DMGDealer]
Reactor Control Unit II
4x Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
3x Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L

no rigs.

Curator II x3

This makes 1060 dpp at 50km opt with 20-25km fall off. Looks fairly cheap and will survive a smaller gangs first volly (or low sec gate guns) long enough to get out. Tho as i stated in the OP, survival is not what this is about.

Thanks.



Devine13
Devine Entity
Posted - 2009.05.08 19:48:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Gath Nihilus
I like ppl posting dps numbers at 200km with ogres......how exactly do ur ogres fight at 200km?


Easy!

Engage drones at optimum range.. then fly away until you are 200km away Very Happy
Afaik your drones will keep attacking.. (unless the target blows up)

Qui Shon
Posted - 2009.05.08 21:34:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: Qui Shon on 08/05/2009 21:50:57


Though it's been mentioned a few times (no proper fit so far though), the obvious and only answer for subcapital dps at 50-100km is the oversized gun, Tachyons.
And the most dps you get from them is obviously on the Geddon, unless you need more range then your drone control range, then it's the Abaddon/Pally/NM.

Not much of a challenge Wink


[Armageddon, Forum*****, quick and dirty]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Xray L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I


Bouncer II x5


1145 dps @ 50km (MF)
1074dps @ 60km (Gamma)
almost 1000dps at 75km (Xray)
571 dps at 100km (Standard)
496 dps at 130km (Aurora, max lock range with just 1 sb)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Abaddon, Forum*****, Quick and dirty II]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L

Ancillary Current Router I
Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Ancillary Current Router I


Bouncer II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1



1126 dps at 50km
1048dps at 60km
~900-950 dps at 75km
625 dps at 100km
544dps at 160km (Max targeting range)


The dps figures are apporximate, based on closest optimal being within 3km, every time I believe. Bouncers are 60+42km so a bit of leeway there as well.

Now, to make these actually usable, have some cap to fire their guns for longer then a few minutes, that will lower their dps a bit. But you didn't mention anything about cap stability.

It's quite possible a little further tweaking will produce better eft stats, but not by much I think. The large drop in dps after 75km is due to drone control range limit. If I were to post bull**** like some others have, Geddon would have 860 @ 100km, and Abaddon 813 @ 100 and 732 @ 160km.

Amarrbone
Posted - 2009.05.08 22:21:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Amarrbone on 08/05/2009 22:30:37
Navy Apoc

8x Tachyon II's Darkblood Mutli L
4x Amarr Navy HS (Very doable)
2x Tracking Enhancer II's
2x scripted sensor booster II's
1x Tracking Comp II scripted
3x Bouncer II's

1056DPS with 62km Optimal, 26km Fall Off
750DPS (Sans Bouncers) at 92km Optimal
500DPS at 221km Optimal with Fall off to 26km which puts you at max range.

1 free low
1 free mid
1 free rig, but only 150 points left, could do a regular Apoc with similar results.

MegaPulse II fit with bouncers and Scorch L will put 900+ DPS out at 92Km Optimal with 5x Heat Sinks, a couple of Locus rigs and tracking enhancers and be cap stable with room to fit an MWD and Reaper. Max DPS is 30km Optimal with 11km Falloff for 1100DPS

AstroPhobic
Minmatar
Holding Corp
Posted - 2009.05.08 23:21:00 - [58]
 

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, 900 @ 100?]
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Amarr Navy Gamma L

Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I
Capacitor Control Circuit I


Bouncer II x3


874 DPS at 83km. Drones have optimal of 84km. I would say assist to someone close to the target, but I don't think that works. Pretty much as glass-cannon as you can get.

Qui Shon
Posted - 2009.05.08 23:50:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Amarrbone

8x Tachyon II's Darkblood Mutli L
4x Amarr Navy HS (Very doable)

...
1056DPS with 62km Optimal, 26km Fall Off
750DPS (Sans Bouncers) at 92km Optimal
500DPS at 221km Optimal with Fall off to 26km which puts you at max range.



So less then mine when closer to 50, more when closer to 100.
I'll equalize a bit, Navy hs and db ammo, sure.

Geddon
1200@ 50
1161@ 60
634@ 97

Abaddon
1232 @ 50
1145@ 60
783@ 86
696@ 98
580@ lockrange, 160


Gabriel Virtus
hirr
Posted - 2009.05.09 08:45:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Firvain
[Raven State Issue, DPS beast]
Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
Estamel's Modified Co-Processor
Damage Control II

Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender
Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender
Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender
Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender

Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Paradise Cruise Missile

Core Defence Field Extender II
Core Defence Field Extender II
Core Defence Field Extender II

Ogre II x5


1328 dps at 250 km with all level 5 skills plus 365k ehp and 336 defence. that should be good enough


This would be cute if you didn't apply the ogre damage, which can only target to ~65km, and you cannot target anything past 250km...

-GV


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