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Xenoxide
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.04.27 18:49:00 - [1]
 

I noticed this photo taken by CrazyKinux at last years Fanfest (Linkeh) and was wondering why the decision to go with Games for Windows was dropped?

Personally I like Games for Windows (NOT Games for Windows Live, however), I think it's a good thing for PC gaming. Was the decision a certification issue? Or was it licensing costs? Or something else entirely?

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.27 18:51:00 - [2]
 

It doesn't really do anything for PC gaming anyway, so what's the point in wasting the money?


Xenoxide
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:13:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Winterblink
It doesn't really do anything for PC gaming anyway, so what's the point in wasting the money?



I guess we disagree on this point. Smile Far too often certain developers (I won't name names, but we all know who...) release sub-par games year upon year which are full of bugs and lack standard features (Such as widescreen support).

If a game is released on the Games for Windows banner it's required to pass certification (Link), which means it has to support widescreen resolutions, have proper compatibility with Vista's game features, and pass reliability testing, among other things.

Of course, it's all subjective. You could question how well it's been accomplishing these things (I do), but it's a step in the right direction until developers get their act together. Of course, the point is moot if the developer has the self-respect to regulate themselves. In which case fair play to them. Very Happy

(Also, the box style is awesome and fits in nicely with other Games for Windows and Xbox 360 titles on my shelf. Wink)

Nick Curso
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:18:00 - [4]
 

Sounds like another microsoft money making ploy like the driver certification "GIV US MONEH OR WE WILL TELL PPL YOUR DRIVERS ARE TEH DEVIL!"

Bumbum George
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:22:00 - [5]
 

Maybe its because EVE is not exclusively for Windows?!?

I could imagine MS insisting on something like that...

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:24:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Gone''Postal on 27/04/2009 19:23:54
Originally by: Xenoxide
pass reliability testing.



Thats where Eve would fail.

Kuar Z'thain
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:26:00 - [7]
 

Quote:
Sounds like another microsoft money making ploy like the driver certification "GIV US MONEH OR WE WILL TELL PPL YOUR DRIVERS ARE TEH DEVIL!"


This.

Quote:
Maybe its because EVE is not exclusively for Windows?!?

I could imagine MS insisting on something like that...


And this.

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:27:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Bumbum George
Maybe its because EVE is not exclusively for Windows?!?

I could imagine MS insisting on something like that...


GTA4.

Kuar Z'thain
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Bumbum George
Maybe its because EVE is not exclusively for Windows?!?

I could imagine MS insisting on something like that...


GTA4.


WTB GTA 4 for Mac.

Xenoxide
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.04.27 19:55:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Bumbum George
Maybe its because EVE is not exclusively for Windows?!?

I could imagine MS insisting on something like that...


GTA4.


WTB GTA 4 for Mac.


Can't help ya there, but it is on PlayStation 3 and a Games for Windows title at the same time.

Brema Gangrel
Caldari
Drama Llamas
Posted - 2009.04.27 22:42:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Xenoxide
Can't help ya there, but it is on PlayStation 3 and a Games for Windows title at the same time.


Yep but what other computer (NOT console) is it available for.

I would also hazard a guess that because the disc also contains a mac client on it, that it would automatically fail the test... and AFAIK Blizzard still distribute *that* MMO for both Mac and PC in the same box (similar to Eve Online boxed).

Also, doesnt it cost money to get it certified anyway?

Admiral Bear
Posted - 2009.04.27 22:44:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Xenoxide
Originally by: Winterblink
It doesn't really do anything for PC gaming anyway, so what's the point in wasting the money?



I guess we disagree on this point. Smile Far too often certain developers (I won't name names, but we all know who...) release sub-par games year upon year which are full of bugs



GTA4

JitaBum
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2009.04.27 22:49:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Gone'Postal
Edited by: Gone''Postal on 27/04/2009 19:23:54
Originally by: Xenoxide
pass reliability testing.



Thats where Eve would fail.


Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
Posted - 2009.04.28 15:31:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Xenoxide
I noticed this photo taken by CrazyKinux at last years Fanfest (Linkeh) and was wondering why the decision to go with Games for Windows was dropped?

Personally I like Games for Windows (NOT Games for Windows Live, however), I think it's a good thing for PC gaming. Was the decision a certification issue? Or was it licensing costs? Or something else entirely?

Well, to put it simply, "Games for Windows" was an iniciative from Microsoft to try to sell Vista as a gaming platform. As Vista failed as a product the whole thing fell off.
What's the point in pushing an OS as a gaming platform when very few people (I happen to be one) is using that OS?
So, it was really pointless.

I personally would be very offended if the box sported that label.
First, the label is simply fugly.
Second, as most EVE users are XP users (an thus DirectX 9 users) EVE online doesn't make use of DirectX 10's potential (for example, AA+HDR is flawed in DX9, but not in DX10, but the EVE client doesn't allow you to set AA+HDR.) So if they put that badge on a game but the few Vista users see that EVE really doesn't use DX10 it would just looked stupid.

I don't care for certifications. A badge like that is not a guarantee. The only guarantee to a good game is a good company with a very talented development team, as CCP has. You don't need just another company telling you "you're doing this wrong." CCP has Atari as its distributor, and I guess that's more than enough. They are doing a pretty good job and don't need Microsoft to certify that. You can have the badge, and a technically correct game, but it could be a lousy or boring game. Who cares?

So, I'm glad they dropped that badge. Unless Microsoft wants to pay for the developers needed to make the game "Games for Windows" compatible, I think CCP is doing a great job using the developers time to improve the game in other ways.

If you like how the badge looks, just print it on a sticker and put it in the box. It will look as good as the rest of your collection. Razz


 

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