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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2009.04.22 22:06:00 - [1]
 

I have an effective standing of 5.95 with Minmatar Republic.

Boundless creation is a Minmatar Corp.

A lvl 3, Q -17 agent is not available to me because my standing is not available to me, when I check info it says I need a corp standing of 1.15, and corp standing of 3.14....

Am I confused about how faction standing works? Can someone explain why this agent is not available to me even though I have a 5.95 Faction standing?

Brock Nelson
Posted - 2009.04.22 22:31:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Brock Nelson on 22/04/2009 22:33:42
Faction standing doesn't apply to research agents, only NPC corp standing applies.

Looking at your standings, your problem is that you have no standing with Boundless Creation whatsoever.

Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
Posted - 2009.04.22 22:35:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Ruziel on 22/04/2009 22:37:18
Research agents have two standings requirements, a corp standing (which faction standing does not count for) and then a faction, corp or personal standing.

As pointed out by the previous poster, you have no standing at all with Boundless Creation, so to use that agent you need to raise your effective standing with them to 1.15 before you can use that agent.

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2009.04.22 22:36:00 - [4]
 

Well then that brings me to my second question:

A couple months ago I was able to start researching with that exact agent. I now have over 2k RP with the agent, and cannot turn them in for Datacores. So is it common for me to be able to research with an agent, but not turn in RP for datacores?

Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
Posted - 2009.04.22 22:44:00 - [5]
 

There were changes made to the Connections skill in the last patch. It now no longer works on corps that you have 0 standing with. It may be enough to do one mission for them to gain a little standing so the Connections skill kicks in again.

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2009.04.22 22:46:00 - [6]
 

thank you all for the help.

DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2009.04.25 10:30:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Ruziel
There were changes made to the Connections skill in the last patch. It now no longer works on corps that you have 0 standing with. It may be enough to do one mission for them to gain a little standing so the Connections skill kicks in again.


If the OP has R&D agents with a corp then he obviously has standing with that corp.
Your point is Moot.

To the op, please bug report this, so far everyone I know who has bug reported this has gotten no responce, or one of confusion from the BH's. You started r&d with the agents so you should be able to get your R&D cores. A lot of people currently cant speak to agents they use every day so your not alone.

Please bug report this at bugs.eve-online.com

Avalon Champion
Black Thorne Corporation
Posted - 2009.04.25 10:41:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: Ruziel
There were changes made to the Connections skill in the last patch. It now no longer works on corps that you have 0 standing with. It may be enough to do one mission for them to gain a little standing so the Connections skill kicks in again.


If the OP has R&D agents with a corp then he obviously has standing with that corp.
Your point is Moot.

To the op, please bug report this, so far everyone I know who has bug reported this has gotten no responce, or one of confusion from the BH's. You started r&d with the agents so you should be able to get your R&D cores. A lot of people currently cant speak to agents they use every day so your not alone.

Please bug report this at bugs.eve-online.com



Not Necessearily, if you had access to the corp pre patch, all due to Connections, eg, you had a 0 standing (never run a mission for that corp), yet had connections 4, you would have an effective standing of 1.6.

However, post patch, you will have an effective standing of 0, as connections is not applied until you get a >0 standing (even if its just 0.01 standing), so running 1 mission with that corp will enable the connections skill to kick in.

As far as I'm aware this is working as stated, but it could be worth a bug report to clarify.

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2009.04.25 11:20:00 - [9]
 

To add to Avalon Champion post above, running missions for a R&D agent don't give standing with the agent or the corporation.

The only effect, beside the extra RP point accrued is that the missions are counted in the number of missions you have done to get a storyline of the appropriate level.


DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2009.04.25 22:39:00 - [10]
 

Fair enough. I seen where he had mentioned 3.14 corp standing and thought (well he must have nearly 2 then)...

So yea, the changes recently do hurt him (look, I am admitting I am wrong!...)..
I'll just edit both post at a later date to remove all instances of wrongdoing ;P.

Josiff
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2009.04.26 12:38:00 - [11]
 

I had the same issue & didn't realise there were changes in the last patch. It's easily fixed though, all it took was 1 level 1 mission with the corp & I was able to access my datacores again.

Gavin DeVries
Posted - 2009.04.27 02:49:00 - [12]
 

Any research agent whose level and quality requires a standing of greater than 2.0 to use will also require that you have an actual effective standing with the corp 2 points less. So that L4 Q20 agent will require you to earn a 5.0 standing with the corp even if you have an 8.95 standing with the faction.


 

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