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Ghosthunter
Posted - 2004.08.29 11:53:00 - [1]
 

I know every1 talks about "UBER" geddon and stuff, but I want gallente BS and got no isk for mega, so are dominix any good for npc killing, mining and PVP+?

Erucyll Turon
Doomheim
Posted - 2004.08.29 11:56:00 - [2]
 

Its deff good for mineing and has a large drone hold so rats wont be a problem when they spawn.

Ghosthunter
Posted - 2004.08.29 12:09:00 - [3]
 

what should I use, blasters or rails on it?

Xtro 2
Caldari
El Bastardos
EVESpace
Posted - 2004.08.29 13:02:00 - [4]
 

For the dominix to be safe you need a good tank setup, this little baby can take some massive poundings, but as a result means your damage output is considerably low.

However, when you can outlast someone who cares.

try.

High:
6xDual 250mm Rails.
Dual Pulse Lasers seemed to hit better, which is weird as hybrids are meant to have better tracking, my hybrid skill is on lvl4 and energy on lvl 2, so thats some pretty knackered "balancing" all pulse low/mid end large guns massivly outperform their hybrid counterparts.

Mids:
5x Cap Recharger 2's / Or Eutectics/Best You Can Get

Low:
1x Thermal Armour Hardener
1x Kinetic Armour Hardener
1x Explosive Hardener
1x Cap Power Relay
2x Large Armour Repairers.
Last Lowslot, See Below.

Debatable what to do with 1 slot here (either use another cap power relay, or if your cap recharge is already under 180-170 perhaps fit a 3rd repairer or a EM armour hardener, or if your boned for powergrid, just fit either a power diag or a reactor control)

Your rails will suck, unless your skills are high, pretty low hits, when in optimal though you'll hit average/decent shots, esp wrecking/excelent hits, tbh you wont take down any well setup tier2 bs with that, but you should outlast them, i know i have.

[ 2004.08.22 01:38:12 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Dual 250mm Railgun I hits [Edited Out Name], doing 49.3 damage.
[ 2004.08.22 01:38:12 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Dual 250mm Railgun I perfectly strikes [Edited Out Name], wrecking for 151.6 damage.
[ 2004.08.22 01:38:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Dual 250mm Railgun I is well aimed at [Edited Out Name], inflicting 58.7 damage.
[ 2004.08.22 01:56:34 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Bane Torpedo I belonging to [Edited Out Name] hits you, doing 243.0 damage.
[ 2004.08.22 01:56:38 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Dual 250mm Railgun I perfectly strikes [Edited Out Name], wrecking for 297.8 damage.

Poxy damage, although its fast and consistent, with a fair chunk of wrecking hits to help.

That was a raven pounding my dom btw.
Release drones, and fire away, you wont die in a 1v1, or shouldnt, you probably wont blow anyone up without help either but at least you should survice and have a good ol laff as your opponent thought hed have an easy kill, the dom is pretty damned effective, perhaps use in fleet wars to pound down on frigate/ceptor pilots, that massive drone bay is a godsend.

Ghosthunter
Posted - 2004.08.29 13:04:00 - [5]
 

k, thx

Chrome Born
Posted - 2004.08.29 13:21:00 - [6]
 

A corp mate of mine and I where testing out her dom and she had I think 4 Electron blasters and two heavy nos (may have been tech 2 meds)

Scrabled me, webbed, sucked up my cap whilst dishing out damage with the blasters, funny thing was when she released the drones on me, they did more damage than the guns ;)

13 Heavy drones are nothing to scoff at even with a good tank on board I can tell ya :)

Chrome Born.


MrRookie
M. Corp
M. PIRE
Posted - 2004.08.29 14:05:00 - [7]
 

I have a dominix and even the medium drones pwns. I can only use 12 drones but 12 ogres have an insane damage. And even if they have tracking now they dont miss that often :D
I concider the Dominix an major uber Thorax

throbbinnoggin
Gallente
Eminent Domain
Posted - 2004.08.29 14:48:00 - [8]
 

I have no 1st hand experience w/ the Domi as I've been experimenting with Amarr ships but if your willing to take an up close and personal touch which seems to be the Gallante creed try a blaster setup for npc's. Work your setup from the bottom up with thought to the tank first.

Try for lows: 1 large armor repairer (preferably named best-accomodation) and 1 T2 medium armor rep (you dont have the grid on a Dom to even think about 2 large and mounting a viable offense let alone the cap issues you'd run into). 2 or 3 hardeners of choice depending on what your facing. 2 or 3 cap relays to round out the lows or if you have enough cap you can switch for a tracking enhancer/magnetic field stabilizer. Actually you will probably need 2 or 3 PDU's preferably T2 instead of relays to fit everything I'm listing even with engineering lvl5.

Meds: 1 MWD (neccesary to close distance for blaster use), 1 webber, 3 T2 cap rechargers. Also if cap is good enough a tracking computer can replace one of the cap rechargers.

Highs: 6 electron blasters

Drone bay: mix of heavy, medium, and light drones to fill up the Dom's best asset.

For pvp not sure: maybe add a warp scrambler/disruptor and drop a gun or 2 in favor of a nosferato. I'm sure others more experienced in that area might be willing to share some basic setups in that regard, but with engineering at lvl5 all of the above listed comps should fit.

Reebo77
Turbulent
Posted - 2004.08.29 16:31:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: MrRookie
I have a dominix and even the medium drones pwns. I can only use 12 drones but 12 ogres have an insane damage. And even if they have tracking now they dont miss that often :D
I concider the Dominix an major uber Thorax



I though the max drones you can use is 10? drones to lev 5 and drone interfacing to lev 5 = 10 drones doesnt it?

Or is there another skill i cant find etc?

Nafri
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2004.08.29 16:35:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Nafri on 29/08/2004 16:37:40
Originally by: Reebo77
Originally by: MrRookie
I have a dominix and even the medium drones pwns. I can only use 12 drones but 12 ogres have an insane damage. And even if they have tracking now they dont miss that often :D
I concider the Dominix an major uber Thorax



I though the max drones you can use is 10? drones to lev 5 and drone interfacing to lev 5 = 10 drones doesnt it?

Or is there another skill i cant find etc?


damm my sis laptop for all those double posts


well the dominix has a drone bonus

maybe thy should change their seconds bonus to something drone related too, like extra damage

Reebo77
Turbulent
Posted - 2004.08.29 16:42:00 - [11]
 

Ahh drone bonus, cheers Smile

Sathana
Caldari
Murder-Death-Kill
Posted - 2004.08.29 19:05:00 - [12]
 

Domi's can deploy up to 15 drones. 10 drones +1 every lvl in gallente bs skill. I can hold up to 14, so thats plenty for me hehe :)

Frost88
Caldari
Venal Rangers
Posted - 2004.08.29 19:55:00 - [13]
 

I've seen a Domi tear a 'geddon' apart 1 v 1 in around 30 seconds. Was a devastating display, I think the setup involved an armour tank similar to the one posted, then as many nosfs as possible with remaining grid, then guns added and drones used to dish out the damage. The Dom's main strength is the fact it can do damage without using any slots or grid, if anytihng the ship is just to compliment the drones, not vice versa as it is on most ships. Use drones as your weapons and your ship as a utility gadget, see how it goes.

Shin Taka
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.08.29 23:36:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Sathana
Domi's can deploy up to 15 drones. 10 drones +1 every lvl in gallente bs skill. I can hold up to 14, so thats plenty for me hehe :)


Domi has 7k dronebay these days i think, thats 30 heavys....

agentsmitty
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2004.08.30 00:01:00 - [15]
 

shield tank your dominix
6 425mm railguns
1 XL booster, 1 shield boost amp, 2 hardners for your rats, 1 tracking computer.
Low slots should be 5 power diags and 2 cap flux.
The 425s would do decent damage at long range, and your drones will kill everything close range.

I got an even better setup for PvP Cool

Kel Shek
Posted - 2004.08.30 00:21:00 - [16]
 

with my dominix, before I could use large guns I used 6 cruiser class neutron blasters and I had no problem against anything I went against in empire (haven't taken it into 0.0 yet)

currently for missions I use 4 cruiser neutron blasters, and 2 BS neutron blasters, I got a wrecking hit last night for like 611 damage with one of the big ones, that was great, lol

seem to help speed things up, particularly against the cruiser rats

mining its great, no idea bout PvP though,


Harry Voyager
Jolly Codgers
Posted - 2004.08.30 01:01:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Harry Voyager on 30/08/2004 01:03:32
If you are going to rat hunt in 0.0, you might as well stay with the Medium turrets.

The medium turrets at least have a good chance of getting Cruisers off of you quickly, which can significantly reduce the damage you have to tank.

Even in an Armagheddon, I find that I tend to end up leaving my guns turned off, and letting my drones do most of the killing once the spawn is firmly locked onto me.

Large guns just don't do much damage, not to justify their power costs. I think about the only reasons I haven't refitted with Medium guns for rat hunting, is because the Apoc has enough grid to have a full set of decent large guns with an NPC armour tanked rig, and I don't really feel like going to all the trouble to get yet another set of guns.

Harry Voyager

Kel Shek
Posted - 2004.08.30 01:11:00 - [18]
 

I am concerned with... well, getting blown to hell if/when I go to 0.0,... I mean from NPC's

how much repairing is neccesary to actually be able to reliably take out some of those? one of the BS's? I kinda prefer blasters,... but at least in my experience in low sec empire you tend to take more damage than at range...

what sorta range and speed is needed?

there any particular systems that are good for a first foray into 0.0 for combat?

the good part on having at least mostly medium guns, is that it gives a huge amount of wiggle room for other fitting, compared to using all large guns

I would really like to go after some of the BS's and such in 0.0.... but to put it simply, I'm chicken, lol.

djubrica
Doomheim
Posted - 2004.08.30 02:10:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: agentsmitty
shield tank your dominix
6 425mm railguns
1 XL booster, 1 shield boost amp, 2 hardners for your rats, 1 tracking computer.
Low slots should be 5 power diags and 2 cap flux.
The 425s would do decent damage at long range, and your drones will kill everything close range.

I got an even better setup for PvP Cool


Yep, this is almost identical to my npc setup and can solo BS spawns with the drone army quiet OK. On ocassions when the spawn is big (2 BS, 4 cruisers) you might need to warp out and back in due to your booster draining your cap.

And agentsmitty, shut your damn mouth about the PvP setup will ya MadWink

Harry Voyager
Jolly Codgers
Posted - 2004.08.30 09:26:00 - [20]
 

In an Armagheddon, I use two Large Carapace Armour Repair units, and two armour hardeners for NPC hunting, specific to the NPCs I am hunting.

You must have the capability to run one of those armour repairers, your two hardeners, and your weapons, continuously, with spare energy to use the second armour rep as needed, if you are to survive 0.0 rat hunting. Being able to run both Large Armour reps continuously is highly recomended.

Speed is useful, but with jammer rats moving at 5km/s+ and stacking webs and warp scramblers, you are not going to be getting away from them.

In firepower, what you need most of all is staying power. You'll probably want to just fit a set of Heavy Pulse Lasers (Medium laser), rather than using hybrids at all. Every time I go hunting with someone using Hybrids, they are constantly having to go for ammo. At least with lasers, you don't have to worry about that. You will also want at least one smart bomb, preferably A Small Tech II, or larger, as there are a significant number of jammer rats will orbit within smartbomb range. That will give you a last ditch weapon for breaking out of jamming, if you have run out of other options.

Mostly, you will want drones. Lots and lots of drones. Medium Drones need to be carried, at very least, just to take care of jamming rats. Heavy drones can't keep up with them well enough to actually hit them, so save them for the cruisers and battleships. I have six Heavy drones, and ten Medium drones in my drone bay, and I'm wishing I could carry more, for losses.

Basically, start flying away from the belt, tank the spawn, and wait until all the rats are locked onto you. Launch your Medium drones, and have them attack the jamming rats. If you have free energy for weapons, start firing on the cruisers.

Once the jamming rats are dead, pull you Medium drones in, then launch your Heavy drones and any extra drones you might be able to fly. Send them after the cruisers, and concentrate on one cruiser at a time, until all the cruisers are dead. Then do the same thing for the battleships.

One thing you must be very aware of, while doing this, is what the NPC rats are doing. If, for any reason, the NPC rats stop targetting you, Pull Your Drones In Immediately! Once the rats reattack, they will target your drones first, and slaughter them. Last time I didn't pay close attention, I lost half of my drone fleet, before I could pull them in.

These battles will go on long enough that the rats will lose interest in you, and drop their lock, before noticing you (or your drones) and reaquiring.

Take good care of your drones, and they will take good care of you. If you don't have Drone V, Heavy Drones, and Drone Interfacing, don't come out to 0.0 to rat hunt. Drones are the way you kill rats out there.

Harry Voyager

Liz Bathory
Minmatar
Direct Intent
Posted - 2004.08.30 10:04:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Liz Bathory on 30/08/2004 10:07:28
or you bring friends and interceptors


1 taranis, 1 crow, that will totally **** up guristas comepletely

crow nukes the npc interceptors.. stay beyond 12 km range, so they can;t webb you, if they do that, time for a new crow

and just hammer them with lights until they all pop

then the taranis comes in and the hurting starts

groups of claws can also d the same.. 2 125mm gatlings, 2 standard launchers

kill the inties withthe launchewrs from beyond webber ranges.... then gon in really close.. and lay the smack down


 

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