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Enyono
Posted - 2009.04.13 19:52:00 - [1]
 

I'm training up recon ships right now and I was wondering if the Arazu Rail and dampen set up is still viable? Would someone be able to lock onto me from 30 km's away after all the dampening (lets assume all level 5 skills)?

Premade
Posted - 2009.04.13 19:52:00 - [2]
 

Errrr... That's an alt. There we go.

Sydian Rie
Minmatar
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:13:00 - [3]
 

Arazu is good for probing or cyno, that's about it. You can easily waste an Arazu in a T1 cruiser.

Enyono
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:15:00 - [4]
 

So the sensor dampening doesn't work anymore?

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:18:00 - [5]
 

Warp scrambler. That is all.

Enyono
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:20:00 - [6]
 

I'm not understanding. How can someone warp scramble you if they can't lock on to you?

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:21:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 13/04/2009 20:22:12
You get a bonus to warp scrambler range (the 2 point ones), and they disable MWDs. So you can use those as a substitute for webifiers and enjoy your damps.

Premade
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:26:00 - [8]
 

Wouldn't a warp disruptor be more effective as you can sit outside their target range?

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:30:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Omara Otawan on 13/04/2009 20:39:16
Ideally you have a disruptor and a scrambler. Disruptor for initial tackle, scrambler to dictate range.

Dampeners work great as long as you can ensure they are slower than you are, and the scrambler does just that. You'll be able to stay out of lockrange as long as their undampened targetting range is below 110km give or take a few.

[Arazu, RSD]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Warp Disruptor II
Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening
Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening
Remote Sensor Dampener II, Targeting Range Dampening

200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Thorium Charge M
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2


Rigs to taste, targetting system subcontroller or drone durability enhancer are good options imo.

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:31:00 - [10]
 

The damps are pretty meh but the bonus to warp scrambler and disruptor range - along with the covops cloak - is pretty useful. It's a specialist ship - if you're expecting a solo pwnmobile you'll be disappointed, but I'm used to flying in specialist roles and I find it a very useful ship.

Resipsa Loquitor
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.04.13 20:34:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Enyono
I'm not understanding. How can someone warp scramble you if they can't lock on to you?


The bonuses you get are RSD strength and warp scrambler/disruptor range. So, you can lock them down and you can dampen them, but to really crush their range down (especially a bs) you really need to use 3x damps with range scripts at high recon and RSD skill. Even then, not all 3 damps hit all the time, so you'll get bleed-through locks. And, of course, things like FoF cruise and drones will eventually find their way to you.

The second problem is overall damage. 3 250s with Spike and 4 med drones wtih no drone damage bonus are your best at optimal RSD range. Not exactly pouring out damage.

Finally, you have that bs locked down and you're working on him and feeling pretty proud of your ninja recon skills. What happens when the second ship arrives, like a t2 frigate, for the rescue? You're using everything to keep the bs at bay and you're starting to feel a little thin.

Overall, the 'raz is a good partner ship to another recon that has better design to work in close, like a rapier. However, why not then just use a Falcon with its multiple "I win" buttons and put a point on your short-range bruiser?


 

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