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Scotty Tremain
Posted - 2004.08.24 18:01:00 - [1]
 

There have been a lot of changes, and additions to Combat this and PVP that. Everyone thinks miners are carebears. When will we see some changes to help the lowly miner? Like larger cargo mods or better mining drones. How about a better minng ship so we can stop hearing about how a "Battle"ship is for battle not for mining, even though I can produce more with one than any other ship. All suggestions welcome

Nicholas Marshal
Caldari
Lisa Needs Braces
Posted - 2004.08.24 18:30:00 - [2]
 

I agree with this. Mining needs to be given the same advanced skill route that other trades have. At present, everyone can mine everything easily.

Skills need to be introduced (very advanced ones) to allow specialisation and new equipment/ships.

Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
En Garde
Posted - 2004.08.24 18:50:00 - [3]
 

*sends scotty back to reading honor harington*

yeah we need skills like Sharpmining 5% bonus to mining laser range, Rapid mining 5% to mining laser cool down, cookie bakeing 5% bonos to muching cookies, mining laser upgrades 5% reduktion to mining laser CPU fitting reqs.....


^^ hmmm no thx mining is just fine

Spaceman
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.24 18:55:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Lilan Kahn
*sends scotty back to reading honor harington*

yeah we need skills like Sharpmining 5% bonus to mining laser range, Rapid mining 5% to mining laser cool down, cookie bakeing 5% bonos to muching cookies, mining laser upgrades 5% reduktion to mining laser CPU fitting reqs.....


^^ hmmm no thx mining is just fine


Cookie munching is already available on the market Lilan, your so behind the times....



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Rhonstet
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:01:00 - [5]
 

Everyone can fit mining lasers that can extract Arkanor.

Not everyone can pilot a battleship firing cruise missiles.

I don't think that is right.

Rock Jockey
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:04:00 - [6]
 

I'd like to see more use/benefit from Deep Core mining

Idara
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:18:00 - [7]
 

I also believe there should be some more speciality things placed in game for Mining, seeing how all anyone needs to get is an Apoc to mine effectively.

Although I'm not for the idea of having specialized, mega-huge-cargo-hold ships with mining laser turret spots, as all people will do is get those and AFK mine in 1.0. Which is "teh sucks".

Yvonne Line
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:25:00 - [8]
 

Heard a rumor about mining getting some attention. For instance the Osprey is supposedly gonna get a 5% yield per lvl or sum.

Idara
Caldari
Queens of the Stone Age
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:26:00 - [9]
 

Um....bit behind the times there Yvonne. The Osprey and...err..some Minnie tash pile, as already gotten like +40% per mining laser yield per cruiser level.

Nyk0n
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:29:00 - [10]
 

Mining has enough love already.

It already makes FAR more isk than anything else.

If anything it needs a lil nerf bat love

Rock Jockey
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2004.08.24 19:37:00 - [11]
 

All a mining nerf would accomplish is inflation

Cruz
Out of Order
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:15:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Idara
Um....bit behind the times there Yvonne. The Osprey and...err..some Minnie tash pile, as already gotten like +40% per mining laser yield per cruiser level.

its 20%

Angelhunter
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:15:00 - [13]
 

oh please, no more mining love. We need Battleship love, nerf our guns, nerf our drones, Missles are lined up next. This is supposed to be a game of risk vs reward. Let me risk my Battleship rat hunting in 0.0 where full spawns can jump in 20k from you and **** you in seconds, or sit in .5 space mining omber or Kernite.

Combat classes need more love and balancing, not mining.

Alberto
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:15:00 - [14]
 

I am a miner and yes mining needs more love. I am starting to feel left out.


A few things I think we need:

1. New minerals and ore to mine and sell.

2. New DCM minerals and ore.

3. Deep core mining drones that canít be hurt buy the gas cloud. p.s. pleas make them blue donít just cut and paste.

4. Mining ship new ones not old nerfed ones.

5. new mining skills like:
Quote:
yeah we need skills like Sharpmining 5% bonus to mining laser range, Rapid mining 5% to mining laser cool down,

Alberto
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:19:00 - [15]
 



LaughingWe also need an inflatable mining buddy for those lonely mining days! Laughing

Cruz
Out of Order
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:22:00 - [16]
 

jet can mining should be nerfed.

Tacnafarias
Solar Nexus.
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:36:00 - [17]
 

No, no, no. Please leave mining alone.

I've already said that to be a good miner you don't just need Mining 5 and Astro 5. There are plenty of skills you can train so anyone thinking that there aren't enough skills to be a advanced miner, please stop thinking.

True, there aren't as many skills involved in mining as compared to other professions, but to be honest, it is much easier. One of the few difficult parts is fighting of the boredom.


Oh, please don't blanket nerf jet cans, maybe work something out for high sec if you have to.

Origim
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2004.08.24 20:39:00 - [18]
 

Please note that this topic is NOT about making Mining produce even more ISK, it is about making it less linear. For combat, one can contemplate for up to an hour which setup to use.. for mining, it's a 2-minute job where all you have to figure out is how many co-processors to stick in.

Arcticblue2
Gallente
Nordic Freelancers inc
Posted - 2004.08.24 22:41:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Cruz
jet can mining should be nerfed.


You really want things to be expensive don't you ?, how are miners and producers suppose to get enough minerals from ? running back and forth with the goods ??? the more time we need to do that the less time to mine minereals needed to build battleships and other ships and equipment for the fighters and pirates.
Wich would result in higher prices and more whining from the fighters and pirates about how expensive things are.

ActiveX
Dragon Wolf Enterprises
EVESpace
Posted - 2004.08.24 22:53:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Arcticblue2
Originally by: Cruz
jet can mining should be nerfed.


You really want things to be expensive don't you ?, how are miners and producers suppose to get enough minerals from ? running back and forth with the goods ??? the more time we need to do that the less time to mine minereals needed to build battleships and other ships and equipment for the fighters and pirates.
Wich would result in higher prices and more whining from the fighters and pirates about how expensive things are.


You could mine with other players, they do exist.

C0RPSE
Doomheim
Posted - 2004.08.24 23:16:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Lilan Kahn

yeah we need skills like Sharpmining 5% bonus to mining laser range, Rapid mining 5% to mining laser cool down, cookie bakeing 5% bonos to muching cookies, mining laser upgrades 5% reduktion to mining laser CPU fitting reqs.....


^^ hmmm no thx mining is just fine

roflmfao

Al Thorr
Caldari
The Wheel
Posted - 2004.08.24 23:20:00 - [22]
 

Lets face it the use of the miner 2 is the only tech 2 unit that requires a lev 4 in a skill ( should be lev 5 mining by now)( yeah I know facts could be wrong but dont quote me :).

As with refining there should / could be either an approriate mining skill or even an approriate laser crystal that allows better mining yield. atm a 7 day old noob can use a tech 2 item and this has gotta be stopped imho.

Must admit a mining laser / skill / crystal - to the ore mined would be nice to see as then maybe even weld could be a profitable mineral to mine

Regards Al Thorr

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2004.08.24 23:27:00 - [23]
 

Belt navigation skills would be nice, being able to reduce the signature of asteroids and allow safer passes.

Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
All the things she said
Posted - 2004.08.25 00:00:00 - [24]
 

Games allready got a massive hurt factor when you lose as far as the time to replace factor goes....

Specialise mining, yeah sure, another 60-70 days training on a setup to be just a miner... lets be honest, who realy..... enjoys being just a miner.

I mine, as do just about most others, but's only to support what id rather be doing elsewhere..

Look how many have ditched mining in the last couple of months... exactly...

Just release the dam miner 3, or named miner 2's...... intrest enoughRazz


Orb Lati
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2004.08.25 00:22:00 - [25]
 

To combat boredom howabout having a tetris style mini game where each "block" is the ore you get per turn and more effiently you organise them the more ore you can fit into your cargo hold. Razz

now back to reality. just get the more advanced mining drones into the game would be a nice start.

Tacnafarias
Solar Nexus.
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2004.08.25 00:57:00 - [26]
 

I personally don't mind mining, it's the time it gives you to do other things that is the good part. Sit in Help, chat to corp/buddies. Maybe it's just me, probably is...

Synex
Gallente
PCG Enterprises
Posted - 2004.08.25 03:06:00 - [27]
 

I too quite enjoy mining. We don't do many corp mining events in BIG, but when we do its fun to get together and work at stripping a belt, along with the logistical problems of organising miners, haulers, protection etc.

The whole resource gatherering / manufacuring thing needs a big overhaul as at the moment the process is VERY simplistic. Hell, even EnB had a good crafting system in place!


Dao 2
Thenta-Makur
Posted - 2004.08.25 04:33:00 - [28]
 

aye manufactoring is a bit jacked (i make my own ammo somewhat AMMO COLLECTION!!! and the missiles i use ;p) i really like the idea of having specialsed setups for building certain things.... like ram for tech 1 :D components would be cool too... but the tech 1 components should be able to be manufactored and should be in extremely large supply ;p just mkaes it more speciliazed, funnier and a real thing ;p

Mandrift
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2004.08.25 05:07:00 - [29]
 

I'd like to see some more things to do while mining. Siting in a belt for 2 hours just droping ore into a can gets old real fast. Maybe advanced mining to find what spot on the roid is best for harvesting or you have to manage the power of your mining lasers so you don't make the roid go smish.


Cutter John
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
Posted - 2004.08.25 05:39:00 - [30]
 

i always found it rather insane that the devs actually made it so players had too mine/haul. rather, i think they should have made it so that mining was performed by npc's that you hired to mine and haul, and the players would provide protection. they could reduce the limitations placed on pirates then, as no mining op would be without protection. naturally the mining and indy skills would factor in to the types of npcs you could hire.

that aside, some sort of interaction in the mining process to spice it up would be nice. more mining lasers really isnt the answer.. its still boring, you are just mining more while being bored.


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