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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:55:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Nyphur on 01/04/2009 11:56:38
Hey,

Our little alliance has spent the past two weeks living inside a very lucrative wormhole system with the aid of a medium POS. In total, the loot we've made while out here has a current market value of over 6 billion ISK. This includes gas, polymers, wrecked sleeper relics, malfunctioning sleeper relics, hybrid datacores, hybrid RAM, hybrid decryptors, sleeper tags and sleeper salvage. This loot was acquired through a very nice trait of this particular wormhole system, which I'll explain in the moment. Additionally, our haul would have been much greater if we had more pilots consistently online. We only had approximately 10 pilots online at peak times.



What is this special trait?
Anyone that's lived in a wormhole system will know that the system eventually becomes depleted of major resources. Gas and asteroid sites will respawn regularly but anomalies, magnetometric and radar sites will take a long time to replenish. This means you can't farm a single system for massive profit. However, our system's special ability allowed us to effectively bypass these conditions - it appears to be some kind of wormhole hub system.

Our system can only ever spawn outgoing wormholes into class 3 type C247 wormhole systems. We catalogued over 20 wormholes in the system and every single one was type C247. We never recieved a single incoming wormhole or a single wormhole that wasn't type C247. We don't have a wide enough reference sample to know whether this is normal behaviour for a class 4 system or not but it was extremely useful. Since a wormhole system must always have a wormhole in it, we were guaranteed to always have one leading to a class 3 system. What this means is that you have an endless supply of class 3 systems to run for loot. We're leaving to look for a class 6 but that class 4 system really was a farming corp's paradise. An endless supply of class 3 anomalies, archeology and hacking sites.

A new wormhole opens every day to a new system and when the system dries up, you can collapse it and get a new system. It also means you can get in as many ships and as much POS fuel as you like because C247 systems have a strong tendancy to also link to lowsec. We had a lot of success with manually collapsing the wormhole when we wanted a new system and worked out how to do it so that we always ended up back in our original system.


How the trade will work:
To my knowledge, nobody has sold a wormhole system before, so I want to specify the terms of the trade:

#1 - I have an alt in the system with a ship fitted with probes. When the winning bidder pays, I will use this alt to scan down the current class 3 wormhole, then enter it and scan out the current lowsec/0.0 wormhole. If that location is unsuitable to the buyer, I will return and do the same again the next day when a new wormhole will have opened up.

#2 - The buyer will recieve a full set of bookmarks into and out of each wormhole on the route to the destination system.

#3 - The buyer will recieve all the intel we have on the system, what tends to spawn there, how the encounters work etc. We will also provide all the info on what can be found in class 3 systems, how best to run the anomalies and how much isk can be made running the different sites. I will also include some nice snippets of information you won't find anywhere else on how to maximise profit, a good POS setup, and how to safely collapse an unfavourable wormhole entrance.

#4 - I will personally provide lifetime after-care in the form of advice answering any questions the buyer might have. I will also leave my probe alt behind and if the buyer ever somehow gets locked out of the system, I can scan down an exit for them.

#5 - If the system's outgoing wormholes stop linking to C247 wormholes and start becoming random, at any time in the two weeks following the purchase, I will refund the entire purchase price.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.03.30 05:57:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Nyphur on 01/04/2009 11:55:41


...continued.


Sale info:

Start bid: 500m
Minimum bid increment: 100m
Buyout: Evemail me offers.
Bidding ends: Sunday 5th April 21:00 EVE Time
Sniper rule: 15 minutes


System sold for 10b isk. Isk has been recieved.




I am aware that the start bid is a bit low for a system that let 10-15 people produce 6b worth of loot in two weeks but loot prices may come down and I'm not sure how much interest there'll be in this. I'm also not sure how rare it is to find a special hub system like ours. What I can promise is that we made 6b worth of loot in two weeks using only 15-18 players (10 on at peak times) and a medium POS.


Proof of loot can be provided, as can a whole slew of screenshots showing the POS setup we had and some of the anomalies and archeology sites.
By way of a character reference to ensure everyone knows I'm trustworthy, here are some links to two large public investment schemes I ran, and the thread where the companies were liquidated and the capital returned to investors. I have been a strong supporter of the EVE community over the years, from my editing and writing work in EON magazine to being a strong voice on the internal management team of the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate in their glory days and now I run a weekly EVE Online column at massively.com. I'm sure there are countless people that would vouch for me.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=510513
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=510515
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=547851
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=547856
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=687283
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=738243

Even so, if anyone would prefer that Chribba hold the isk until the my claims about the system are proven, that could be arranged. The buyer would have to pay Chribba's fee, however, if any is applied.


Thanks for reading and let me know if you're interested.

EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
Posted - 2009.03.30 13:56:00 - [3]
 

I have been living in WH space for a couple of weeks now. If this WH Class 4 does continue to have new links show up always pointing to Class 3's then it does open a lot more options for Mag and Radar sites specifically.

I have known Nyphur for a good while and done a fair bit of business with him and I don't question the legitimacy of this sale. I also know he wouldn't falsely advertise the operation. Frankly if I didn't already have 2 POS's setup in my Class 3 wormhole I would purchase this myself.

Michel Licari
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.03.30 14:59:00 - [4]
 

If you and your corp have made 6bil here in the last 2 weeks, and you have a pos setup, why would you want to sell this to the public for 500mil?

Free bump otherwise. Rolling Eyes

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.03.30 15:16:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Michel Licari
If you and your corp have made 6bil here in the last 2 weeks, and you have a pos setup, why would you want to sell this to the public for 500mil?

Free bump otherwise.

500m is the start bid, I expect it will go much higher than that once people become interested.
We left primarily because we had our hearts set on bringing a few carriers into wormholes and tackling the highend sleeper content. Once we realised that class 3 and 4 stuff was completable with BS, HACs and command ships very easily and that we would never be able to get a carrier into the system, we decided to stay for one more week and then leave. Our plan now is to find a class 6 wormhole and move our pilots into it along with three carriers for remote rep support. I believe we could make more in a class 6 wormhole than when we were in our class 4 and we're prepared to tackle that difficulty level.

There's also the fact that we've explored all that class 3s and 4s have to offer and a class 6 will be new an exciting again. Although the isk was amazing, most of our pilots were getting bored of running class 3 anomalies. It's a perfect haven for the type of corp that likes to farm consistently but most of our alliance are more interested in exploring new content, figuring sleeper space out, making some big scores and building t3 cruisers. A class 6 is the logical choice for us now. Our POS was dismantled and brought back to empire a few days ago and all we have left in there is my alt in a probe ship, a spare probe ship and a few secure cans.

Project Viper
Posted - 2009.03.30 17:39:00 - [6]
 

I'll start you out with 500m, which I know will not last for long, but I'll start there.

Anopheli
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
Posted - 2009.03.30 21:22:00 - [7]
 

I've posted a write up of your expedition on the general forums here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1038042

Tempest Kane
Amarr
Reikoku
Posted - 2009.03.30 22:52:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Tempest Kane on 30/03/2009 22:54:35

I will offer 1bill. I would opt for the use of the suggested 3rd party.

I assume full documentation will be provided.

My reasons are less about the WM bookmarks and more about the potential information on how to successfully capitalize on the benefits of wormholes effectively gained from such an exchange.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.03.31 01:30:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Nyphur on 31/03/2009 01:46:36

Originally by: Tempest Kane
I will offer 1bill. I would opt for the use of the suggested 3rd party.

I assume full documentation will be provided.

My reasons are less about the WM bookmarks and more about the potential information on how to successfully capitalize on the benefits of wormholes effectively gained from such an exchange.

I will provide as complete documentation as I possibly can. For some sites we didn't catalogue which ships were the triggers for the next wave but for most we either recorded or can remember those details. Our first week was spent mostly figuring things out and our second week was our real massive profit week. It was in the second week that we really twigged on to the fact we could collapse wormholes consistently and thus farm mag/radar sites.

Just a quick note, I've modified and clarified one of the terms of sale above. The refund is available if the system loses its hub status in the two weeks directly following the sale rather than starting from when the post was made. I hope that isn't an issue, I don't think it will be as we made 6b in two weeks easily.

Current offer is 1b

EDIT: I just recieved a very enticing buyout offer via evemail. I have asked the person who made the offer whether they'd prefer their offer remain hidden until the end of the auction.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.03.31 04:22:00 - [10]
 

We now have two very nice buyout offers in-game, one being on the table for 24h and the other being on the table until the end of the auction. The buyers wish to remain anonymous at this time. I am very tempted to take this 24h offer and will make that decision tomorrow. If anyone has a big offer in mind for a buyout, evemail me please.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.03.31 13:30:00 - [11]
 

Assuming it's a genuine offer, I'm probably going to go with the generous buyout offer I was evemailed by midnight EVE time. If anyone has an offer to present, please evemail me it or post the bid here. If the buyout offer falls through, the auction will continue. I will update the thread with any further developments.

ToG
Amarr
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
Posted - 2009.03.31 21:54:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: ToG on 31/03/2009 21:54:49
Although Nyphur may very well complain about me posting here, I feel it only fair to inform people that the buyout will be in effect within the next few hours and so assuming it is legit, the wormhole may be sold very soon.

edit: Assuming of course a better offer is not made.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.04.01 05:03:00 - [13]
 

I am pleased to announce that we have just closed a deal for the sale of New Thelan for 10 billion isk. This sets a strong precident for the value of extremely useful finds in wormhole space such as this hub system. The client prefers to remain anonymous for security reasons and my unnamed alt will be working with them over the next few days to help them get established in our former home system.

We will hold onto the isk for the next two weeks and if in that time something happens to remove the system's status as a class 3 wormhole hub, we will work out a reimbursement deal with the client.

This auction is now closed. Thank you for reading :).

DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2009.04.02 10:34:00 - [14]
 

Your my Not Superman
If it falls through I offer 1 isk.

------
NeverForgetTheNaughtyPeople

Minervio
Posted - 2009.04.02 12:12:00 - [15]
 

What a bizarre aution...

10bn for a geographical location and background info. I gotta say that is one awesome way to make money, and there am I scrambling around spending days actually doing plexes and WHs, why not just sell them to other people, all the profit, none of the risk.


shavada
Posted - 2009.04.02 13:04:00 - [16]
 

Quote:
What a bizarre aution...

10bn for a geographical location and background info. I gotta say that is one awesome way to make money, and there am I scrambling around spending days actually doing plexes and WHs, why not just sell them to other people, all the profit, none of the risk.

Wait you believe it got sold for 10bn? I dont, rofl
You see its a nice strat to make threads about selling a few systems for loads of ISK - acting as if it actually got sold (to some guy that wishes to remain anonymous ofcourse) and then posting your next 'sell a system' thread with "see this one sold as well for 10bn, so its worth it!"

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.04.02 14:05:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Nyphur on 02/04/2009 14:08:00
Originally by: shavada
Quote:
What a bizarre aution...

10bn for a geographical location and background info. I gotta say that is one awesome way to make money, and there am I scrambling around spending days actually doing plexes and WHs, why not just sell them to other people, all the profit, none of the risk.

Wait you believe it got sold for 10bn? I dont, rofl
You see its a nice strat to make threads about selling a few systems for loads of ISK - acting as if it actually got sold (to some guy that wishes to remain anonymous ofcourse) and then posting your next 'sell a system' thread with "see this one sold as well for 10bn, so its worth it!"

I can understand the doubt but it was a real sale. Here are a few screenshots, with the names blanked out:

Evemail asking to remain anonymous:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0904/systemsold3.png

Evemail upping the offer to 10b:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0904/systemsold1.png

Journal history showing isk transfer:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0904/systemsold2.png

We also had a potential offer from Ricdic, who can vouch for the fact he would have paid a few billion for the system. I don't think he would have stretched to 10b but our buyers did and it was an offer I seriously couldn't refuse. In 2 weeks time, assuming no reimbursement is required, this isk will be split up among my alliance members so you can wait 2 weeks and ask them if they got a big fat paycheck. I can also see if the buyer might wish to come forward at some stage if required, but their mail specifically requested their name remain anonymous. If it's really required, I could also have someone trustworthy do an API audit on my account to prove the isk was sent from a legitimate entity and the journal screenshot isn't from singularity or something.

It's a real sale, and although the buyers will most certainly make more than the 10b they paid within the next month, I'm still as shocked as anyone that it sold for that much isk.

Cagot
Spelunkers
Posted - 2009.04.10 07:56:00 - [18]
 

Confirming that I've done business with Nyphur several times over the past few years, usually with esoteric stuff, and each time the transactions have been above-board and not misrepresented. I don't know anything about the current transaction other than what the thread says, but I believe the sale happened as he says based on those previous interactions with him.

And I'm not his alt. :)



 

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