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Ishbuanium
Sector 10 Enterprises
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:50:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Ishbuanium on 25/03/2009 18:50:29
I am very happy to see that we actually are important to you CCP.

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Aiden Tyrik
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:50:00 - [32]
 

Excellent decision CCP, this was really the only fair thing to do.

Moostang
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:50:00 - [33]
 

Thank you CCP. I would also like to request that in the future, any non-critical policy changes be discussed among the players that keep eve's lights on before they are implemented.

Greme
Amarr
Slacker Industries
The Boat Violencing Initiative
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [34]
 

Devswarm win again /o\

But in all seriousness, glad to see that you kept by the rules that were in place, and showed the ability to correct issues instead of ignoring them.

Professor Dumbledore
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [35]
 

^_^

destinationZERO
Minmatar
Pain Management Services
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [36]
 

AHAHAHAHA

CCP SERIOUS COMPANY

AHAHAHAHAHAH

Moneyboi
Amarr
Veldspar Trading Company.
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [37]
 

I love you CCP!
Don't mind my 100 petition in which i said something different <3

Svett
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [38]
 

Just a reminder to all you wild kids out there ;
He who whines most, wins!

Wolf Parade
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:51:00 - [39]
 

Good thing they didn't want the name BoB anyways....oh wait

Swamp Ziro
Ultimate Betrayal.
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Svett
Just a reminder to all you wild kids out there ;
He who whines most, wins!


at least we play by the rules CoolCoolCoolCool

Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [41]
 

group hug?

Rick Thwaites
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Rick Thwaites on 25/03/2009 19:04:49
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I failed my 3rd snypah, and all I got was this yellow text...

I think CCP made the right choice.

Vio Geraci
Amarr
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [43]
 

Thank you for reviewing the case, CCP ^_^

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Fred0
Oh My God. The amount of drama back and forth is amazing. :)


I almost didn't go to work today because of all the delicious drama on the forums was just too good. I hope some of those hundreds of new forum alts decide to stay and make the forums a more lively place. ugh

The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: GM Grimmi
We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information wed collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples.

We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies.



on the one hand this is a good resolution

however, the explanation for it strains credulity

1. why were you unaware that kenzoku was a longstanding pet alliance? this is hardly 'news' and alliances have born-on-dates

2. when were all these other 'permissable' name changes? what makes it 'ok' to change a name? we have lots of anecdotal responses from players saying that namechanges were denied for a variety of reasons, yet few (if any) well-known cases where voluntary namechanges were allowed. seeing the hard data on # of changes vs # of denied changes would allow us to stop speculating and focus on actual numbers

3. what is the actual policy on name changes? what differentiates a legal name-change from an impermissible namechange?

la la~

Aulina Darkstone
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:52:00 - [46]
 

GM Grimmi is an hero.Very Happy

Vincent Gaines
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:53:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Svett
Just a reminder to all you wild kids out there ;
He who whines most, wins!


you should be happy, "Band of Brothers Reloaded" was not only horrible, but jesus... just embarassing.

SauI Tigh
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:53:00 - [48]
 

Man now there is no precedent to change goonswarm to "Goonswarm 2 Son of z0r"

Xodius Raldari
Amarr
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:53:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: GM Grimmi
the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands.


what.

anyways, good thing.

Nick Curso
TunDraGon
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:53:00 - [50]
 

Hey do we threadnaught now?

Ria Sotori
Caldari
Poor Old Ornery nOObs
Turdz Asshatz N Grieferz
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:53:00 - [51]
 

WOW! Way to bow to cyberassault CCP. I take back my previous comments in COAD about it. not only did you cave in to Mentally-Challenged Swarm but you started talking about petitions on the forums.

All Hail the new era in EVE!

GRATZ!

Carfex
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [52]
 

Congrats to caving in to Goon tears.

Totally Slick
GoonFleet
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Svett
Just a reminder to all you wild kids out there ;
He who whines most, wins!

you should have whined even more in your petitions

Beaty Swollocks
T.R.I.A.D
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [54]
 

LOL


A little bit of whining seems to go a LOOOOONG way in this game, be it for ship nerfs or what ever.


Talk about have no balls to stand up to a few bell ends.

OV Marius
Gallente
Core Antum
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [55]
 

lol Confused

Hong Jiansen
The Brewing Company Ltd
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [56]
 

Good choice CCP

Svett
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Originally by: Svett
Just a reminder to all you wild kids out there ;
He who whines most, wins!


you should be happy, "Band of Brothers Reloaded" was not only horrible, but jesus... just embarassing.


I still say we should be Disband of Brothers.

Khlitouris RegusII
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: GM Grimmi
We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information wed collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples.

We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies.



on the one hand this is a good resolution

however, the explanation for it strains credulity

1. why were you unaware that kenzoku was a longstanding pet alliance? this is hardly 'news' and alliances have born-on-dates

2. when were all these other 'permissable' name changes? what makes it 'ok' to change a name? we have lots of anecdotal responses from players saying that namechanges were denied for a variety of reasons, yet few (if any) well-known cases where voluntary namechanges were allowed. seeing the hard data on # of changes vs # of denied changes would allow us to stop speculating and focus on actual numbers

3. what is the actual policy on name changes? what differentiates a legal name-change from an impermissible namechange?

la la~


They don't know they make it all up as they go along.

Teclis van'Dreike
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [59]
 

Nice alliance, we take it.

Lady Lard
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2009.03.25 18:54:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Carfex
Congrats to caving in to Goon tears.

their first mistake was caving in to kenny tears


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