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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2009.03.25 21:28:00 - [31]
 

Just get off the buff/nerf bandwagon and skill Polaris.

wickedpheonix
Caldari
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund
31ST Reliables Division
Posted - 2009.03.25 21:35:00 - [32]
 

I'll stick with my drake kthxbai.

Taak Coram
Gallente
Outdated Host Productions
Posted - 2009.03.25 22:11:00 - [33]
 

I'm sure this has been said, but just train what you want to train. Forget FOTMs and what other people say. If you see something pretty, train for it.

Just have fun Very Happy

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.03.25 22:43:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Trader20
Everyone keep flying Amarr, my em/therm tanked mega wants to have a word with you all.Twisted Evil
Which then promptly dies to a burst tanked Raven with Bane torps. ugh

Go ahead and train Amarr for the laser fotm. Just realise that its going to be quite a bit longer to get effective results than that 3 week old mission running raven alt or the neuting domi pilot with all level 4 skills. Twisted Evil

The Djego
Minmatar
Hellequin Inc.
Posted - 2009.03.25 23:26:00 - [35]
 

Skill for Minmatar, it canīt get worse(ok it can but it is highly unlikely). Laughing

Btw I actualy skill Minmatar atm, till CCP decides that Blasterships should be usefull again. Sad

northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Terran United Federation
Posted - 2009.03.25 23:44:00 - [36]
 

Train Amarr because the Empire needs loyal pilots!

gpfwestie
Gallente
Westie Engineering
Posted - 2009.03.26 00:25:00 - [37]
 

But my alt is training Amarr !

I think they rock, lazors with scorch ammo do blaster like damage at > 3 Meters (roughly the range of blasters)

What's not to like ?

Al'Htaed
Posted - 2009.03.26 01:45:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Al''Htaed on 26/03/2009 01:47:53



Verx Interis
Amarr
SkyNet.
Posted - 2009.03.26 03:47:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Trader20
Everyone keep flying Amarr, my em/therm tanked mega wants to have a word with you all.Twisted Evil
Which then promptly dies to a burst tanked Raven with Bane torps. ugh


Don't forget most Amarr pilots use explosive drones. Teh Pain.

Dramaan
Posted - 2009.03.26 04:59:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Dramaan on 26/03/2009 05:00:03
If new to pvp take most sp bs in game typhoon is cheep and you newer will be primary target for the other gang most of the time.
Razz

Shade Millith
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.03.26 05:52:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Shade Millith on 26/03/2009 06:02:21
Originally by: Al'Htaed
- Drake is an amazing mission runner only behind a Nighthawk
- Raven: good battleship, great for POS bashing or ratting, not so much in sniper fleet engagement due to missile flight time.


Both of these ships are actually very good for PVP, so long as it's short range brawl.

A HAMDrake is (in my experiance) one of the better gank battlecruisers. It has the highest buffer of them even with MWD/scram/web, and still puts out 600+ DPS.
And a TorpRaven is certainly no slouch against other BS's, though it does suffer very servearly against anything smaller.

Just don't try to use missiles for range on anything other than capitals and POS's

Franga
NQX Innovations
Posted - 2009.03.26 06:13:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Trader20
Everyone keep flying Amarr, my em/therm tanked mega wants to have a word with you all.Twisted Evil


TWIT DETECTED!

OffBeaT
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.03.26 07:47:00 - [43]
 

the raven can still stand if you got real high skills to fit it right!

Anglo
Minmatar
Astral Mexicans
Posted - 2009.03.26 10:45:00 - [44]
 

i am lvl 5 in all races allready so i win ?

Primnproper
Posted - 2009.03.26 10:49:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Al'Htaed
Amarr. )
- t1 cruisers are sort of weak
- HACs: Zealot incredible little ship, designed to do one thing but it does it extremely well. It's a glass cannon though.
- Recons: Curse is crazy powerful in certain situations. One of the better recons.
- Battleships: Very good battleships. Abaddon is a miss though. Anything you want to do with abaddon, Apoc or Geddon will do better. If you want to snipe use Apoc, if you want ton of DPS pick an Armageddon instead. Abaddon just doesn't excel at any purpose except low sec pirating because of a large buffer tank.


Just a few corrections....

- t1 cruisers, duramaller kicks ass tank wise, pity you have to use minny guns on it, arbitrator is a really nice mini curse as well for low skill or low wallet pilots, eventhe omen isn't too bad does a nice ammount of damage and is dirt cheap.

- Hacs, the sac has one of the best tanks in the game and ham's are really good if you can dictate the range properly.

- Battlecruisers, harby is a really nice ship does loads of damage, reasonable tank, drones. prophecy not too bad, hard to fit but enormous tank and ok damage.

- Battleships, abaddon is very good, large ammounts of damage with an absolutly ridiculus tank very nice cap too.

Other than that fairly accurate.

Not supprised that a minny wouldn't rate any of the amarr ships that excel at tanking though, I've heard rust and duct tape doesn't stand up very well under fire. Razz



KhaniKirai
Posted - 2009.03.26 11:42:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: KhaniKirai on 26/03/2009 11:48:45
Originally by: OffBeaT
the raven can still stand if you got real high skills to fit it right!


No, the nerfs on cruise missiles are set too RESTRICTIVE, that you can NOT overcome them with rigs/implants and skills trained.
The maximum possible explosion velocity and explosion signature you can reach are so restrictive, that it barely matters, if you have max skills or not.
They really need to adjust the basic explosion velocity and signature on cruise FAST.

Its obvious ccp didnt calculate the maximum speed ships can reach with/without ab/mwd, that is being achieved by training navigation skills and fitting mods on them.
They obviously calculated missile damage vs BASIC UNMODIFIED Speed of BC/BS and their signature.
If that was the case, the situation would be rather ok.
As it is now, its pointless. Even on a lot of BS Sized npc ships or player ships, you cant even reach full damage with precision cruise.





Torp ravens are only usefull in some specific scenario's and are mostly dead weight.

Sorry, but i got the skills high and my amarr alt is doing the fleetwarfare nowadays.
PS: that same amarr alt is also quite faster with killing the small stuff in missions, in fact with changing his setup, he is basically faster then the raven nowadays, even when he has less skills.

Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.03.26 11:46:00 - [47]
 

I fly Caldari, and now am training Galente ships, why would I advise anyone to train somehting else then what they like to fly?

The best ships for PvP at present are Ammar, they used to be Caldari, Galente and for a short while even Minmatar. Who cares though at some point the nerf bat will strike and strike hard then everyone will fly well what ever other race again.
I suggest one flies the shps that appeal to them most, appearantly at present most people find the golden pleasure rods the most appealing... so what?


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