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Gamel
Posted - 2009.03.21 21:14:00 - [1]
 

Hear is the discussion that I had with there rep after I paid them for another week and they dropped their dec half way through.

Gamel > hi
Gamel > whats up
SuperMarine > I told you we couldnt finish the full month contract, and we pulled out mid week because some serious business in our 0.0 home, im sorry that we could not finish it , what should we have done? let our alliance die?
Gamel > that is fine but you owe me the ballance that was paid as i have said sence you pullout the contract that seems fair i paid for a week you did half a week so you owe me half the weeks payment i am not respomable for lost ships and stuff we discussed tha
Gamel > i totaly understand you had to drop the contract
SuperMarine > i wasnt saying you were, i was saying we dont have your isk, and other corporations dont refund half finished contracts
Gamel > but you should understand you owen us the half a week payment
Gamel > so you defaulted on the contract then dude
Gamel > it does not work half way you eather complet the contract or not i contracted you for the week you did half the week i understand why but the flip isd
you broke our contract so you owe me the half week if i had called off the war and you then would be i
Gamel > inti9lted to keep the isk i did not call off the war you did
Gamel > and no honerable merk corp calls off a contract mid way threw man
SuperMarine > how many mercenary corporations ahve you worked with?
Gamel > 10 to 20 maby
SuperMarine > Sorry, we are unable to refund your deposit.
Gamel > ok i willl be posting about you then man sorry about that but you did break your word brother
SuperMarine > If you fell that is neceserry
SuperMarine > we did all we could to keep the wargoing but we wernt able
SuperMarine > we apologize, but are unable to offer any type of refund for services that were rendered.
SuperMarine > We wish you the best in your endeavors, but are unable to further discuss the matter as on our end it is settled.

Total that they owe us is 500,000,000.

ishkabibble
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.03.21 21:20:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: ishkabibble on 21/03/2009 21:20:56
This belongs in crime and punishment

PS: Im not surprised at all

Edit: 1st Rolling Eyes

Gamel
Posted - 2009.03.21 21:36:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Gamel on 21/03/2009 21:42:39
Originally by: ishkabibble
Edited by: ishkabibble on 21/03/2009 21:20:56
This belongs in crime and punishment

PS: Im not surprised at all

Edit: 1st Rolling Eyes


hopefully a mod will move it then or ill just repost over there.

Lexa Hellfury
Immortal.
Posted - 2009.03.21 21:43:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 21/03/2009 21:44:21
They had to go camp a 0.0 entry gate.

Edit: They had to go own a 0.0 entry gate

SodiumCyanide
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.21 21:50:00 - [5]
 

lol contract law itt

Gamel
Posted - 2009.03.21 21:56:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 21/03/2009 21:44:21
They had to go camp a 0.0 entry gate.

Edit: They had to go own a 0.0 entry gate


this is true but that dose not make it right for them to drop the war and then take all of the pay for it.

Krychton
Amarr
Blood Inquisition
Posted - 2009.03.21 23:04:00 - [7]
 

That's a sad situation Gamel, and poor behavior for any Merc corp. I'm sure this will hurt their reputation.

Anyway, if you're interested in a more honorable and efficient alliance to finish the contract. Contact me and I'll forward you to the proper Exalted. representatives. I'm sure they'll sympathize with your grief and offer you a discount price.

Good luck out there.

Kirex
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.03.21 23:23:00 - [8]
 

Avarice?Laughing They're too busy 0wning da **** out of the NC and taking their space. By that, I mean they camp the EC-P8R/Torrinos gate sometimes and think they're hot **** while smacking the NC on the forums even though they have a higher K/D ratio on their own killboard. v0v


Mystiel Raleigh
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.22 00:44:00 - [9]
 

Wow, that SuperMarine is incompetent.

If you don't complete the contract, you don't get to take money for the contract, simple as. Idiot.

Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Not Found.
Posted - 2009.03.22 00:59:00 - [10]
 

Well, the short name of their alliance is explicit.

Avarice [FAIL]


Asuka Smith
Gallente
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Posted - 2009.03.22 01:02:00 - [11]
 

Wow that chat log pretty much is GG for them ever getting another contract.

Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.03.22 01:36:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Sky Marshal
Well, the short name of their alliance is explicit.

Avarice [FAIL]




wow. I thought that was a joke intended as smack. It's not. LOL

monomatic
Minmatar
DEATH'S LEGION
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2009.03.22 01:39:00 - [13]
 

they are bad news .. end of discussion

Steelrattty
Posted - 2009.03.22 01:54:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: monomatic
they are bad news .. end of discussion


This.

Monti Reagan
Crimson Empire.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.03.22 01:58:00 - [15]
 

G'day, mate.

monomatic
Minmatar
DEATH'S LEGION
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2009.03.22 01:59:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Steelrattty
Originally by: monomatic
they are bad news .. end of discussion


This.


sod u scott ur a tit and you know it

Steelrattty
Posted - 2009.03.22 02:00:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: monomatic
Originally by: Steelrattty
Originally by: monomatic
they are bad news .. end of discussion


This.


sod u scott ur a tit and you know it


C C C C !!!!!!

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.03.22 06:04:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Gamel
we pulled out mid week because some serious business in our 0.0 home, im sorry that we could not finish it


See why non-MC-structured sov holders are intentionally described as "mercs" by the mercenary community.

Originally by: Gamel
SuperMarine > i wasnt saying you were, i was saying we dont have your isk, and other corporations dont refund half finished contracts


Yes some other corporations dont refund half finished contracts. They're called contract-breakers.

Advice to OP: Put something in Crime and Punishment as well as it's more mercenary oriented.

Monti Reagan
Crimson Empire.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.03.22 07:17:00 - [19]
 

Avarice. never has been and never will be a mercenary alliance. We have never accepted any contracts or sought Merc work.

What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m? ish off a gentlemen seeking mercenaries. I told them this was unacceptable, as it could reflect poorly on our alliance name and the money should be returned. I sent Gamel a mail telling him he needed to contact me asap. When he contacted me I got a chance to speak with him, with the intention of returning the isk that was initially given to us. As the conversation progressed and he told me more about his situation, Steel and I took sympathy on him and rather then returning the initial isk declared war on the alliance in question with the intention of teaching them a lesson.

I got into the main system of the targets, which we had deduced through intelligence gathering since Gamel was unavailable to provide anything close to concrete regarding the mark and proceeded to bait them into fighting us. This fight resulted in us losing a couple of ships only killing one Ishtar. The week moved on and I involved more of the corporation, not the alliance itself, on the action and we camped the mark into their home base station which was (idiotically enough) a Gallente kickout station. After about 4-5 days of this, we became very bored and logging in was becoming a chore. So I told Super we would take one more week of the payment but be returning to PB by the weekend as we had just had a new corp join the alliance and felt it was important for them to be around their alliance mates, also people were dying more frequently in PB with both of the main alliance FCs in empire.

The war-dec terminated after one week as the fees for continuation were never paid. However, during our time with the dec against the alliance 3 of the 7 initial corps in the alliance left. I felt like it was a job well done, though our efficiency against them was atrociously low. I told Steel to deal with Gamel as I was kind of bored of listening to his insane ramblings, I guess Gamel felt cheated or something so he made this post.

Newsflash: we really don't care, Gamel. Steel and I both think you are kind of loose in the head, after some of the comments you made about wanting to track "the guy down" in real life even though you never explained what you meant by "the guy". Also, I'd tell you that you can probably drop this obsession with the alliance as they've pretty much imploded, probably with no small part of which being your constant hiring of mercs against them like some psychotic ex-girlfriend out for revenge but I doubt you'd listen.

As far as the spectators to this severely uninteresting drama, "calling Avarice out" or whatever I give you this message: we are scumbags. It doesn't bother us, sorry if it bothers you. We won't be losing out on any merc work, because we're not mercs.

Mono, you can keep crying about us as you border on fanboy status towards Steelrattty. Remember, we're watching you.

Nameless TCF pilot, we killed your freighter and then proceeded to have our spies impersonate your freighter pilot on OWN vent as he told them they were in serious s***. The tears from laughter we shed that night were delicious.

Posting in another Avarice thread,
Monti <3

S'totan
Minmatar
Impending Judgement
Scelus Sceleris.
Posted - 2009.03.22 11:24:00 - [20]
 

Poasting in an avarice thread =)

Ar'tee
DarkStar 1
Posted - 2009.03.22 11:47:00 - [21]
 

You know a CAOD thread is going to be great when..

..the first word of the OP is already spelled incorrectly.

monomatic
Minmatar
DEATH'S LEGION
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2009.03.22 13:05:00 - [22]
 

can someone please define the meaning of a troll for me please?

Steelrattty
Posted - 2009.03.22 16:41:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Monti Reagan
Avarice. never has been and never will be a mercenary alliance. We have never accepted any contracts or sought Merc work.

What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m? ish off a gentlemen seeking mercenaries. I told them this was unacceptable, as it could reflect poorly on our alliance name and the money should be returned. I sent Gamel a mail telling him he needed to contact me asap. When he contacted me I got a chance to speak with him, with the intention of returning the isk that was initially given to us. As the conversation progressed and he told me more about his situation, Steel and I took sympathy on him and rather then returning the initial isk declared war on the alliance in question with the intention of teaching them a lesson.

I got into the main system of the targets, which we had deduced through intelligence gathering since Gamel was unavailable to provide anything close to concrete regarding the mark and proceeded to bait them into fighting us. This fight resulted in us losing a couple of ships only killing one Ishtar. The week moved on and I involved more of the corporation, not the alliance itself, on the action and we camped the mark into their home base station which was (idiotically enough) a Gallente kickout station. After about 4-5 days of this, we became very bored and logging in was becoming a chore. So I told Super we would take one more week of the payment but be returning to PB by the weekend as we had just had a new corp join the alliance and felt it was important for them to be around their alliance mates, also people were dying more frequently in PB with both of the main alliance FCs in empire.

The war-dec terminated after one week as the fees for continuation were never paid. However, during our time with the dec against the alliance 3 of the 7 initial corps in the alliance left. I felt like it was a job well done, though our efficiency against them was atrociously low. I told Steel to deal with Gamel as I was kind of bored of listening to his insane ramblings, I guess Gamel felt cheated or something so he made this post.

Newsflash: we really don't care, Gamel. Steel and I both think you are kind of loose in the head, after some of the comments you made about wanting to track "the guy down" in real life even though you never explained what you meant by "the guy". Also, I'd tell you that you can probably drop this obsession with the alliance as they've pretty much imploded, probably with no small part of which being your constant hiring of mercs against them like some psychotic ex-girlfriend out for revenge but I doubt you'd listen.

As far as the spectators to this severely uninteresting drama, "calling Avarice out" or whatever I give you this message: we are scumbags. It doesn't bother us, sorry if it bothers you. We won't be losing out on any merc work, because we're not mercs.

Mono, you can keep crying about us as you border on fanboy status towards Steelrattty. Remember, we're watching you.

Nameless TCF pilot, we killed your freighter and then proceeded to have our spies impersonate your freighter pilot on OWN vent as he told them they were in serious s***. The tears from laughter we shed that night were delicious.

Posting in another Avarice thread,
Monti <3


Correction, It was another merc corps scam, and i scammed them into letting me scam Gamel. If i hadnt ... Gamel would not have even gotten 1 and a half weeks of merc's, rather no results at all.

Gamel
Posted - 2009.03.22 17:25:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Steelrattty
Originally by: Monti Reagan
Avarice. never has been and never will be a mercenary alliance. We have never accepted any contracts or sought Merc work.

What started out as a scam by one of my directors and a member ended up being something else entirely. I heard from Steelrattty, my 2nd in command that they had scammed something like 700m? ish off a gentlemen seeking mercenaries. I told them this was unacceptable, as it could reflect poorly on our alliance name and the money should be returned. I sent Gamel a mail telling him he needed to contact me asap. When he contacted me I got a chance to speak with him, with the intention of returning the isk that was initially given to us. As the conversation progressed and he told me more about his situation, Steel and I took sympathy on him and rather then returning the initial isk declared war on the alliance in question with the intention of teaching them a lesson.

I got into the main system of the targets, which we had deduced through intelligence gathering since Gamel was unavailable to provide anything close to concrete regarding the mark and proceeded to bait them into fighting us. This fight resulted in us losing a couple of ships only killing one Ishtar. The week moved on and I involved more of the corporation, not the alliance itself, on the action and we camped the mark into their home base station which was (idiotically enough) a Gallente kickout station. After about 4-5 days of this, we became very bored and logging in was becoming a chore. So I told Super we would take one more week of the payment but be returning to PB by the weekend as we had just had a new corp join the alliance and felt it was important for them to be around their alliance mates, also people were dying more frequently in PB with both of the main alliance FCs in empire.

The war-dec terminated after one week as the fees for continuation were never paid. However, during our time with the dec against the alliance 3 of the 7 initial corps in the alliance left. I felt like it was a job well done, though our efficiency against them was atrociously low. I told Steel to deal with Gamel as I was kind of bored of listening to his insane ramblings, I guess Gamel felt cheated or something so he made this post.

Newsflash: we really don't care, Gamel. Steel and I both think you are kind of loose in the head, after some of the comments you made about wanting to track "the guy down" in real life even though you never explained what you meant by "the guy". Also, I'd tell you that you can probably drop this obsession with the alliance as they've pretty much imploded, probably with no small part of which being your constant hiring of mercs against them like some psychotic ex-girlfriend out for revenge but I doubt you'd listen.

As far as the spectators to this severely uninteresting drama, "calling Avarice out" or whatever I give you this message: we are scumbags. It doesn't bother us, sorry if it bothers you. We won't be losing out on any merc work, because we're not mercs.

Mono, you can keep crying about us as you border on fanboy status towards Steelrattty. Remember, we're watching you.

Nameless TCF pilot, we killed your freighter and then proceeded to have our spies impersonate your freighter pilot on OWN vent as he told them they were in serious s***. The tears from laughter we shed that night were delicious.

Posting in another Avarice thread,
Monti <3


Correction, It was another merc corps scam, and i scammed them into letting me scam Gamel. If i hadnt ... Gamel would not have even gotten 1 and a half weeks of merc's, rather no results at all.


so this is you guys admitting that you do not honor you contracts and scam people that is all that needed to be said.

Requiescat
Red Arsenal
Posted - 2009.03.22 19:39:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: S'totan
Poasting in an avarice thread =)

Saint Shadow
ME RAT OR FAMILY DIE
Posted - 2009.03.22 21:28:00 - [26]
 

Firstly, and most importantly, I would like to offer my sincere apologies to Gamel for this situation. Those of us who were active with this contract were told that you were satisfied with our performance and that you had considered our obligation had been met. It's no wonder Steel didn't want this made public as it has only agitated tense relations between my pvp wing that operates deeper within nullsec and the wing Steel handles closer/within highsec operations to an even higher level. As a result those pilots who are loyal to xcenon and myself have removed our rolls(after moving our assets) and will be reforming under the flag of the OWN alliance. One of the conditions of us joining was that we be able to accept contracts(though the council does have veto power). I'd like to offer our services to you for half of what you paid to Steel(a sum we didn't see a single isk of) to help you with your situation as well as helping us gain some legitimacy as contract fufillers. Contact me ingame, I hope we can come to an agreement.


To Steel: this has been a long time coming. You have hoarded loot for months now. Your greed we could handle, you taking away our reputation we cannot.

Steelrattty
Posted - 2009.03.22 23:03:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Saint Shadow
Firstly, and most importantly, I would like to offer my sincere apologies to Gamel for this situation. Those of us who were active with this contract were told that you were satisfied with our performance and that you had considered our obligation had been met. It's no wonder Steel didn't want this made public as it has only agitated tense relations between my pvp wing that operates deeper within nullsec and the wing Steel handles closer/within highsec operations to an even higher level. As a result those pilots who are loyal to xcenon and myself have removed our rolls(after moving our assets) and will be reforming under the flag of the OWN alliance. One of the conditions of us joining was that we be able to accept contracts(though the council does have veto power). I'd like to offer our services to you for half of what you paid to Steel(a sum we didn't see a single isk of) to help you with your situation as well as helping us gain some legitimacy as contract fufillers. Contact me ingame, I hope we can come to an agreement.


To Steel: this has been a long time coming. You have hoarded loot for months now. Your greed we could handle, you taking away our reputation we cannot.


I too will be splitting from the Avarice. name, i have had enough of loot hoarding and scamming in this alliance, it is no longer profitable. I am going to take my PVP wing and fly under The Council.'s flag, being a renter is very appealing to me.

Fly safe, Avarice.
Steelratty

Monti Reagan
Crimson Empire.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.03.22 23:09:00 - [28]
 

Is DEFI4NT recruiting?

LOPEZ
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2009.03.23 02:06:00 - [29]
 

so.... Avarice owns 0.0 space?

that's news to... everyone in eve.

Vasponger
legio immortalorum
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.23 02:09:00 - [30]
 

Darkness Rising 2.0

new name, same fail


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