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Kirzath
Genos Occidere
Posted - 2009.03.10 17:25:00 - [1]
 

..Where's the starting point?

Zijiruu
Amarr
Hall Of Flame
Posted - 2009.03.10 17:47:00 - [2]
 

i would also like to know, i went to the old tutorial agent, which gave me nothing

Droog 1
Posted - 2009.03.10 17:59:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Droog 1 on 10/03/2009 18:00:12
Not sure if this is relevant but there is a know issue:

Epic Missions: Dal Segno Al Fine: Davan is not being given by the agent in the Amarr and Caldari versions

Workaround - Submit a petitition under "Agent Missions in Progress" and a GM will resolve the issue

Taken from Apoc Known Issues


Tarn Reis
Posted - 2009.03.10 18:48:00 - [4]
 

I've been hearing of an Epic Sisters of Eve agent in Arnon, perhaps you should have a look over there.

Zee Boss
Posted - 2009.03.10 18:53:00 - [5]
 

I would like to not have to travel across space to run these missions and was hoping for epic missions in caldari space, I found some info about some people not getting missions but that does not say where to look to begin with.


/me

Ace2001
Caldari
S E A R
Posted - 2009.03.10 19:21:00 - [6]
 

I asked in the newbie help channel on my alt, and was told by the helper dudes there that it's a Sister in Arnon. Even though I specifically asked for a Caldari agent/an agent in Caldari space. So it's starting to sound like that may be the only agent for it. :/

Zijiruu
Amarr
Hall Of Flame
Posted - 2009.03.10 19:44:00 - [7]
 

there is no epic kind of agent in arnon

do you have to do the career funnel thing on the help screen ?

Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.10 20:16:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Terminus Vindictus on 10/03/2009 20:17:30

The only epic mission currently in the game is the one from Sisters of Eve in Arnon. There are no other epic missions right now as far as we've been told. CCP has already said this many times. They simply ran out of time to implement additional epic mission content prior to this massive release. This one mission is meant to give us a taste of what's to come, and they set it up in neutral territory so everyone can access it.

Linkage

Kyanzes
Amarr
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2009.03.10 20:35:00 - [9]
 

Yeah, they never seem to find the time to fiddle with missions.

Stanzi
Posted - 2009.03.10 22:16:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Zee Boss
I would like to not have to travel across space to run these missions and was hoping for epic missions in caldari space


Oh yes that sounds terribly epic: "I'd like an epic mission on my doorstep please, no traveling thanks". The point was to get you to travel across the four empire regions, in an, oh what's the word, epic, fashion.

Soulspatch
Posted - 2009.03.11 04:54:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Edited by: Terminus Vindictus on 10/03/2009 20:17:30

The only epic mission currently in the game is the one from Sisters of Eve in Arnon. There are no other epic missions right now as far as we've been told. CCP has already said this many times. They simply ran out of time to implement additional epic mission content prior to this massive release. This one mission is meant to give us a taste of what's to come, and they set it up in neutral territory so everyone can access it.

Linkage


Yet again CCP over look the PvE players infavour of more PvP style play. I pay my account $$$ just like the PvP players, I would like some new content like the PvP players get. CCP promised PvE would get a work over a long time ago, we were told new missions could be and would added and that they could be added during a D/T as a patch and to "keep our eyes open", then they gave us stupid half ass missions (Alluring Emination...etc) that have done not but add to the pile of partitions for their removal because they were so bad. Then they (CCP) played up the grand new "mission arks" and promissed their release for the PvE community in the just released suppliment.

Now the PvE community has just been told that once again CCP did not have time or resourses for them. But to keep us happy they gave us ONE new mission ark that everyone can share if they are willing to spend the time flying across the EVE universe to get to.

So we have one new mission ark to tease the PvE community about what they have missed out on and no date on when the long awaited and promissed new missions will be release for the PvE community.

CCP, thats really sad.


Kulmid
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.11 05:34:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Kulmid on 11/03/2009 05:35:57
Originally by: Soulspatch
Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Edited by: Terminus Vindictus on 10/03/2009 20:17:30

The only epic mission currently in the game is the one from Sisters of Eve in Arnon. There are no other epic missions right now as far as we've been told. CCP has already said this many times. They simply ran out of time to implement additional epic mission content prior to this massive release. This one mission is meant to give us a taste of what's to come, and they set it up in neutral territory so everyone can access it.

Linkage


Yet again CCP over look the PvE players infavour of more PvP style play. I pay my account $$$ just like the PvP players, I would like some new content like the PvP players get. CCP promised PvE would get a work over a long time ago, we were told new missions could be and would added and that they could be added during a D/T as a patch and to "keep our eyes open", then they gave us stupid half ass missions (Alluring Emination...etc) that have done not but add to the pile of partitions for their removal because they were so bad. Then they (CCP) played up the grand new "mission arks" and promissed their release for the PvE community in the just released suppliment.

Now the PvE community has just been told that once again CCP did not have time or resourses for them. But to keep us happy they gave us ONE new mission ark that everyone can share if they are willing to spend the time flying across the EVE universe to get to.

So we have one new mission ark to tease the PvE community about what they have missed out on and no date on when the long awaited and promissed new missions will be release for the PvE community.

CCP, thats really sad.




Now post again without ignoring wormholes and Sleepers. Sleepers are NPCs you know. Which makes fighting them PvE.

Edit: Also, please remind me what it is that players that prefer a PvP style of play gained from this patch.

Nem Myni
Imperium Forces
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2009.03.11 05:40:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Soulspatch
Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Edited by: Terminus Vindictus on 10/03/2009 20:17:30

The only epic mission currently in the game is the one from Sisters of Eve in Arnon. There are no other epic missions right now as far as we've been told. CCP has already said this many times. They simply ran out of time to implement additional epic mission content prior to this massive release. This one mission is meant to give us a taste of what's to come, and they set it up in neutral territory so everyone can access it.

Linkage


Yet again CCP over look the PvE players infavour of more PvP style play. I pay my account $$$ just like the PvP players, I would like some new content like the PvP players get. CCP promised PvE would get a work over a long time ago, we were told new missions could be and would added and that they could be added during a D/T as a patch and to "keep our eyes open", then they gave us stupid half ass missions (Alluring Emination...etc) that have done not but add to the pile of partitions for their removal because they were so bad. Then they (CCP) played up the grand new "mission arks" and promissed their release for the PvE community in the just released suppliment.

Now the PvE community has just been told that once again CCP did not have time or resourses for them. But to keep us happy they gave us ONE new mission ark that everyone can share if they are willing to spend the time flying across the EVE universe to get to.

So we have one new mission ark to tease the PvE community about what they have missed out on and no date on when the long awaited and promissed new missions will be release for the PvE community.

CCP, thats really sad.




Run to your mommy and cry out there, we don't care!

CCP just implemented a massive update, with these awesome wormholes. I for one am very happy with this new content.

Oh btw fighting npc sleepers isnt pve huh?

Letava
Gallente
Scions of Mars
Excuses.
Posted - 2009.03.11 06:22:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Nem Myni

Oh btw fighting npc sleepers isnt pve huh?


General attitude seems to be that if you can't do it with no risk, it's not worth doing.

Soulspatch
Posted - 2009.03.11 06:48:00 - [15]
 

Ratting is not PvE, it is ratting. Mission running is PvE, just for you empty headed trolling PvP players who do not know the dif. Worm wholes are a PvP environment, 0.0, no local, no missions. Sounds just just like a PvE paradise does it not?


Soulspatch
Posted - 2009.03.11 06:54:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Letava
General attitude seems to be that if you can't do it with no risk, it's not worth doing.


Where does risk come into this discussion??? All the PvE players I know would not say they do not want risk. We want risk, but inherent within the mission, not from PvP. And Yes, I do rat in 0.0 and I also PvP in 0.0. This thread is about PvE.

Zzelle
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.11 07:03:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Soulspatch
Ratting is not PvE, it is ratting. Mission running is PvE, just for you empty headed trolling PvP players who do not know the dif.



Out of curiosity, how is shooting NPC ships in belts not "Player vs Environment" content?


Soulspatch
Posted - 2009.03.11 07:20:00 - [18]
 

Generally it has been my experience that when refering to PvE as opposed to PvP that PvE is refering to mission runners. I guess PvE is a bad use of terms and mission runners should be used.

Zarda Sulan
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 09:55:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Zarda Sulan on 11/03/2009 09:55:03
they want MISSIONS (storyline arcs) not jsut mind numbing grinding in wormholes- what dont you understand about epic mission arcs?
Majority of the pvp players in this game are dense

Jeremy Samson
Posted - 2009.03.11 10:53:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Zarda Sulan
Edited by: Zarda Sulan on 11/03/2009 09:55:03
they want MISSIONS (storyline arcs) not jsut mind numbing grinding in wormholes- what dont you understand about epic mission arcs?
Majority of the pvp players in this game are dense



I am sure you meant PVE players, right? Cool

Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 15:30:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Soulspatch
Generally it has been my experience that when refering to PvE as opposed to PvP that PvE is refering to mission runners. I guess PvE is a bad use of terms and mission runners should be used.


PvE by definition is everything that's not PvP. Missions, ratting, plexing, exploration, manufacturing, trade, invention, wormholes, etc. etc. are ALL PvE. PvP is the limited definition, and it only applies when engaging other players directly in combat (piracy, wardecs, gate camping, suiciding, etc.).

Misaki Yuuko
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 15:42:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Soulspatch
I'm a carebear and I'm afraid of new pve content, aka WH. By my definition, pve is only missions in hisec where I'm well protected by concord and no one can interfere in my sandbox, off course explroation huge boost, sleepers and all that, is not pve by my definition


There is the TL;DR version of that horrible post.

Misaki Yuuko
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 15:48:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
Originally by: Soulspatch
Generally it has been my experience that when refering to PvE as opposed to PvP that PvE is refering to mission runners. I guess PvE is a bad use of terms and mission runners should be used.


PvE by definition is everything that's not PvP. Missions, ratting, plexing, exploration, manufacturing, trade, invention, wormholes, etc. etc. are ALL PvE. PvP is the limited definition, and it only applies when engaging other players directly in combat (piracy, wardecs, gate camping, suiciding, etc.).


You're wrong, PvP = player versus player (not only player killing), PvE = player versus enviorenment; and that's about the estrict definition. Thus: manufaturing, trade, invention, wormholes and even plexing or ratting (to a point, on lowsec or nullsec) all involve player versus player competition (limited resources and not instanced playing, means there is competition and someone else can affect your activities either diretlly or indirectlly).


Pwett
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
Posted - 2009.03.11 15:50:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Terminus Vindictus
...
manufacturing,
trade,
invention

Sorry, but these are VERY PVP.

I can make / lose more isk in one good / bad trade to another player than you can destroy ships in your entire EVE career.

Kulmid
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.11 17:07:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Soulspatch
Generally it has been my experience that when refering to PvE as opposed to PvP that PvE is refering to mission runners. I guess PvE is a bad use of terms and mission runners should be used.


Then you are playing the wrong game. This is a PvP game.

Originally by: Soulspatch
Where does risk come into this discussion??? All the PvE players I know would not say they do not want risk. We want risk, but inherent within the mission, not from PvP. And Yes, I do rat in 0.0 and I also PvP in 0.0. This thread is about PvE.


I'm still missing what it is that we "PvPers" by your definition of the work, that is, those who blow other people up, got from this patch.

Shar Tegral
Posted - 2009.03.11 17:18:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Kulmid
I'm still missing what it is that we "PvPers" by your definition of the work, that is, those who blow other people up, got from this patch.

Delayed local in w-space.

And I'm loving it.

Terminus Vindictus
Caldari
Posted - 2009.03.11 17:30:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Misaki Yuuko

You're wrong, PvP = player versus player (not only player killing), PvE = player versus enviorenment; and that's about the estrict definition. Thus: manufaturing, trade, invention, wormholes and even plexing or ratting (to a point, on lowsec or nullsec) all involve player versus player competition (limited resources and not instanced playing, means there is competition and someone else can affect your activities either diretlly or indirectlly).



By that loose definition, EVERYTHING is PvP since EVERYTHING is affected by other players, including missions. It seems to me you're making a claim of convenience so you can win your argument, and not one of logic.

Traska Gannel
Posted - 2009.03.11 18:28:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Kulmid


Originally by: Soulspatch
Where does risk come into this discussion??? All the PvE players I know would not say they do not want risk. We want risk, but inherent within the mission, not from PvP. And Yes, I do rat in 0.0 and I also PvP in 0.0. This thread is about PvE.


I'm still missing what it is that we "PvPers" by your definition of the work, that is, those who blow other people up, got from this patch.



Wow - I would have thought this would be obvious.

PVPers got a huge new chunk of 0.0 space directly accessible from high, low and 0.0 security with enough rewards to tempt players in, no fixed gates so no fixed gate camps, delayed local channel so you are only visible if you say something or get scanned and no sovereignty. The number of potential targets for roving PVP gangs and soloists has gone up - though so has the risk. Just imagine the potential fleet fights if an Alliance puts in a POS for harvesting W-space resources. Also, what about the possibilities of using W-space as a backdoor for small fleets into Alliance territories. Nevermind the number of carebears who might test the waters from high sec :) ... there are lots of cool items in this expansion but I would have to say that PVPers probably benefited the most since the expansion significantly increases the opportunities for PVP interaction.

Swearte Widfarend
Gallente
Aurora Security
Posted - 2009.03.11 18:45:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Traska Gannel
Nevermind the number of carebears who might test the waters from high sec :)

Carebear who probably fits that definition chiming in. I like the idea that w-space may be less "occupied" than lowsec/0.0 in the existing universe. Sure I'll probably get blown to bits many, many times. But I'm going to at least go looking.

Also, Tech3 stuff won't be very available if the only folks going to w-space are blowing each other up...


 

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