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Deo Three
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.10 23:15:00 - [301]
 


Stalax
Posted - 2009.03.11 00:27:00 - [302]
 

I support this product and/or service.

g0th
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.11 02:14:00 - [303]
 

signed, supported!

Mildeliane
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.11 03:27:00 - [304]
 

yep

Visakoth
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.11 04:49:00 - [305]
 


Nimathos
Gallente
Swarm Of Locusts
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.03.11 07:31:00 - [306]
 

If the forum is part of the game, then why is it not a function or application inside the game? besides browsing to it with the internet browser, which makes connection to the world outside eve, thus also unrealistic.

Zxxs Trxyzptlk
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.11 09:30:00 - [307]
 


Bronzino
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.11 12:51:00 - [308]
 


Julius Lincinius
Minmatar
Ex Coelis
The Bantam Menace
Posted - 2009.03.11 13:58:00 - [309]
 

CSM candidates should have some purview over forum moderation. They are supposed to be looking out for the players. Some of us just play forum games... Not allowing them oversight is a bit disheartening that the initial CSM concept has been retooled so much by CCP that it is now only a shadow of its original intent.

Abulurd Boniface
Gallente
Legio Geminatus
Posted - 2009.03.11 14:21:00 - [310]
 

Originally by: ThorTheGreat
Why should the forums be treated any different than any other aspect of Eve? What about the forums is so magical that they should be able to operate with immunity? This is stupid.

Discuss.


What you are saying is that the forum will merely end up being an extension of Goonswarm's policies and serve as a political tool to achieve its goals.

I see what you did there. Somebody has been reading the CIA manuals.

We cannot give you that power, although you will seek it by other means.

Abulurd Boniface
ME ME
CEO

Doxxan
Caldari
Defcon One
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2009.03.11 21:11:00 - [311]
 


Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.12 12:35:00 - [312]
 

I DON'T TRUST THE FORUM MODS.

Because there is strong evidence certain mods are biased. All we want is accountability for serious moderation, like when someone is banned for something others aren't in the same thread, then you know favoritism exists!

Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.12 12:36:00 - [313]
 

supported

Ivoryman
Silent Service Operations
Posted - 2009.03.12 13:27:00 - [314]
 

No. This opens the forums to be used and abused for player driven agenda's. I for one would not want other 'paying subscribers' dictating what I can/can not do on the forums, which is essentially what you are suggesting.

Ivory

Soldis
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe

Posted - 2009.03.12 21:25:00 - [315]
 

It seems the few people who are against this issue don't understand it at all. No one is asking for control, just a reason when someone is banned, in the least.

Aloriana Jacques
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute

Posted - 2009.03.13 00:18:00 - [316]
 

*signs graciously*

Here on the forums is where the mass majority of the EVE game community participates in discussions about the game, what's going on in game, and various in game actions (buying, selling, trading, asking for help, discussing future changes to the game, etc.) Community is the operative word. If the CSM are meant to represent the community, than they should be able to bring up how CCP can make a better game, as well as improve relations with the community, and that happens on these forums.


Ivoryman
Silent Service Operations
Posted - 2009.03.13 15:07:00 - [317]
 

Quote:
It seems the few people who are against this issue don't understand it at all. No one is asking for control, just a reason when someone is banned, in the least.


Please re-read the original post and what it is asking the vote to be about. Also look up the definition of purview.

Getting a stated reason why someone has been banned should be a complete different issue.

Ivory

Yarik Mendel
Amarr
Red Horizon Inc
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.13 15:42:00 - [318]
 

Originally by: Ivoryman
Quote:
It seems the few people who are against this issue don't understand it at all. No one is asking for control, just a reason when someone is banned, in the least.


Please re-read the original post and what it is asking the vote to be about. Also look up the definition of purview.


In the context of the OP, purview means means oversight, not control.


NereSky
Gallente
RETRIBUTIONS.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2009.03.13 15:52:00 - [319]
 

Originally by: Yarik Mendel
Originally by: Ivoryman
Quote:
It seems the few people who are against this issue don't understand it at all. No one is asking for control, just a reason when someone is banned, in the least.


Please re-read the original post and what it is asking the vote to be about. Also look up the definition of purview.


In the context of the OP, purview means means oversight, not control.




well every organisation govermental or otherwise that has a oversight committee has control

fuze
Gallente
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2009.03.13 15:59:00 - [320]
 

This the goon conga line?

OP has a point but forums isn't exclusively in game or out game. It has eg the out of pod forums as well the corp recruitment forums. The parts that are relevant to the in game real of New Eden automatically are covered by CSM anyway.
CSM at least should be able to comment on this privately and publicly without getting moderated.
(Besides mods shouldn't be allowed to play Eve to avoid any bias.)

I don't think this will change anything since your avg paranoia will continue to scream bias anyway. CSM oversight still will be very limited even then.

Space Dolemite
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.03.14 00:33:00 - [321]
 

yo I just be seein dis **** an I'd like to be voicin my suppot aight

one love~

Junkie Beverage
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.03.14 17:11:00 - [322]
 

+

Jimer Lins
Gallente
Aliastra

Posted - 2009.03.16 17:08:00 - [323]
 

Forums used to be moderated by players (CRC), answerable to CCP. The player volunteer mods could only moderate, not ban, in response to the CSM's concern back on page 2.

I always thought the decision to eliminate the player moderation team was a poor one that has contributed significantly to the decline in the quality of the forums.

So, supported for some form of oversight by players. Mods need to be answerable in some form to the people who use the forums.

Jernau Gurgeh
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2009.03.16 17:24:00 - [324]
 

The CSM should be able to advise on forum policy, but not specific cases

Lord Matrix
Flying Banana Squad

Posted - 2009.03.16 19:33:00 - [325]
 

I support this.


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