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JeanPaul Sartre
Amarr
THE INTERNET.
Goodfellas.
Posted - 2009.02.13 16:49:00 - [31]
 

snipe!

Ryoken McKeon
Caldari
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Eradication Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.13 16:58:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Flashh Gorden

Thats great testiment to what can be achieved by diplomacy a sometimes forgotten art in EVE.



I've never really heard PvE'er NAP-festing described in such a positive light before. I'm pretty sure everybody already knew that allying with 90% of EVE against 10% of EVE would result in that 90% of EVE being able to hold it's space.


Romulus Silvia
Amarr
Igneus Auctorita
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2009.02.13 16:59:00 - [33]
 

I mean, maybe skunk-works should talk to atlas about becoming future pets. I hear they're taking space.

Shadowsword
Gallente
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:02:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: Shadowsword on 13/02/2009 17:02:19
Originally by: Diehard Si
If they do fall though, its just AAA left preventing Eve from basically becoming dead and a NAP land.



Only fools thinks that.

Lots of alliances among the anti-kenny coalition know perfectly well that alliances that don't fight end up losing their ability to actually fight, and then die.

Even if Kenny die (they won't, but let's assume they will for the sake of argument), there's still Barbie, and neutrals, and if there's not enough neutrals more can be made easily enough...

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:02:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
Originally by: Flashh Gorden

Thats great testiment to what can be achieved by diplomacy a sometimes forgotten art in EVE.



I've never really heard PvE'er NAP-festing described in such a positive light before. I'm pretty sure everybody already knew that allying with 90% of EVE against 10% of EVE would result in that 90% of EVE being able to hold it's space.




This is the worst talking point spun by Kenny. They outnumbered us for a large chunk of yesterday and we still 0wned them.

In total Kenny have equal or MORE alliances backing them up then we do at this point.


C4w3
Minmatar
Corp 1 Allstars
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:16:00 - [36]
 

T H E G A M E I S L O S T TO Y O U ! Twisted Evil

It was all planned on the BBQ 04 JumpgateEvol comming out in 40 days Beta testing in progress.... Ex BoB removing assets.... It was all planned i say.

PLANNED! Razz

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:18:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
I've never really heard PvE'er NAP-festing described in such a positive light before. I'm pretty sure everybody already knew that allying with 90% of EVE against 10% of EVE would result in that 90% of EVE being able to hold it's space.


these numbers you have pulled out of you're posterior, are completely accurate

Cletus Graeme
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:26:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Prez21
Course we matter were still the best pvp alliance pound for pound ingame you homo alt, you suck!


Ever heard of PL?

TWD
Minmatar
Evolution
KenZoku
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:30:00 - [39]
 

In the top 15 ranking alliances on eve-maps, 1 is friendly to us. Majority of the alliances in that top 15 are attacking us right now. The number of alliances on each side may not differ much, the amount of pilots certainly do.

Why do you not just admit that, what's wrong with it?

We chose to play this way a long time ago, and we could because the infastructure in Delve gave us good advantages. With most of those advantages gone it's obviously alot harder now.

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:34:00 - [40]
 

I hear eve-maps is the one-stop website for judging the military strength of alliances

Morris Falter
Caldari
The Collective
B O R G
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:34:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
I've never really heard PvE'er NAP-festing described in such a positive light before. I'm pretty sure everybody already knew that allying with 90% of EVE against 10% of EVE would result in that 90% of EVE being able to hold it's space.


these numbers you have pulled out of you're posterior, are completely accurate


your


Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:35:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Morris Falter
Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
I've never really heard PvE'er NAP-festing described in such a positive light before. I'm pretty sure everybody already knew that allying with 90% of EVE against 10% of EVE would result in that 90% of EVE being able to hold it's space.


these numbers you have pulled out of you're posterior, are completely accurate


your




ye gods your right, a grammatical error I have made EmbarassedEmbarassed

Orange Faeces
Minmatar
The Atomik Izlamiks
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:41:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
ye gods your right, a grammatical error I have made EmbarassedEmbarassed


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instaban!

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2009.02.13 17:43:00 - [44]
 

whatever I've never even seen a starwars movie

Zitts
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 18:51:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: TWD
In the top 15 ranking alliances on eve-maps, 1 is friendly to us. Majority of the alliances in that top 15 are attacking us right now. The number of alliances on each side may not differ much, the amount of pilots certainly do.

Why do you not just admit that, what's wrong with it?

We chose to play this way a long time ago, and we could because the infrastructure in Delve gave us good advantages. With most of those advantages gone it's obviously a lot harder now.


This seems reasonable I guess I can agree. But you did have a numbers advantage early yesterday before the grape day. If you put the cap kills aside and only count the huge 900 man fight, you really got outplayed. That's how it looked for me at least although I admit for the first hour or two it wasn't clear who would be the victor.

Either way I had a lot of fun and I actually do kinda respect you guys for trying despite how bad you were losing.

Lumen Atra
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 19:05:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: TWD
In the top 15 ranking alliances on eve-maps, 1 is friendly to us. Majority of the alliances in that top 15 are attacking us right now. The number of alliances on each side may not differ much, the amount of pilots certainly do.

Why do you not just admit that, what's wrong with it?

We chose to play this way a long time ago, and we could because the infastructure in Delve gave us good advantages. With most of those advantages gone it's obviously alot harder now.


Uh, because you and your pets field just as many pilots - what does it matter where they are ranked, so long as they have an income and semi-competent fleets. Surely you're not suggesting that the amount of space, etc an alliance holds determines how good they are?

Also, looking at the recent fights in delve - you have about 2 to 3 times more alliances on your side, if you want to get all nitpicky about it.

I don't really get why people think the number of alliances or amount of space matters when both sides bring it.

And people saying 90% of eve vs the other 10% is pretty laughable - again, amount of space isn't a determining factor, and if you want to get to it, it's probably 60/40, not 90/10.

Petar Quaresma
Caldari
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.02.13 19:21:00 - [47]
 

I like how people make this thread as some call-to-arms. As if anyone will come en masse to save the tools in Kenny and then AAA.

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 19:59:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: TWD
In the top 15 ranking alliances on eve-maps, 1 is friendly to us. Majority of the alliances in that top 15 are attacking us right now. The number of alliances on each side may not differ much, the amount of pilots certainly do.

Why do you not just admit that, what's wrong with it?

We chose to play this way a long time ago, and we could because the infastructure in Delve gave us good advantages. With most of those advantages gone it's obviously alot harder now.


I to can read EvE maps! Really though the space owned is irrelevant to the discussion. You have just as many pilots and more alliances on your side than we do. Here's a number break down of JUST the top 20 alliances by pilots.

The Good guys:

Goonswarm: 20 stations, 5298 pilots
Morsus Mihi: 12 Stations, 2764 pilots.
Razor:12 outposts, 1960 pilots.
TCF: 22 outposts, 1572 pilots.
ED: 6 outposts, 1507 pilots

Total: 72 outposts, 13,101 pilots.

Kenny and Barbie:

KenGoku: 25 outposts(lol), 3453 pilots.
AAA: 25 outposts, 2040 pilots
EXE: 3 outposts, 1829 pilots.
SCA: 0 outposts, 1246 pilots.
Axiom Empire: 1 outpost, 1244 pilots.
Atlas: 0 outposts, 1118 pilots.

Total: 54 outposts, 10,930 pilots.

Notice how the Good Guys own their own space, this shows that we are a group of like minded allies who love and appreciate each others man company and bro fists ;). On the other hand the Ken and Barbie power bloc have two super powers(Ken, and AAA) who keep a firm boot on the neck of their pets(not giving them space, bossing them around) and and force them into ******ed red pen ops which degenerate into massive WELPS for their side.


Smith
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:04:00 - [49]
 

I got no idea what Im gonna do after BOB/Kenny is gone from EVE.

Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:29:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 13/02/2009 20:34:05
Originally by: TWD

We chose to play this way a long time ago, and we could because the infastructure in Delve gave us good advantages. With most of those advantages gone it's obviously alot harder now.


You chose to play like garbage and lie about it a long time ago?

And you have superior numbers than us at the beginning of this invasion and still lost. You may very well lave greater numbers over the weekend. You will still lose. And the beginning of every battle you have greater numbers than is but you lose ships faster so you wind up outnumbered. Because. You. Suck.

And your also saying that Delve had an invincible setup? Very Happy

Btw Jake Nooble keeps saying you have no interest ing the game but here you are popping up all over the place making comments, so your still paying your account charge. Heavens forbid you are actually playing, just too ashamed to show your face.

Ahistaja
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:47:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Smith
I got no idea what Im gonna do after BOB/Kenny is gone from EVE.


well, you could do something more constructive with your time, like take up gardening or baking. i enjoy baking, especially muffins

i like blueberry muffins best. and so does MY GIRLFRIEND who makes a lovely omelet to go with them. Smile

TWD
Minmatar
Evolution
KenZoku
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:51:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Himo Amasacia
Because. You. Suck.

Btw Jake Nooble keeps saying you have no interest ing the game but here you are popping up all over the place making comments, so your still paying your account charge. Heavens forbid you are actually playing, just too ashamed to show your face.


Maybe I might just play again to learn from the elite PvPers in Goonswarm and hopefully one day unsuck

The Mittani
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:54:00 - [53]
 

man remember the days when you could have the devs like you because you were a big homeworld player and they based this mmo off homeworld?

man, that rocked

these days homeworld pros don't get the respect they deserve :((((

Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:57:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: TWD
In the top 15 ranking alliances on eve-maps, 1 is friendly to us. Majority of the alliances in that top 15 are attacking us right now. The number of alliances on each side may not differ much, the amount of pilots certainly do.

Why do you not just admit that, what's wrong with it?

We chose to play this way a long time ago, and we could because the infastructure in Delve gave us good advantages. With most of those advantages gone it's obviously alot harder now.


Perhaps your pets aren't on top of that list because you've treated them like ****.

Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.13 21:02:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: TWD

Maybe I might just play again to learn from the elite PvPers in Goonswarm and hopefully one day unsuck


Well considering that KENNY still base their ship setups on your ideas, and Kennys ship setups suck eggs (what would the logical conclusion to those criteria be I wonder?), logically a change would be good, eh?

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.02.13 21:02:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Montasque

Notice how the Good Guys own their own space, this shows that we are a group of like minded allies who love and appreciate each others man company and bro fists ;). On the other hand the Ken and Barbie power bloc have two super powers(Ken, and AAA) who keep a firm boot on the neck of their pets(not giving them space, bossing them around) and and force them into ******ed red pen ops which degenerate into massive WELPS for their side.




Just leaving off the people on your side who don't own any space certainly helps to make your point.
Well done.

Ain't statistics great?

Tiger's Spirit
Caldari
Troll Hunters INC.
Posted - 2009.02.13 21:04:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Mr Rive

GUYS WERE FIGHTING FOR E-HONOUR HERE, IF WE LOSE, THE GAME WILL BE DESTROYED


Signed,
Kill those Keny bastardos :D

We want to safe EVE from Kenny market.

Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.13 21:11:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Avon


Just leaving off the people on your side who don't own any space certainly helps to make your point.
Well done.

Ain't statistics great?


What are you talking about? We included goonswarm!

Want to actually name the other people who don't own space? or is that too complicated for a "you know who they are" answer?

Palmer Eldritch
Gallente
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 21:24:00 - [59]
 

Kenny won't let their allies own their own space??

Montasque
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.13 21:47:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Montasque on 13/02/2009 21:49:30
Edited by: Montasque on 13/02/2009 21:47:57
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Montasque

Notice how the Good Guys own their own space, this shows that we are a group of like minded allies who love and appreciate each others man company and bro fists ;). On the other hand the Ken and Barbie power bloc have two super powers(Ken, and AAA) who keep a firm boot on the neck of their pets(not giving them space, bossing them around) and and force them into ******ed red pen ops which degenerate into massive WELPS for their side.




Just leaving off the people on your side who don't own any space certainly helps to make your point.
Well done.

Ain't statistics great?


It appears reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I only listed THE TOP 20 ALLIANCES BY PILOTS, then broke them down by the numbers of outposts, then pilots, and divided them by their bloc affiliation. The top 20 alliance is a good sample imo since it shows that even the large alliances in the former GBC lacked a proper outpost/pilot ratio, and that they were treated like peons and organized in a feudal system by their Kenny overlords.

And to members of the GBC please dont give me that NO STATIONS MEANS NO CHAINS bs! We all know that you got threatened with the boot if you did not show up to yesterdays CTA. Being an ally is a choice, it's not forced.



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