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Commanderess
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:24:00 - [1]
 

What if CCP were to create random characters, spawn some ISK on them, and buy PLEX/GTC off the open market?

Could potentially be one of the most profitable things a company has ever done. Sell you Game Time, then buy that Game Time back with something that has no value and they can create from nothing.

Discuss.

Riceball Wingding
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:26:00 - [2]
 



Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked


Karrade Krise
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:26:00 - [3]
 

CCP: "All your plex are belong to us."

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:28:00 - [4]
 

I am ok. Tehy maek more monii and habe monii to make Eve bettar. Smile

Alle is gut for alle.


mcnuggetlol
Amarr
Via Crucis Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:29:00 - [5]
 

CCP = US government = New World Order = Illuminati = ALIENS??!??!!?

I'll let YOU DECIDE

Gierling
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:29:00 - [6]
 

Would cause Inflation relatively quickly, you'd be able to tell pretty quickly.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Agrigan
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:32:00 - [7]
 

Perhaps it's already inflated?

Butch Granite
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:32:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Butch Granite on 12/02/2009 20:33:20
You bring up a very good point there commanderess.

The problem here is they have created a way for Real money to exist as an in game item for an indefinite amount of time, which they can then buy using generated in game money by the company.

while the plex system is good this would be a way for ccp to make insane amounts of money. However with all that isk coming into the market form nowhere, the amrket would crumble

5pinDizzy
Amarr
Pillow Fighters Inc
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:32:00 - [9]
 

Best tinfoil hat conspiracy theory I've heard in a very long time though.

Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:32:00 - [10]
 

Fatal flaw: game time is itself effectively created from nothing and goes away when used so doing this would be redundant.

This is of course assuming the $$ supply is constant, which seems fair since most GTCs are sold for isk anyway. Seller doesnt really care how much time he gets, as long as its the going rate.

Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:32:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Ki Tarra on 12/02/2009 20:34:11
CCP would need to expend significant resources to find a proper price level for a PLEX token, and continue to adjust that price scheme to match changes in supply and demand pressures caused by factors both internal and external to the game: if they offer too much ISK for a PLEX, then they won't sell as many. If they offer too low of a price people won't trade them.

...or CCP could take the lazy approach and let the players self regulate the PLEX token pricing.

When the easiest and laziest approach is also the most cost effective, it is pretty obvious what the choice would be.

Butch Granite
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:36:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Del Narveux
Fatal flaw: game time is itself effectively created from nothing and goes away when used so doing this would be redundant.

This is of course assuming the $$ supply is constant, which seems fair since most GTCs are sold for isk anyway. Seller doesnt really care how much time he gets, as long as its the going rate.


ccp would not use the game time. they would keep it and therefore the people who would have baught it, would have to give ccp more money for game time.

Originally by: Ki Tarra
Edited by: Ki Tarra on 12/02/2009 20:34:11
CCP would need to expend significant resources to find a proper price level for a PLEX token, and continue to adjust that price scheme to match changes in supply and demand pressures caused by factors both internal and external to the game: if they offer too much ISK for a PLEX, then they won't sell as many. If they offer too low of a price people won't trade them.

...or CCP could take the lazy approach and let the players self regulate the PLEX token pricing.

When the easiest and laziest approach is also the most cost effective, it is pretty obvious what the choice would be.


The thing here is, how much money WOULD it make ccp. if they did it right, lets say, 90% of all plex's baught from ccp, shattered crystal ect whicha re then sold for isk would not get used? seriously thats earning ccp ALOT of money

Sun Clausewitz
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:42:00 - [13]
 

[WTS] T2 Tinfoil Hat BPO

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:43:00 - [14]
 

That's pretty cunning indeed.

Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:46:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Trebor Notlimah on 12/02/2009 20:54:19
Originally by: Commanderess
What if CCP were to create random characters, spawn some ISK on them, and buy PLEX/GTC off the open market?


Demand for PLEX's would increase, resulting in higher PLEX Prices. Players leave the game due to the higher PLEX prices that they can't afford. CCP loses money?

Then PLEX's become more profitable and more nerds with money buy GTC's to sell ingame. CCP makes money?

Supply eventually catches up with the 'fake' demand (considering the number of nerds with money is unlimited) and prices drop back down until PLEX's become less profitable, at which point nerds with money stop buying GTC's/selling PLEX's. CCP loses money?

Story breaks about the scam and theres a tidal wave of rage-quits in the forums. CCP loses money?

CCP stops scamming and releases t4 -- rage-quitters return to see whats up. CCP makes money?


Just kinda threw that out there real quick -- if my logic is off -- lemme know.

Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:47:00 - [16]
 

bugger t2 i rolling the super tin foil hat

Super Tin Foil hat

Dr Resheph
Amarr
YOU ARE NOW READING THIS LOUDLY
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:47:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Del Narveux
Fatal flaw: game time is itself effectively created from nothing and goes away when used so doing this would be redundant.

This is of course assuming the $$ supply is constant, which seems fair since most GTCs are sold for isk anyway. Seller doesnt really care how much time he gets, as long as its the going rate.


Uh.. it amazes me to see people fail at basic economics.

If CCP did this (and they could), it would be creating extra demand for gametime which in turn might increase supply. If there's a fatal flaw anywhere in this scheme its that an increase in demand doesn't necessarily increase supply.

The prices would skyrocket, which in turn means that CCP is pushing legitimate gamers out out of market competition while spawning hundreds of billions into the economy. Meanwhile the supply could simply peak, and any further demand would just be making PLEX sellers richer.

In other words, it would work only in the short term.

eFart
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:49:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: eFart on 12/02/2009 20:49:20
lol yall shut up and go play the game

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.02.12 20:50:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.

Elysarian
Minmatar
Elysarian Corp
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:50:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Elysarian on 12/02/2009 20:51:07
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


/me nods...

It's seal flippers right?

Kulmid
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:52:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


Can you respond to the OP?

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.02.12 20:54:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


Can you respond to the OP?



We don't eat whale flippers, seal flippers, or scam GTCs and PLEXs.

the naked dancing volcano thing? totally true, tho

Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:55:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


Can you respond to the OP?



We don't eat whale flippers, seal flippers, or scam GTCs and PLEXs.

the naked dancing volcano thing? totally true, tho



Handing out t2 BPO's? c/d? Wink

Kulmid
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:56:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


Can you respond to the OP?



We don't eat whale flippers, seal flippers, or scam GTCs and PLEXs.

the naked dancing volcano thing? totally true, tho


Then you should, its genius.

Haradgrim
Systematic Mercantilism
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:58:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Haradgrim on 12/02/2009 20:58:49
Originally by: Trebor Notlimah

Handing out t2 BPO's? c/d? Wink


Flogging a dead horse? c/d? Wink

Alex V0X2
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.12 20:59:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


Can you respond to the OP?



We don't eat whale flippers, seal flippers, or scam GTCs and PLEXs.

the naked dancing volcano thing? totally true, tho



a fish might be smelled here Laughing

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2009.02.12 21:00:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
Originally by: Riceball Wingding


Not only that, but they could dance naked on an icy volcano while eating whale flippers!

When will it ever end?

Shocked




we don't eat whale flippers.


Nom, nom, nom

Err yeah, course not.

Super Tin Foil hat


I thought we were keeping the Fanfest pics SEKWIT?

Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.12 21:00:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Haradgrim
Edited by: Haradgrim on 12/02/2009 20:58:49
Originally by: Trebor Notlimah

Handing out t2 BPO's? c/d? Wink


Flogging a dead horse? c/d? Wink


I swear I saw it move a little....

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2009.02.12 21:00:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: CCP Fallout
the naked dancing volcano thing? totally true, tho
You saw a naked dancing volcano? Just what were you on? Shocked

CCP Fallout

Posted - 2009.02.12 21:02:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: CCP Fallout
the naked dancing volcano thing? totally true, tho
You saw a naked dancing volcano? Just what were you on? Shocked


brennivin


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