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H Zebra
Zebra Corp
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:25:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: H Zebra on 11/02/2009 11:56:25
Edited by: H Zebra on 10/02/2009 09:13:08
How do i swap to teh old fittings menu as teh new one is a bit of a mess.
if there isnt an option to use the old style one, any chance you could do that pls ccp.

ceaon
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:30:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: H Zebra
How do i swap to teh old fittings menu as teh new one is a bit of a mess.
if there isnt an option to use the old style one, any chance you could do that pls ccp.

agree this fit screen is to big

need a option to turn this thing off and use old screen

Caiman Graystock
Caldari
Cornelius Starship and Computer Design
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:31:00 - [3]
 

or at least make it opaque

Julie Tripoux
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:32:00 - [4]
 

and movable

H Zebra
Zebra Corp
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:33:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Caiman Graystock
or at least make it opaque


dont think that would help too much. cant open you hanger cos it covers teh fittings, cant see whats going on with fittinsg cos teh item hanger covers it.


Gordan 23
Perkone
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:37:00 - [6]
 

agree, it's kinda messy the old one was more straightforward

N'olive
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:38:00 - [7]
 

The fitting screen definately need a "Close" button, else you have to fold the side part to be able to click the "Fitting" button in the services to close it.

Sperrzone
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.02.09 17:46:00 - [8]
 

i agree that window is a monster in size and the important infos are all spread over so you´re moving other windws around all the time to see whats up

Tilde Ampersand
Amarr
Trashed and Scattered
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:02:00 - [9]
 

ok, i run eve in 1280x1024 and there is barely enough room on the right side to click on the station info panel (not your hangars, just above them). This will bring your hangars and station info panel forward, on top of the fitting panel, and you can get to your things :) just dont click directly onto the fitting panel or you will have to do it all again.

word of warning, tho, rigs cant be installed :-/

L046
ZC Industries
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:08:00 - [10]
 

pls drop thsi and go back to the old style fitting window, atm this is a nightmare

Celsian Merendor
Caldari
Redwind Trading Facility
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Celsian Merendor on 09/02/2009 18:20:18
Originally by: H Zebra
Originally by: Caiman Graystock
or at least make it opaque


dont think that would help too much. cant open you hanger cos it covers teh fittings, cant see whats going on with fittinsg cos teh item hanger covers it.




You really don't need the items hanger as much. In the fitting window if you click on personal ship modules and/or personal module charges on the left it lists all the items in your hanger that go with that type of ship. Though I do agree there should be a close button somewhere on it.

Blaull
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:32:00 - [12]
 

Im in love with the new fitting screen!! I hope they wont budge an inch in changeing the way it is working now!

Gomme Arabi
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:37:00 - [13]
 

the new fitting screen is horrible I don't even know where to start picking out things on it.

if you're putting that into the game PLEASE make an option to still use the old one..

Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:37:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Asestorian on 09/02/2009 18:37:35
This new fittings screen is a mess.

It needs:

- To be movable
- to have a close button
- to be made more opaque so it can be read more easily

It might also be too big. A lot of important stuff is completely obscured by it unless you collapse the two main panels, and that's incredibly annoying. In fact, as it is I have to collapse the right panel so I can click on the fitting button to close it again! WHY?

I'm not entirely sure of the purpose of the PG/CPU bars either. They are unreadable, as is the capacitor graphic. They don't make any sense or add anything to the screen.

Digital Communist also expressed many of my concerns in his post on SHC here.

H Zebra
Zebra Corp
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:43:00 - [15]
 

please dont waste your time trying to fix this mess, just go back to teh old fitting screen. we all love that next to this croc

Bootya
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:46:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: L046
pls drop thsi and go back to the old style fitting window, atm this is a nightmare


Not a big fan of progress, are you?

The window has obvious issues that need to be fixed (opacity, size, close button to name a few), but it's a good start and I hope they'll stick with it instead of listening to all those nay-sayers.

Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:49:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: H Zebra
please dont waste your time trying to fix this mess, just go back to teh old fitting screen. we all love that next to this croc


I don't know, I think they changed it for a reason. The old one was getting crowded, big time, and I can't really see where they would have been able to put in the Tech III module section either. I also think that the new way to fit is a little easier overall as well.

It's still awful as it is though. But they should be able to fix it without too much trouble.

H Zebra
Zebra Corp
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:50:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Bootya
Originally by: L046
pls drop thsi and go back to the old style fitting window, atm this is a nightmare


Not a big fan of progress, are you?

The window has obvious issues that need to be fixed (opacity, size, close button to name a few), but it's a good start and I hope they'll stick with it instead of listening to all those nay-sayers.


that in no way can be considered progress. progress dictates a move forward... thats not a move forward. its overly complicated, badly laid out and looks bad.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:50:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: H Zebra
please dont waste your time trying to fix this mess, just go back to teh old fitting screen. we all love that next to this croc
No. I like this new damn fitting screen and hope its here to stay, the old one was outdated.

This new one is aspiring to cut down all the junk you would usually have open when fitting a ship, and while there are a few tweaks needed, it does this quite well. And the whole "having it surround your ship" thing is awesome.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:54:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: H Zebra
that in no way can be considered progress. progress dictates a move forward... thats not a move forward. its overly complicated, badly laid out and looks bad.
Wat.

Freyya
Advanced Planetary Exports
Intergalactic Exports Group
Posted - 2009.02.09 18:58:00 - [21]
 

Small graphical glitches with it, when you have your current fitting open and then swap ship the icons don't update correctly.

Asestorian
Domination.
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:04:00 - [22]
 

If you unload ammo with the button underneath it, the turret that the ammo was in doesn't appear on the screen till you close and reopen it.

H Zebra
Zebra Corp
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:05:00 - [23]
 

i play in window mode at 1280 x 768.running 3 or 4 clients at a time, having something that covers the half the screen and isnt easy to see with other windows open isnt a help imo. oh i know it looks shiney, but practical it isnt
zeb

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:07:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: H Zebra
i play in window mode at 1280 x 768.running 3 or 4 clients at a time, having something that covers the half the screen and isnt easy to see with other windows open isnt a help imo. oh i know it looks shiney, but practical it isnt
zeb
YOu can close the side flaps. Use the little in-pointing arrows next to the fitting sphere.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:09:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 09/02/2009 19:10:10
Originally by: H Zebra
i play in window mode at 1280 x 768.running 3 or 4 clients at a time, having something that covers the half the screen and isnt easy to see with other windows open isnt a help imo. oh i know it looks shiney, but practical it isnt
zeb


so they just need to fix it.

clam down.

p.s.(other than no close button and such it looks and works wonders on 1900x1200

The fact that you now have you items, and ammo and cargo all in the same window is a step forward. no more need more multiple windows.

FireFoxx80
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:10:00 - [26]
 

Yup, defintely needs to be opaque.

Professor Dumbledore
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:17:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Professor Dumbledore on 09/02/2009 19:17:08
who ever designed this needs to pull their head out of their ass and learn to design.

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~fub/moarfitting.jpg

is terrible and heads need to roll.

Winters Chill
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:22:00 - [28]
 

Fitting Window Feedback:

The way you close it isn't immediatly apparent I found myself instictively looking for a X. Unless I missed the button. I was using the icon in the left side interface bar...very clumsy.

In station the right half of the immovable interfact blocks the station sidebar. This too has a very very clumsy feel to it.

The stats on the right side of the interface kind of merges with the station interface bar on the right making it very hard to make anything out.

Cors
It's A Trap
It's A Trap Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:25:00 - [29]
 

I dont' mind the interface. My issue is simply one of visability. Being see through is fine, IF the items on the front stand out.

Simple White Text on the multi color backgrounds of a stations interior make it hard to see.

Maybe if they make little floating blocks of color. Example, the ring in the center is fine, because modules are larger, solid, and colorful in most cases. Easy to see over the background because they stand out.

Text on the other hand is smaller. So areas' like the right hand side status area needs a solid background behind the text and icons. It's too hard to see otherwise.

Other then the visabilty, which can be fixed "easily", I like it. I HATE the damned windows we have now. Windows is so.... 1995..

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.02.09 19:28:00 - [30]
 

I didnt even get the point why you need to put T3 Stuff in it.
Okay, Rigs can be fitted into every ship but subsystems are only for T3.
There must be a better solution for it instead of putting it into the main fitting window, maybe a dropout menu if you assemble a Strategic Cruiser

Fitting window is way to messy


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