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Mi Canio
Posted - 2004.08.03 20:05:00 - [1]

Here's an article that was in the Guardian (British Newspaper) today about "The strange world of online gaming"

clicky clicky

Talks more about Lineage 2 but has some interesting stuff...

Miner Protection Guild
Posted - 2004.08.03 21:36:00 - [2]

lol. i love the "finding treasure" bit.

Mr Gimlet
Posted - 2004.08.03 22:02:00 - [3]

nice post - some scary thoughts, but mostly true i fearShocked

Dust Puppy
Posted - 2004.08.03 22:54:00 - [4]

Nice read. I did think it was a bit to pessimistic although I think he had a point with the trading real life money for virtual goods. The thing is though that if people are having problem with distinguishing between a virtual world and real life then the problem was probably there long before the they started playing a mmog.

Posted - 2004.08.03 22:55:00 - [5]

Good job the journo not test play eve, the article would never have been written and his "day job" would now be mining veld Twisted Evil

Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2004.08.03 23:23:00 - [6]


Posted - 2004.08.03 23:47:00 - [7]

its been written about so many times before.
may have been interesting 5yrs ago

Posted - 2004.08.04 00:58:00 - [8]

For no clear reason, an elf woman starts beating Theguardian with a sword.

Wild Rho
Silent Core
Posted - 2004.08.04 03:04:00 - [9]

I think its the freedom you get in the virtual world and not in the real world that is the biggest attraction for many.

i the real world you gotta work, pay bills, taxes and a hundred other things and theres not alot of room to do what you really really want.

In the virutal worlds like eve you have a much more direct control over your "virtual" life and it bestows a sense of self power and freedom to do as you choose.

Posted - 2004.08.04 08:33:00 - [10]

Edited by: meowcat on 04/08/2004 08:35:14
my favourite bit:

"This guy says blah blah blah, you may now f_ck that bi_ch," says Slowmotion, a busy, fidgety avatar whose current form is a green dwarf but who acts and talks like South Park's Eric Cartman

on the general article:it irritates me to read articles like this, where they assume that everyone playing mmog's is doing so because they are unhappy with the real world... utter bull****, it's recreation, and nothing more

Posted - 2004.08.04 10:39:00 - [11]

You have to understand that newspaper articles generalise and simplify issues because they have to assume they are writing for a reader base that is ignorant of the topic in hand, in this case online games.

Interesting to read an outsiders view of games. Got me thinking anyway...

Joshua Calvert
Rule One
Posted - 2004.08.04 10:55:00 - [12]

The internet will be the doom of the world and should be ended immediately.

Except for removed of course.

Oranged - Vanamonde

Kin Hanyerec
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2004.08.04 16:06:00 - [13]

Edited by: Kin Hanyerec on 04/08/2004 16:10:58
he said some interesting true things like :
"It's the people who make it fun. The game itself is boring. It always has been," says Yogurt.

I totally agree with that.

hired goon
Posted - 2004.08.04 18:50:00 - [14]

The person who wrote this article is a n00b.

Mi Canio
Posted - 2004.08.04 21:50:00 - [15]

I thought it was very interesting to read an "outsiders" view of online gaming although games like L2 and Everquest are completely different from Eve. For a start there are no 12 year old (well not many) ****s trying to pick a fight with everyone. Eve is a much more mature (and I use that term in the loosest possible sense) game.

But the fact that people will pay big bucks for items that don't exist in the real world still amazes me.

And to the person who said that online gaming is recreation and nothing more - that may be the case for 90% of the general online gaming population but for the other 10% who are willing to pay $4000 for a character it's slightly more than that and I think the article was more about them - anyone else sat and played eve for 14 days straight? Or know who died of DVT while playing eve?

There are some real crazies out there when it comes to online gaming and I think the article highlights that.

PS. am a bit drunk so apologies in advance for any ranting or droning on...

PPS. Miso - great point as usual......

Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2004.08.05 02:10:00 - [16]

hehe reminds me that in France we got some kind of a campaign from TV against video games addictions Rolling Eyes They like making a generality of 5-10% of some game community (prolly less in fact) Smile

Q's Corp
Posted - 2004.08.05 02:57:00 - [17]

/me steals thread

hired, that sig of yours is awesome :D
Your friends normally that weird?

Evil Strangers Inc.
Posted - 2004.08.06 14:05:00 - [18]

Originally by: Mi Canio
But the fact that people will pay big bucks for items that don't exist in the real world still amazes me.*

They don't just buy the item, they pay for the time investment it takes to get said item or character. It's having someone do the work for you. Which is, for some, a lot easier then doing said work themselfs.

Think that's the nature of the games though, you need to be able to progress for the entire duration of the game, for the common single player RPG 100 hours is long, it's absolutely nothing for a hardcore MMORPG player where you're talking about thousands upon thousands of hours. To make that possible and rewarding, it becomes hard work for those that are not hardcore and don't have those thousands of hours.

The lines are blurring though, whether or not that's a good thing I can't say, but I can honestly say i like the virtual world ( EVE that is, some of the others... ) a lot more then the real one.


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