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Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2009.02.09 00:12:00 - [91]
 

Edited by: Killer Gandry on 09/02/2009 00:14:11

So let me get this straight.

If some messed up individual can dissolve an Alliance within a blink of an eye it's making use of game mechanics.

Now if the following reaction is also by the use of game mechanics it's a big no no?

Don't get me wrong, I have no love for The Alliance Formaly Known as BoB. I couldn't care less.
But when one game mechanic is used against someone and you have another game mechanic to counter that then where is the issue?

So let all those that now complain about them setting up a new Alliance and make use of working ingame mechanics to speed things up also use the same vocal disagreement about the ease with which their former Alliance was dissolved.

Disclaimer: This responce is utterly my personal point of vieuw and in no way can be seen as my Corporations point of vieuw

Venomire
Amarr
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.02.09 00:15:00 - [92]
 

What I gathered from all this is that CCP is dumb and doesn't know their own game or doesn't think it's a good idea to make sure things are properly documented.

Estios
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.09 00:36:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Cayleu
This was not a surprise to anyone no matter what ccp's web site says. The important thing is that sov 3 and 4 is broken almost everywhere in delve, which means the defender has no advantage in an invasion for at least a month.


The advantage is that the agressor is you


Venomire
Amarr
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.02.09 00:39:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Estios
The advantage is that the agressor is you

The advantage is that the defender is you.

Venomire
Amarr
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
Posted - 2009.02.09 00:40:00 - [95]
 

See how dumb that post was? I mean that's a terrible comeback.

Much like what I quoted.

SK Rooster
Gallente
No Trademark
Killboard Online
Posted - 2009.02.09 00:40:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Estios
Originally by: Cayleu
This was not a surprise to anyone no matter what ccp's web site says. The important thing is that sov 3 and 4 is broken almost everywhere in delve, which means the defender has no advantage in an invasion for at least a month.


The advantage is that the agressor is you




kablammo

DasDizzy
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
Posted - 2009.02.09 02:46:00 - [97]
 

I fully agree with TT on this and all matters

Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.02.09 04:00:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: DasDizzy
I fully agree with TT on this and all matters


TT = Wins Eve! <3

Sergeant Spot
Caldari
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.09 09:41:00 - [99]
 

In response to the OP...

We planned all this long ago.

1st
.... we had CCP install the bug/feature in the orginal release of tower/sovereignty mechanics....

2nd
.... when other alliances descovered the feature/bug, we ordered CCP to not fix it, as we knew this day would come.... (all part of our plan....)

3rd
then, of course, we arranged for Haargoth to do his dirt (he merely THOUGHT he was acting of his own free will...)

and finally, we took shameless advantage of the bug, by deliberate plan. After all, its aobvious to anyone with any brains that if we were honest players, our towers would have ignored the universal mechanics of the game, and taked a week to make their claim.

OBVIOUS active and willful cheating.


It would take a real fool to suggest that our towers functioned the exact same everyone else's, according to same mechanics that have always been there.

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2009.02.09 10:54:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
that'd be on the internet, might want to work on that reading comprehension skillset


Are you upset that a thread you made worked against you ?

... even though the target of the thread being BoB, goons troll your lack of information. :(

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.09 10:54:00 - [101]
 

Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 09/02/2009 10:57:41
Originally by: Muad' Dib
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
that'd be on the internet, might want to work on that reading comprehension skillset


Are you upset that a thread you made worked against you ?

... even though the target of the thread being BoB, goons troll your lack of information. :(


No i'm not upset, but then i don't think this thread worked against me (people troll all threads I make anyway just because I made them)
also i don't see any goons trolling me, please point their posts out ?

Originally by: Sergeant Spot
In response to the OP...

We planned all this long ago.

1st
.... we had CCP install the bug/feature in the orginal release of tower/sovereignty mechanics....

2nd
.... when other alliances descovered the feature/bug, we ordered CCP to not fix it, as we knew this day would come.... (all part of our plan....)

3rd
then, of course, we arranged for Haargoth to do his dirt (he merely THOUGHT he was acting of his own free will...)

and finally, we took shameless advantage of the bug, by deliberate plan. After all, its aobvious to anyone with any brains that if we were honest players, our towers would have ignored the universal mechanics of the game, and taked a week to make their claim.

OBVIOUS active and willful cheating.


It would take a real fool to suggest that our towers functioned the exact same everyone else's, according to same mechanics that have always been there.



Just as I suspected, oh you crafty bobbits with your sneaky sploits ! Sad

Hanaiyn
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.09 11:01:00 - [102]
 

Edited by: Hanaiyn on 09/02/2009 11:01:12
I am sure these are just bad circumstances.
- Wardecs get lifted after 14 hours.
- Sovereignity Bug in all systems pops in.

Sure, this just happened to you, but dont act like you didn't want that.
That makes you look even more stupid, because either case you lie.

Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2009.02.09 11:04:00 - [103]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
No i'm not upset, but then i don't think this thread worked against me (people troll all threads I make anyway just because I made them)


The only thing I liked about your posting was the feeling you didnt care, I guess I was wrong.

Estios
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.09 11:14:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
No i'm not upset, but then i don't think this thread worked against me (people troll all threads I make anyway just because I made them)


TT I quoted one of said goon trolls about 4 posts above you saying 'show me one' , has your tin foil hat slipped down over your eyes ?

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.09 12:10:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 09/02/2009 12:18:02
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
No i'm not upset, but then i don't think this thread worked against me (people troll all threads I make anyway just because I made them)


The only thing I liked about your posting was the feeling you didnt care, I guess I was wrong.



How does not being upset = caring ?
btw I thought you just got promoted to RKK director :O what's with the corp switch ? RKK = terrible c/c

Originally by: Estios
TT I quoted one of said goon trolls about 4 posts above you saying 'show me one' , has your tin foil hat slipped down over your eyes ?


The goon you quoted wasn't trolling at all :P and his post is in fact constructive and pretty much accurate.
Your post where you quote him on the other hand is trolling.

PS; it having always been this way doesn't mean it isn't a bug

Mitch Taylor
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2009.02.09 13:09:00 - [106]
 

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
btw I thought you just got promoted to RKK director :O what's with the corp switch ? RKK = terrible c/c


With a track record like mine, its best to move on before I break something Laughing


GM Spiral


Amarr
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:37:00 - [107]
 

I know it is bad form to cross-post things, but I believe my post on this in General Discussion will answer some of the concerns voiced here in this thread.

Link to post

Please direct any concerns or queries you may have regarding this to the other thread.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Senior GM Spiral
EVE Online Customer Support Team

Myz Toyou
Minmatar
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:41:00 - [108]
 

Originally by: GM Spiral
I know it is bad form to cross-post things, but I believe my post on this in General Discussion will answer some of the concerns voiced here in this thread.

Link to post

Please direct any concerns or queries you may have regarding this to the other thread.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Senior GM Spiral
EVE Online Customer Support Team


In befor Goons claiming GM Spiral has his main in BOB erm KenZuko \o/

Cippalippus Primus
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:44:00 - [109]
 

I don't see goons accusing anyone here, but you're pretty dumb anyway vOv

Sophia Truthspeaker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:45:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou

In befor Goons claiming GM Spiral has his main in BOB erm KenZuko \o/



Why would they?

Originally by: GM Spiral
Investigation into this has not revealed any foul play, exploits or other unintended issues affecting the sovereign status of the alliance KenZoku. The alliance’s current sovereign status is the result of current and intended game mechanics.


So the disbanding of bob wasn't an exploit. Kennies sov status now, which wouldn't have happend without bobs demise, is perfectly legal.

So gratz goons, now you have officially won against bob.

becherela
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:47:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Sophia Truthspeaker
Originally by: Myz Toyou

In befor Goons claiming GM Spiral has his main in BOB erm KenZuko \o/



Why would they?

Originally by: GM Spiral
Investigation into this has not revealed any foul play, exploits or other unintended issues affecting the sovereign status of the alliance KenZoku. The alliance’s current sovereign status is the result of current and intended game mechanics.


So the disbanding of bob wasn't an exploit. Kennies sov status now, which wouldn't have happend without bobs demise, is perfectly legal.

So gratz goons, now you have officially won against bob.



Will they win against Kenzoku?

Uellan Doener
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
Goodfellas.
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:48:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Myz Toyou

In before Goons claiming GM Spiral has his main in BOB erm KenZuko \o/



He has it in Goodfellas., okay?

Sophia Truthspeaker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.02.09 14:51:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: becherela
Will they win against Kenzoku?


No idea. I hope not. Then again I hope yes. Of course THE INTERNET. will mop up any survivors anyway and claim Delve as the glorious information republic it was always meant to be.

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.09 15:02:00 - [114]
 

Not sure I believe it was (originally) intended, but it's good that the article's been fixed Smile

Taram Caldar
Caldari
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.02.09 15:06:00 - [115]
 

OP and Whiners need to learn Game Mechanics TBFH

Gierling
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.02.09 15:51:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: GM Spiral
I know it is bad form to cross-post things, but I believe my post on this in General Discussion will answer some of the concerns voiced here in this thread.

Link to post

Please direct any concerns or queries you may have regarding this to the other thread.

Thanks!

Best regards,
Senior GM Spiral
EVE Online Customer Support Team


CCP must be nice to work for, I know that at my job when I do something contrary to documentation provided to clients I am suppossed to change my behavior to comply with the written communication.

I'm sorry CCP its unacceptable, Game mechanics need to comply to written documentation. If your policy isn't in agreement change the damn documentation FIRST.

Anything less is arbitrary, we the players are not privy to the internal consensus of CCP (well those of us who don't have a batphone anyway), we have to go on what is written in the documentation.

This isn't the first time you've pulled a stunt like this, and all it does is reinforce the players impression that your decisions are arbitrary and unfathomable to the players.


Daviclond
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.09 15:55:00 - [117]
 

gierling in fairness everyone knew the ccp documentation was a joke in advance

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.09 15:59:00 - [118]
 

Yeah and they can't really correct it if they themselves don't have a clue how it works ;P

Kay Han
Caldari
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2009.02.09 16:35:00 - [119]
 

Edited by: Kay Han on 09/02/2009 16:35:25
Edited by: Kay Han on 09/02/2009 16:34:59
Wasnt it like this all the time?
I mean... Even my Dog knew that Kenny gets souv in all former BoB systems within a blink of an Eye (DT)

But thanks for teh entertainment Tyrrax Dork :)

Estios
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.09 16:38:00 - [120]
 

Not that I've bothered with a lag petition since about 04 but it's make for a good chuckle when you get that generic response "our documentation shows no errors or grounds for re-imbursement" . I always thought documentation was over rated


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