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Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.14 04:24:00 - [121]
 

Gallente Defensive Subsystems were indeed seeded. I both bought and assembled a Proteus before the server went down for this (extended) downtime.

Taradis
Amarr
The Imperial Assassins
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.02.14 16:30:00 - [122]
 

Does anyone know when the ship models for the legion will be finished? My legion looks like a bubble no matter what I do but I did manage to find a combo that works and I can see a ship and not just a bubble but the ship is not complete as the paint scheme is missing and looks clear to an extent.ugh

Sophia Truthspeaker
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.02.14 17:22:00 - [123]
 

I only tried the legion a bit, to see how it works.
I think the diffrent subsystems don't do anything yet. Armor didn't get added at least for me.

Still:
While i understand attributes aren't final, I liked the feeling of it a lot.
I slapped in a pretty basic setup, highs full of pulse, mwd, webber, a tank, heatsink and tried myself on some 0.0 rats.
It was like flying a cruiser sized frig, which was pretty great. I really hope that feeling is intended, even if it will be very rarely that I will be able to fly such a cruiser in combat, due to the probably medium to high costs and a certain vulnability.

Balancing on current ships will be pretty hard I imagine, but if those ships stay close to what they are now, they will be a great addition.

achoura
Posted - 2009.02.14 20:37:00 - [124]
 

Edited by: achoura on 14/02/2009 20:37:19
Assemble the legion 33323.

i.e. propulsion 2.

Sophia Truthspeaker
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2009.02.14 22:34:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: achoura
Edited by: achoura on 14/02/2009 20:37:19
Assemble the legion 33323.

i.e. propulsion 2.


Ah right my bad... armor does get added correctly... jsut the fitting screen is borked... it adds the bonus armor of the second subsystem on top of the first one, instead of only on top of the cruiser base hp.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2009.02.15 20:27:00 - [126]
 

Honestly? I like flying a tengu with two midslots just for novelty value. It'll be nice when the slot ratios get balanced out, of course, but just being able to fly in a caldari ship with plenty of lows is a nice change.

Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.15 20:56:00 - [127]
 

I made a wallpaper out of the Proteus 33333, i hope you like ^^ Click

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.15 21:39:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Perry
I made a wallpaper out of the Proteus 33333, i hope you like ^^ Click


It was nice till the 4th image. Then I did notice the handle.
T3 vacuum cleaner. Laughing
My poor race. Crying or Very sad

Taipan Leviathan
Dark Star Confederation
The Ancients.
Posted - 2009.02.15 23:09:00 - [129]
 

me wants minmatar texture's.

William Clarque
Gallente
Free Traders
Posted - 2009.02.16 04:49:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Perry
I made a wallpaper out of the Proteus 33333, i hope you like ^^ Click


It was nice till the 4th image. Then I did notice the handle.
T3 vacuum cleaner. Laughing
My poor race. Crying or Very sad


First thing I noticed, too.Rolling Eyes Who the hell approved that design?

Koyama Ise
Caldari
Posted - 2009.02.16 12:40:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Perry
I made a wallpaper out of the Proteus 33333, i hope you like ^^ Click


It was nice till the 4th image. Then I did notice the handle.
T3 vacuum cleaner. Laughing
My poor race. Crying or Very sad

Pretend it's a lightsaber.

Taradis
Amarr
The Imperial Assassins
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.02.16 13:47:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Perry
I made a wallpaper out of the Proteus 33333, i hope you like ^^ Click




It looks like a dirtdevil Laughing but hey least you an tell its supposed to be a ship

Potrero
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2009.02.16 20:21:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Perry
I made a wallpaper out of the Proteus 33333, i hope you like ^^ Click
The Dust Buster of Doom!

Ahz
Posted - 2009.02.16 20:32:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Sophia Truthspeaker
I only tried the legion a bit, to see how it works.
I think the diffrent subsystems don't do anything yet. Armor didn't get added at least for me.

Still:
While i understand attributes aren't final, I liked the feeling of it a lot.
I slapped in a pretty basic setup, highs full of pulse, mwd, webber, a tank, heatsink and tried myself on some 0.0 rats.
It was like flying a cruiser sized frig, which was pretty great. I really hope that feeling is intended, even if it will be very rarely that I will be able to fly such a cruiser in combat, due to the probably medium to high costs and a certain vulnability.

Balancing on current ships will be pretty hard I imagine, but if those ships stay close to what they are now, they will be a great addition.



The loki flies like a dream:
- 6 high (4/4 layout)
- 2 mids
- 6 lows

With the 3/3/3/3/3 configuration I was at a base speed of over 700 m/s second sitting in station. Adding injectors, rigs and a tech II mwd gave me a 5.5 k/s cruiser.

When would anyone ever fly a Vagabond again?

Hegbard
Posted - 2009.02.16 21:15:00 - [135]
 

The Tengu is useless. It's impossible to shield tank because of the two mid slots (or just one should you choose to go that way), the armor tank on it is so and so (passive) and it can nanos to around 3.5km/s. I really hope the stats are just "roll forehead over keyboard to get something out through the door to test". I'd say it's worth around 20M ISK or so. Slightly better than a caracal, but worse than a caracal navy issue. Has huge cpu issues, but too much grid (which is why the passive armor tank is decent - two 1600 plates (lol)).

Siu Supjee
Posted - 2009.02.16 21:48:00 - [136]
 

Any word on whether the Loki (or Tengu) will allow a less-mixed turret/missile layout? Will we be able to achieve more gun-centric layouts (5 turrets...or more?!), perhaps with an offensive module that subtracts missiles and adds turrets? Seems to me that this would be a necessity to compete with tech 2.

Also, it seems like people are getting these things up to pre-QR nano speeds. Surely that's unintentional (or just plain not final)?

What I'd really like to see from the Loki more than anything (as a current Vagabond pilot) is the ability to run 5 turrets in 5 highs, lose the utility high and dedicate that to a mid instead. Which would require a Minma offensive module that does not add a high and subtract a mid.

Devan Corvel
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2009.02.16 23:59:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Horchan
Gallente Defensive Subsystems were indeed seeded. I both bought and assembled a Proteus before the server went down for this (extended) downtime.


What system/region were you in? Essence, Everyshore, and Genesis are completely devoid of Gallente Defensive Subsystems 1, 2, or 3

Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.17 00:02:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Devan CorvelWhat system/region were you in? Essence, Everyshore, and Genesis are completely devoid of Gallente Defensive Subsystems 1, 2, or 3[/quote


They're only seeded in FD-.

Devan Corvel
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2009.02.17 00:06:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: Devan CorvelWhat system/region were you in? Essence, Everyshore, and Genesis are completely devoid of Gallente Defensive Subsystems 1, 2, or 3[/quote


They're only seeded in FD-.


Wow... That's a major PITA. Thanks for the info though.

Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.18 15:25:00 - [140]
 


Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2009.02.18 16:36:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Perry
I made some new wallpapers:

Legion 11111 "Predator"
Legion 22222 "Warbird"
Legion 33333 "Seeker"


But...but..bu...now I want ALL of those ships!!Shocked

C.



Rosur
Gallente
Heroes.
Posted - 2009.02.18 18:13:00 - [142]
 

Will the galleten t3 ship be able to launch 5 heavy drones in any of the varitions?

Camulos
Gallente
Kojima Exports
Posted - 2009.02.18 18:31:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Rosur
Will the galleten t3 ship be able to launch 5 heavy drones in any of the varitions?


No, but things are not ballenced yet. Currently i can only run 5x light drones with the offensive subsystem 2, which is the only subsystem that adds any drone bandwith.
Now my question, whats the word on the 4th and 5th subsystems for each of the 5 differnet subsystems? I know they are not modeled or seeded yet but are they still on the way, or have they been cut? I cant find any info on them?

RealMeanDigsy
Posted - 2009.02.18 19:57:00 - [144]
 

Those renders look very nice. Is there a graphics update too or are my video settings a little off?

Gut Punch
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2009.02.18 20:16:00 - [145]
 

To CCP:

Any chance on getting a ship bonus for T3? Right now there isn't any reason to fly a T3 ship. T1 can do about the same and T2 definately beats it. Maybe allow the subsystems to affect the ship bonus but at the least could we get the minmatar to have the traditional falloff, etc etc etc for all races?

I'm sure you are still balancing the ships but just was wondering.

Aya Vandenovich
Posted - 2009.02.18 20:37:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Gut Punch
To CCP:

Any chance on getting a ship bonus for T3? Right now there isn't any reason to fly a T3 ship. T1 can do about the same and T2 definately beats it. Maybe allow the subsystems to affect the ship bonus but at the least could we get the minmatar to have the traditional falloff, etc etc etc for all races?

I'm sure you are still balancing the ships but just was wondering.


There are actually some bonuses present, but as nothing has been officially balanced they technically don't exist yet. The Amarr Defensive Subsystem 2, for example, has some kind of armour resist bonus built into it.

DTson Gauur
Caldari
Blend.
Nulli Tertius
Posted - 2009.02.18 21:15:00 - [147]
 

I do hope that the missing subsystems (4 and 5) bring caldari possibility for more than 5 turrets... atm. you can't have a Tengu with more than 5 turrets which is a bit meh considering that at the same time you CAN build a Tengu with 6 launchers (and EIGHT midslots with 1 low or with 7 and 3 lows)

Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
Posted - 2009.02.18 21:27:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Perry
I made some new wallpapers:
Legion 11111 "Predator"

When you are just not satisfied with the size of the beak on the Prophecy line of ships ... that is one humongous snout!

The 5x2 and 5x3 looks seriously sweet though.

D4rkF4lcon
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.19 01:25:00 - [149]
 

Eagerly awaiting bonuses to be released on these ships any idea when that is going to happen?

As it stands right now they are pretty much eye candy with no substance, hell even a t1 frig is better than these ships right now!

Release the bonuses!

Espoir
Trident Armed Forces
Republic Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.19 10:01:00 - [150]
 

Edited by: Espoir on 19/02/2009 10:43:39
Edited by: Espoir on 19/02/2009 10:39:43
Minmatar:
Speed Fit (Thrasher like)
Tank & Damage Fit (Bulldozer / Cyclone)
Weird Design (Iteron on crack)

Amarr:
Test (someone said "Vacuum Cleaner" - I agree)
Test2

And:
Amarr+Minnie
Amarr-Minnie2

Bonus:
Wormhole Cubemap


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