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Thorin Quinn
Caldari
Dominion Gaming
Primary.
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:26:00 - [1]
 

Reports from our "Leak" tells us that a petition has been sent and that CCP is to return things back to normal after DT C/D?

This is sounding Familiar once more ... CCP helping BoB ...

Etien Aldragoran
Gallente
Legitimate Corporation
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:28:00 - [2]
 

If by CCP is to return things back to normal after DT you mean sov dropping, then c.

Arbiter Reformed
Minmatar
Garnet Resources
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:28:00 - [3]
 

woot

MRKWA
Minmatar
Nekogami Band
JIHADASQUAD
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:28:00 - [4]
 

:p lawl...theres our chance of free war decs! so men, gather up your best ships, cus wer mining tonight in delve!

Thorin Quinn
Caldari
Dominion Gaming
Primary.
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:29:00 - [5]
 

as i am understanding this, CCP is to intervene and restore sov/alliance etc

Etien Aldragoran
Gallente
Legitimate Corporation
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:29:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Thorin Quinn
as i am understanding this, CCP is to intervene and restore sov/alliance etc

Yes, while they're at it, they're going to restore LV and all the other alliances this has happened to.

Wolf Cry
Gallente
Rebel Inc
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:30:00 - [7]
 

lawl

Captain Thunk
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:30:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Thorin Quinn
as i am understanding this, CCP is to intervene and restore sov/alliance etc


Hard to tell until exactly what has happened is fully known.

If however, it was a director level spy (which goons claim it was and a guy from BNC confirms) then CCP has no right to do anything, to do so would mean they'd need to go back and start returning stuff from any other meta-gaming escapade.

Captain Thunk

Culmen
Caldari
Culmenation
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:33:00 - [9]
 

Pilots! Ready your breakfast and eat hearty... For tonight WE MINE IN DELVE!

sorry, couldn't resist, ignore me

Apolluon
Gallente
No Limit Productions
Looney Toons.
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:33:00 - [10]
 

If they got spies to death and CCP saves them, people need to lose their job.

Arekhon
Minmatar
Eternal Perseverance
B A N E
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:35:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Thorin Quinn
as i am understanding this, CCP is to intervene and restore sov/alliance etc


Hard to tell until exactly what has happened is fully known.

If however, it was a director level spy (which goons claim it was and a guy from BNC confirms) then CCP has no right to do anything, to do so would mean they'd need to go back and start returning stuff from any other meta-gaming escapade.

Captain Thunk



this.....if all this is true and CCP return everything then I might just cancel all my subs. I mean really whats the point of playing a game where the games DEVS always help/bail out "an" alliance.

Suck it up "ex"BoB....start a new allaince and get your **** back INGAME if your so uber, but I imagine MommyDevs will come to your rescue.

Zapp Brannigahn
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:35:00 - [12]
 

if ccp resets them, then every single meta game incident is petitionable, which is a disaster

Garkonite
Caldari
Internet Spaceship Gamers
RED Citizens
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:39:00 - [13]
 

this would not be the day bob gets shut down due to not paying bill, bob was created

Quoted from alliance info
2005.07.07 17:51

meaning if they failed to pay a bill they would be around for another 2 days therefore this indeed was an INSIDE JOB BY GOONS!!!!

GOOOO GOONS!!!!!

DHB FooFighter
Caldari
Dashavatara
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:39:00 - [14]
 

If it was a hacked account then they should get their Sov/Alliance back, if it was a spy then they shouldn't. Simple as that.

Ga'len
Amarr
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:39:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Ga''len on 05/02/2009 02:40:34
Originally by: Culmen
Pilots! Ready your breakfast and eat hearty... For tonight WE MINE IN DELVE!

sorry, couldn't resist, ignore me


Well, since I am a Neo Spartan, I can't ignore you. I lol'ed, thanx mate.

In response to the OP, I have no idea. Since the claims of Mittani are confirmed (http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=990388). This obviously is another in game theft event that is possible by use of in game mechanics. It's not an exploit, it's not a bug, it's a theft, fair and square.

CCP has no right to reverse this event as per terms of their own EULA. To do so would violate every single citation by GM's of people trying to get their stuff back from a corp theft.

CCP can not take any action other than to kindly dismiss any petitions.

I hate to see a large number of people loose a lot in a sudden event, but it's the nature of EVE Online and it was only a matter of time before something of this magnitude happened.



Pittsburgh2989
Amarr
Drusus Tech Enterprises
Sylph Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:40:00 - [16]
 

Bailout Bill?

Dramaticus
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:40:00 - [17]
 

im going to liberate my drake from qy6

Nicholas Barker
Caldari
Deez Nuts.
Nut Up Or Shut Up.
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:41:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: MRKWA
:p lawl...theres our chance of free war decs! so men, gather up your best ships, cus wer mining tonight in delve!


can i join?

Mr cardking
Caldari
New Eden Regimental Navy
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:41:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Mr cardking on 05/02/2009 02:42:22
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
If it was a hacked account then they should get their Sov/Alliance back, if it was a spy then they shouldn't. Simple as that.


Well said!

AND

If the rest of EVE cant defeat BOB without hacking them or using meta gaming then I think bob has won EVE.

Aegis Osiris
Gallente
Peanut Factory
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:42:00 - [20]
 

Sorry, but you're all wrong on this one.

Sure, CCP will return BOB to the alliance rolls. Isk lost and assets stolen are probably gone for good. But the alliance won't be ended due to a spy flicking a switch.

Before anyone goes all emo, realize that ccp is likely to make a clear distinction between using spys and metagaming to affect individual assets of an alliance (clicking sov on towers, stealing assets, running off with supercaps) and using metagaming to actually turn OFF an alliance.

There really is a difference there. If this director level spy had turned off sov on towers all over BOB space and absconded with a horde of cash and stuff, CCP wouldn't do a thing about it, just like every other time its happened.

But actually shutting down a player created alliance that way...I doubt they'd accept that as an end result for anybody.


Quake Abuse
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:43:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Dramaticus
im going to liberate my drake from qy6


qy6 6-24 never forget o7 o7 o7

Mr cardking
Caldari
New Eden Regimental Navy
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:45:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Thorin Quinn
Reports from our "Leak" tells us that a petition has been sent and that CCP is to return things back to normal after DT C/D?

This is sounding Familiar once more ... CCP helping BoB ...


Your post sounds familiar too.

"I suck at EVE...The only reason I cant beats BOB is because they cheat!! Not because I suck!!"

Stop whining about BOB and CCP and go join goons and fight them!!

Khandara Seraphim
Amarr
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:45:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Aegis Osiris
Sorry, but you're all wrong on this one.

Sure, CCP will return BOB to the alliance rolls. Isk lost and assets stolen are probably gone for good. But the alliance won't be ended due to a spy flicking a switch.

Before anyone goes all emo, realize that ccp is likely to make a clear distinction between using spys and metagaming to affect individual assets of an alliance (clicking sov on towers, stealing assets, running off with supercaps) and using metagaming to actually turn OFF an alliance.

There really is a difference there. If this director level spy had turned off sov on towers all over BOB space and absconded with a horde of cash and stuff, CCP wouldn't do a thing about it, just like every other time its happened.

But actually shutting down a player created alliance that way...I doubt they'd accept that as an end result for anybody.




If CCP directly intervenes and helps Bob after all the developer misconduct (real and imagined), then we'll never hear the end of the tinfoilhattery

Zapp Brannigahn
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:46:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Khandara Seraphim
Originally by: Aegis Osiris
Sorry, but you're all wrong on this one.

Sure, CCP will return BOB to the alliance rolls. Isk lost and assets stolen are probably gone for good. But the alliance won't be ended due to a spy flicking a switch.

Before anyone goes all emo, realize that ccp is likely to make a clear distinction between using spys and metagaming to affect individual assets of an alliance (clicking sov on towers, stealing assets, running off with supercaps) and using metagaming to actually turn OFF an alliance.

There really is a difference there. If this director level spy had turned off sov on towers all over BOB space and absconded with a horde of cash and stuff, CCP wouldn't do a thing about it, just like every other time its happened.

But actually shutting down a player created alliance that way...I doubt they'd accept that as an end result for anybody.




If CCP directly intervenes and helps Bob after all the developer misconduct (real and imagined), then we'll never hear the end of the tinfoilhattery


or is THAT the true masterstroke of the goon plan? suddenly everyone is on goons side, and hundreds of their members re-sub in outrage

either way, this is genius

Space Hog
Minmatar
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2009.02.05 02:57:00 - [25]
 

See I can understand not restoring the isk. If that was indeed stolen per a pic I saw.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2641/user5732pic164812337977os9.jpg)
However if the account was HACKED then restore it.

Ferria
Caldari
Outsourced Manufacturing
Posted - 2009.02.05 03:01:00 - [26]
 

I can't see this being possible without rolling back the server. which rolling back the server 24hr's would **** of 90% of their player base and require ceo approval, it will never happen

CCP Mitnal


Minmatar
C C P
Posted - 2009.02.05 03:04:00 - [27]
 

Locked.

Pure speculation, duplicate thread.


 

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