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Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:27:00 - [1111]
 

Originally by: ghost437

Also amusing that mittani claims he went to IGNE due to the fact its one of the ****test corps in goonswarm so they can play up the " IGNE IS BETTER THAN BOB " line!

Damn you figured out IGNE all by yourself.

Vladishe
Gallente
SoT
Soldiers of Thunderstorm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:27:00 - [1112]
 

muahahahahah

http://killboard.net/details/301930/

Don ZOLA
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:27:00 - [1113]
 

Edited by: Don ZOLA on 05/02/2009 10:27:37
Originally by: Deltronious
Shocked but Not impressed.
Bob will re-form and be stronger than ever I predict. I would happily join them in the fight against anyone who resorts to this kind of tactic to win. I would suggest there would be many others who feel the same.
After all what is an alliance but the co-operation of the corporations involved. Yes this will be painful, yes this will provide a weakness that could be exploited but you can't say that "tafkab" will simply roll over and die.




will they kill goons also? cmon, your nose cant get any browner....

edit : typos :/

Nymblar
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:27:00 - [1114]
 

I sure am glad to have Mittens on our side. This has been an epic week.
also,
Quote:
you know how oldschool bob members are sick of the new bob being ****?
WELL SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY SICK OF IT


Also, free Stucks.

Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:28:00 - [1115]
 

Originally by: Malachon Draco
CCP should undo it. This is a flaw in gamedesign if you can destroy the work of so many people for so many years like this. I have no love for BoB, but this is not the way they should go down.

Could you please elaborate on this?

Sworn Absent
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:28:00 - [1116]
 

Originally by: Malachon Draco
CCP should undo it. This is a flaw in gamedesign if you can destroy the work of so many people for so many years like this. I have no love for BoB, but this is not the way they should go down.


Wow sounds like a burn eden post.

Kami Rikiushi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:29:00 - [1117]
 

Edited by: Kami Rikiushi on 05/02/2009 10:31:04
Originally by: ghost437
Am i going to get flamed for pointing out that the account was used without permission due to haargoth being away at basic? So basically mittani found out that he could log into the guys account I assume probably shared his log in details in a PM on the forum like a bright newbie, posed as haargoth in IRC ( if it was a real spy he would have just told him the leadership password rather than mittani pretending to be haargoth to get it ) to get the leadership forum password.

So really there is high likelihood the alliance will be returned to bob, assets returned and **** replaced ( not sov levels as afaik they never replace those.

But good effort mittens :)


Uhm no, if you check the character page of the eve forums, then you will see that account sharing is up to the responsibility of the owner of the account, if there aren't any signs of an account hack, then it's haargoth being the fool and bob is out of luck. And if your computer or anything else gets hacked then again it's your own responsibility.

Prontifex
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:29:00 - [1118]
 

Is ET dancing on BoB's grave?

Potty
Caldari
No.Mercy
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:29:00 - [1119]
 

Shocked

Aaron Static
Gallente
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:29:00 - [1120]
 

Originally by: ghost437
IGNE IS BETTER THAN BOB


quotin dis

Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:31:00 - [1121]
 

* figures out that main ally was just disbanded *
* grasps desperately at straws with some hack gibberish *
* acts butthurt on eve-o *

Puncher
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:31:00 - [1122]
 

Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Malachon Draco
CCP should undo it. This is a flaw in gamedesign if you can destroy the work of so many people for so many years like this. I have no love for BoB, but this is not the way they should go down.

Could you please elaborate on this?


I think what he is getting at is:

'Don't matter, just don't bite it.'


shamai
Caldari
Dark Materials
Heretic Nation
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:31:00 - [1123]
 

In all seriousness, if there has been unauthorised access to their forums I would strongly suggest they take it up legally.

Eve might be a game, but breaking into someones web servers is a criminal offence..whether you have the password or not is irrelivant

see how funny you find that when your stood up in court

Ferocitana
Gallente
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:31:00 - [1124]
 

How long do we last in this dream.
Without impossible goals and endless drama.
Will CCP lose a ton of subscribers?
Not only by bobbies but Goons also?

Have no fear dear subscribers of Eve.
Goons/Ra are, and still are the founder of the ****train.
A train with no breaks and unspeakable momentum.
Will it hit you next?

Betryal
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:32:00 - [1125]
 

Originally by: Aaron Static
Originally by: ghost437
IGNE IS BETTER THAN BOB


quotin dis

ghost437
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:32:00 - [1126]
 

Originally by: Devian 666
* figures out that main ally was just disbanded *
* grasps desperately at straws with some hack gibberish *
* acts butthurt on eve-o *


Much like, dg- , suas titan!

CEO Pyrex
Caldari
DarkStar 1
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:33:00 - [1127]
 

Lets be very clear here, eve is all about the metagaming behind the scenes power play between real humans who have emotions, feelings and ego, that is what gives eve its depth

If we start to disband that function we will turn eve into something that is generally hypercontrolled with rule and procedure and less fun

This is a sandpit and frankly those disapproving of this tactic can be assured that this would (and probably will someday) be used against goons. What happens next is how said alliances pick themselves up and move foward.

Change is the most important thing in eve, without it we stagnate and slowly lose interest and leave. TAFKAB should see this as a huge opportunity to restart their eve game like everyone else they have killed over the years. Shape the game to their way of thinking not some old ideal from years ago that has kept them locked away under the banner of bob for so long and saw them slowly decay to a point where their top people let this happen to them.

Seriously goons have envigorated this game with action like these and now invite whoever disagrees to stand up and come get us, you know where we are.

less buhu, more pewpew

Deltronious
Gallente
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:33:00 - [1128]
 

Edited by: Deltronious on 05/02/2009 10:35:27
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Edited by: Don ZOLA on 05/02/2009 10:27:37
Originally by: Deltronious
Shocked but Not impressed.
Bob will re-form and be stronger than ever I predict. I would happily join them in the fight against anyone who resorts to this kind of tactic to win. I would suggest there would be many others who feel the same.
After all what is an alliance but the co-operation of the corporations involved. Yes this will be painful, yes this will provide a weakness that could be exploited but you can't say that "tafkab" will simply roll over and die.




will they kill goons also? cmon, your nose cant get any browner....

edit : typos :/


how does this qualify as brownnosing any more than your comment is brownnosing goons?

Kami Rikiushi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:34:00 - [1129]
 

Originally by: shamai
In all seriousness, if there has been unauthorised access to their forums I would strongly suggest they take it up legally.

Eve might be a game, but breaking into someones web servers is a criminal offence..whether you have the password or not is irrelivant

see how funny you find that when your stood up in court


Yes and harassing people like theadj out of game isn't allowed either, but that never stopped bob members, so again f'ing karma coming back and hitting you like a truck!

So bitter bob alt, suck on it!

Puncher
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:34:00 - [1130]
 

Originally by: Ferocitana
How long do we last in this dream.
Without impossible goals and endless drama.
Will CCP lose a ton of subscribers?
Not only by bobbies but Goons also?

Have no fear dear subscribers of Eve.
Goons/Ra are, and still are the founder of the ****train.
A train with no breaks and unspeakable momentum.
Will it hit you next?


I'd hit it.

Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:34:00 - [1131]
 

Originally by: shamai
In all seriousness, if there has been unauthorised access to their forums I would strongly suggest they take it up legally.

Eve might be a game, but breaking into someones web servers is a criminal offence..whether you have the password or not is irrelivant

see how funny you find that when your stood up in court

You do realise that BoB directors are allowed access to their own forums?

Malachon Draco
Caldari
eXceeded
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:35:00 - [1132]
 

Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: Malachon Draco
CCP should undo it. This is a flaw in gamedesign if you can destroy the work of so many people for so many years like this. I have no love for BoB, but this is not the way they should go down.

Could you please elaborate on this?


What do you want me to elaborate on? That this is possible is insanely stupid and if it is not undone it will end up where alliances eventually will be falling left and right to a single spy who manages to get into a position of power. I know that if any alliance in Eve deserves this, it is BoB, but I don't think it is in any way fair or reasonable that they go down like this. And if you check my posting history, you will find that I have never been a friend of BoB or their stupid antics in the past, but still I don't think they deserve this. Aside from that, I think it is bad for the game.

Do I still want to see BoB taken down, yes. But like this? No.

Goktar illiat
Gallente
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:35:00 - [1133]
 

GF ! ugh

shamai
Caldari
Dark Materials
Heretic Nation
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:36:00 - [1134]
 

Originally by: Kami Rikiushi
Originally by: shamai
In all seriousness, if there has been unauthorised access to their forums I would strongly suggest they take it up legally.

Eve might be a game, but breaking into someones web servers is a criminal offence..whether you have the password or not is irrelivant

see how funny you find that when your stood up in court


Yes and harassing people like theadj out of game isn't allowed either, but that never stopped bob members, so again f'ing karma coming back and hitting you like a truck!

So bitter bob alt, suck on it!


Im just pointing out a fact. Its a game and all is fair in that respect. If you have hacked someones web server, personally I would make sure you got the shock of your life.

On the other hand, if the person publishing this data HAD access to the account legit then fair play to them, thats ok.

Dont confuse the game with reality, unauthorised access to a private server is ILLEGAL in most countrys

Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:37:00 - [1135]
 

Much like, dg- , suas titan!

Valkorsia
Caldari
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:37:00 - [1136]
 

Edited by: Valkorsia on 05/02/2009 10:53:08

Originally by: ghost437
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Originally by: ghost437
Am i going to get flamed for pointing out that the account was used without permission due to haargoth being away at basic? So basically mittani found out that he could log into the guys account I assume probably shared his log in details in a PM on the forum like a bright newbie, posed as haargoth in IRC ( if it was a real spy he would have just told him the leadership password rather than mittani pretending to be haargoth to get it ) to get the leadership forum password.

So really there is high likelihood the alliance will be returned to bob, assets returned and **** replaced ( not sov levels as afaik they never replace those.

But good effort mittens :)


Be hard to do that since Haargoth was also on bob high command irc chat at the same time as well as all appropriate chats in game from reports.

I'm sure CCP is investigating to make sure. For now it looks legit though.


Once you have a forum log in you can access their IRC so he simply pretended to be Haargoth not particularly hard, " his mic was broken " so no voice verification for leadership password.

Not really a big deal I for one dont give a **** and find it amusing that it was BNC that it happened to!

Also amusing that mittani claims he went to IGNE due to the fact its one of the ****test corps in goonswarm so they can play up the " IGNE IS BETTER THAN BOB " line!


Your dentist just called. The appointment has been cancelled Wink

Ferocitana
Gallente
Ars ex Discordia
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:37:00 - [1137]
 

Originally by: shamai
In all seriousness, if there has been unauthorised access to their forums I would strongly suggest they take it up legally.

Eve might be a game, but breaking into someones web servers is a criminal offence..whether you have the password or not is irrelivant

see how funny you find that when your stood up in court


They have a forum, they press a button to accept you into their forum.
admins on forum is responsible, good luck to get anything out of some court. they will end up with a bill they have to pay themselves.

D4rkF4lcon
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:37:00 - [1138]
 

Originally by: shamai
In all seriousness, if there has been unauthorised access to their forums I would strongly suggest they take it up legally.

Eve might be a game, but breaking into someones web servers is a criminal offence..whether you have the password or not is irrelivant

see how funny you find that when your stood up in court


Not much the U.S. court system will do tbh.

Foofski
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:38:00 - [1139]
 

Originally by: Aaron Static
Originally by: ghost437
IGNE IS BETTER THAN BOB


quotin dis

Don ZOLA
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.02.05 10:38:00 - [1140]
 

Originally by: Deltronious
Originally by: Don ZOLA
Edited by: Don ZOLA on 05/02/2009 10:27:37
Originally by: Deltronious
Shocked but Not impressed.
Bob will re-form and be stronger than ever I predict. I would happily join them in the fight against anyone who resorts to this kind of tactic to win. I would suggest there would be many others who feel the same.
After all what is an alliance but the co-operation of the corporations involved. Yes this will be painful, yes this will provide a weakness that could be exploited but you can't say that "tafkab" will simply roll over and die.




will they kill goons also? cmon, your nose cant get any browner....

how does qualify as brownnosing any more than your comment is brownnosing goons?

edit : typos :/



goons disbanded bob and thats a fact. bob earned that for backstabbing plenty of others and metagaming themselves. ie what goes around comes around.

thats about my comments. about your comments :

bob will not be stronger then ever when they get back...IF they get back... Bob would use this tactic themselves aswell.

so im posting accurate facts while you are posting your wishes and empty assumptions. there aint santa claus mate.


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