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Arte
The Darkness Within
Posted - 2009.02.05 23:23:00 - [511]
 

Originally by: Ydyp Ieva
Oh blasted just that I don't have many skills left that trains under 24 hours Shocked

Guess I'll have to half finish training on most to even fill a queue. But this 24 hours is great, however doesn't solve the problem of people taking holidays and go on travels for 3-4 weeks. So perhaps an addition instead of the 24 hours, make us able to queue around max 5 skills even if they exceed the 24 hours.

Personally I'd like to see a longer period too, say 3 days with unlimited skills in the queue, or up to a week with a max of 2 skills in the queue. (a sliding scale)
I'll take the compromise. Live in hope that maybe they will bend a little and compromise further, I very much doubt it though.

tekpede
Posted - 2009.02.05 23:28:00 - [512]
 

Do a little dance, make a little love

Gekkoh
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.02.05 23:58:00 - [513]
 

Finally! Thank you!

One change please: FORTY EIGHT HOURS!

There are days where I'm not around to login, but I want to train a bunch of shorter skills (and short means < 2 days to me).

Zakurai
Caldari
Posted - 2009.02.05 23:59:00 - [514]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
YES, OMG11!!!11CCP WeLovesyou7!!Thx!ByeKissesHUgs


Woot, time to train up my two other chars that are dead weight to my account!

Gekkoh
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.02.06 00:17:00 - [515]
 

Originally by: Kary Tamona
Edited by: Kary Tamona on 05/02/2009 10:42:23
Thanks CCP for making my life easier.

As the girlfriend of a hopelessly Eve hooked player, this AWESOME feature will stop:


- killing our fun when the alarm stars beeping while we are having some ...yeah, fun. (His character lost quite some training time the ONE time it happened, as I refused to let him go and he forgot completely about the stupid skill when I was done wit him.)

As we say in Spanish, un millon de gracias CCP. De corazón.
Gracias, gracias, gracias, gracias, gracias, gracias, gracias, gracias,


Good point! To all those who are against this (all 5 of you), just think of all the nookie NOT having this feature has caused to be lost over the years.

Of course, you could make a strong argument that the actual playing of Eve takes up even more time, and causes even more global nookie hours to be lost...

hmm... maybe Eve is really a covert attempt at population control?

Thorson Wiles
Minmatar
M3 Co-Op
Posted - 2009.02.06 00:24:00 - [516]
 

I love the idea of the training queue, and have posted some suggestions before on the Features & Ideas Discussions forum. With over 21m SP, there are still many skills that I need to backfill that this will help greatly with. While I think that more than 24 hours would be better, I will not whine for it.

Thanks CCP.

x psy
Posted - 2009.02.06 00:36:00 - [517]
 

YES, OMG11!!!11CCP WeLovesyou7!!Thx!ByeKissesHUgs´

Masazak
Posted - 2009.02.06 01:34:00 - [518]
 

Originally by: It doesn't matter who said this
All you people whining:
Be happy this is even implemented!


This thread is for feedback to the devs about this (see quote below from the dev blog), so people doing so are not whining. Any development process that does not seek feedback from the actual users is bad, so good job with this CCP.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=621
"We´d appreciate any feedback you have on the skill queue and other ways to help you manage your skills."

DHU InMe
Gallente
Corsairs Inc.
The Spire Collective
Posted - 2009.02.06 02:14:00 - [519]
 

OMGNeutral OMGConfused OMGEmbarassed

IdeaSKILL QUEUEIdea

ShockedOMG !!Rolling Eyes

PingKiller
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.06 03:10:00 - [520]
 

Edited by: PingKiller on 06/02/2009 03:12:35
very nice that it still comes into eve, even if some years (for myself) to late.
here some of my thoughts after reading all pages:

- no queue for trials at all

- 24hrs are nice for short skills

- unlimited skills within 24hrs OR 1x longer as 24hrs + 1 following skill

- allow player to add bought skillbooks, into character sheet or queue, as lvl0

- only allow lvl0 skills to add into queue if pre-requests fit

my thoughts, my 2 cents...
Ping

Slinkus Gallentus
Gallente
Lysergic Spacetime Dimension
Posted - 2009.02.06 04:01:00 - [521]
 

Why should there be any time limit on it at all? Don't make sense to me.

CCPs "reasoning" that they want people to log in specious. If people log in or not they still get paid, and people will log in when/if they want to play anyway. It's not up to CCP to tell people when they should log in to play or not. That's individual choice.

All the skill queue does is stop it being an incovenience when you either cannot be around or you're in bed asleep (and yes, some us do sleep occasionally).

So do us all a favour CCP, forget the time limit BS, please.

Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
Posted - 2009.02.06 04:30:00 - [522]
 

Originally by: Slinkus Gallentus
Why should there be any time limit on it at all? Don't make sense to me.

CCPs "reasoning" that they want people to log in specious. If people log in or not they still get paid, and people will log in when/if they want to play anyway. It's not up to CCP to tell people when they should log in to play or not. That's individual choice.

All the skill queue does is stop it being an incovenience when you either cannot be around or you're in bed asleep (and yes, some us do sleep occasionally).

So do us all a favour CCP, forget the time limit BS, please.



Isk sellers dont need more help than they currently already have. They already done banned alot of things from newbies becuase of isk sellers.

Warp Knight
Caldari
Wise Guys
Exquisite Malevolence
Posted - 2009.02.06 05:08:00 - [523]
 

CCP - You... are... THE GREATEST GAME DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have my membership for life. Thank you for being awesome. Thank you for the skill queue. YARRRR!!RazzVery HappyShocked

Tibi
Zoners
Posted - 2009.02.06 06:57:00 - [524]
 

Edited by: Tibi on 06/02/2009 07:04:00

Originally by: 'Eris Discordia'
While it´s cool that you can advance your character when you are offline, we did worry that if we introduced a skill queue some players might just set a queue for a year and become less active in EVE. That´s not what a massively multiplayer ONLINE game is about. EVE is a social game and we want you exposed to other players so you can start making legends out of you or corporation and strive for domination. A long abstinence from EVE would ruin this for us.


Why the hell do you care about it? If I pay you $$$ to play EVE it's my business how i spend my playtime in EVE as long as it doesnt violate EULA. If you can give me a year long skilling queues so much the better.

After playing five years this game I'm pretty much used to waiting a few months till i get desirbale skills up to higher level + getting some more free time to immerse into eve again before I decide to plunge into EVE universe for another period of 2-4 weeks again.

It's not like we have ghost training anymore that you can set 1 year long queue and unsubscribe!

T.

shado20
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.02.06 07:46:00 - [525]
 

Originally by: Caiman Graystock
24 hours is more than enough. For those complaining about the time... you've coped fine so far without ANY queue. This addition doesn't take anything away from you.


its not a matter of copeing with or without it, i have wished for this for over 5 years now.
now that the ghost training is suposed to be stoped and this game is so heavy in needing skills to do anything, also i am a paying custumer, if i setup my toon to train up skill for the next 3 years without loging in what dose CCP cair as i am still paying the account. i can setup a 30 day skill and not log in for 30 days and no one cairs about that! but we have a problem with being able to queue more than a 24h time frame?!?!?!

i do log in almost every day and play for over 6h at a time. i would like to be able to setup a skill set for a long time and forget about it and jest play. as it is now, i have EVEMon emailing my cell phone everytime i finish a skill. with 4 accounts its getting old fast.

FireFoxx80
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2009.02.06 08:59:00 - [526]
 

Originally by: Tibi
Why the hell do you care about it? If I pay you $$$ to play EVE it's my business how i spend my playtime in EVE as long as it doesnt violate EULA. If you can give me a year long skilling queues so much the better.

After playing five years this game I'm pretty much used to waiting a few months till i get desirbale skills up to higher level + getting some more free time to immerse into eve again before I decide to plunge into EVE universe for another period of 2-4 weeks again.


Fail TBH. Dude, it's like $15 a month.

Tesma Valdir
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.02.06 08:59:00 - [527]
 

IMHO, this is one of the most important improvements of EVE to come in 2009. Moreover, I think it's quite a good compromise between comfort (for casual gamers) and the restraint to be online in order to advance in game. Well done, CCP! (Although I feel that it took you way too long to figure out this simple and often proposed solution.)


GyokZoli
Caldari
Sanctum of Citizens
Posted - 2009.02.06 09:01:00 - [528]
 

First, thank you CCP for the queue! It is really awesome!

And now, here is the solution for training the new skills:

Make the skill queue working like a container for skillbooks, so we can put any skillbook there which we want to start training for. This eliminates the problem with skill having prerequisites which we cannot put into the queue before we finish learning all prereqs.

Also it would be nice to have a counter which show us the remaining working time of the queue (how much time remains from the 24 hours), so we would know when we must enter and change to queue again. Anyway I think just logging into the game must reset this counter, so this way we don't need to manipulate the queue every day, we can just set up a long time learning plan without worries (but we still have to login for it to work).

Ravenja
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.02.06 09:38:00 - [529]
 

24h is good, you get 90% of the benefit and avoid the downsides (i.e. people stopping to log on).

Cool

Tibi
Zoners
Posted - 2009.02.06 09:40:00 - [530]
 

Originally by: FireFoxx80


Fail TBH. Dude, it's like $15 a month.


I could copy paste the entire price list including ETCs for European and USA currencies.
My point wasn't about the amount of [insert currency] per [insert time interval].

I pay for EVE game time with the amount of currency that CCP wants so what i do with that game time is my business (unless as stated I violate EULA).
If i want to train skills only and I have a queue that helps me ,then Eris' argument fails epicly where I quoted her.

T.

Taradis
Amarr
The Imperial Assassins
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2009.02.06 09:42:00 - [531]
 

YAY!!!!!!

Aerouge Gendai
Caldari
Deep Exploration Projects and Programs
Posted - 2009.02.06 10:35:00 - [532]
 

Already late, but still:

‘ YES, OMG11!!!11CCP WeLovesyou7!!Thx!ByeKissesHUgs´.

Great Idea. Any dates when it´s coming though?

Gusman
Caldari
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.02.06 10:58:00 - [533]
 

THANK YOU CCP Very Happy
Its like christmas allover...fivetimes. Been playing since 2003 and...(crying)...now i can sleep well during nights...family will rejoice...so much feelings pouring out.

/Gussy


Silver Fusion
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.02.06 11:02:00 - [534]
 

Originally by: Hayman Wakefield
3/10

The 24 hours is too limiting, it should be as many as you can in a 24 hour period or just pick 1 to start when you've finished. No use to me unless I can use it during times when I'm on holiday.

Rolling Eyes


Slinkus Gallentus
Gallente
Lysergic Spacetime Dimension
Posted - 2009.02.06 11:06:00 - [535]
 

Originally by: Nova Fox
Isk sellers dont need more help than they currently already have. They already done banned alot of things from newbies becuase of isk sellers.


What the hell has ISK sellers got to do with how I play the game? If I want to play I log on. If I don't what to play then I don't. Skill queueing won't change that and limiting the skill queue to 24 hours wont change that either.

So, what the hell are you babbling on about?

Slinkus Gallentus
Gallente
Lysergic Spacetime Dimension
Posted - 2009.02.06 11:10:00 - [536]
 

Originally by: FireFoxx80
Fail TBH. Dude, it's like $15 a month.


Err, "Dude", it's HIS money, not yours. He can play the game anyway he wants within the rules. It ain't up to you or CCP when he logs in or don't.

If there's a fail here it's you lapping at CCPs ass.

Mal Lokrano
Gallente
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2009.02.06 11:12:00 - [537]
 

I am really happy with this addon.

I would love to see it be a little longer, but heck I'll take a 24 hour one any day.

good job CCP! Very Happy

Vim
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2009.02.06 11:24:00 - [538]
 

the land of ice
bringer of flowery news
happy are we
?

IceEclipse
Posted - 2009.02.06 12:08:00 - [539]
 

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=4fc80fd68204d605d956df2962098fcbb7d64f12903a5d6b5621d66e282a0ee8

StickyFingerz
Dark Materials
Posted - 2009.02.06 12:56:00 - [540]
 

there are WAY to meany 1 day 4 hour skills (or so) for this to be usefull to anyone but the newest of n00bs.

way to go ccp.


:/



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