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WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
Posted - 2009.02.03 17:17:00 - [121]
 

Lol.

So lets see what we've established:

1: Windows is just as customizable as Linux. (Check the posted images)
2: Linux is harder to support and more expensive to support.
3: You can walk into a store buy an app and install on windows without pulling your hair out for hours and/or waiting months for this new software to be compatible with linux.
4: Linux is just as susceptible to virus's (200+ virus targeting linux OS) but has less because it's not as much of a target.
5: If I'm having problems with windows I can call any of my friends and ask for help. With linux I better hope to god I know someone and he's willing to help me.

that about sum it up?

K. sticking to windows it is

Corwain
Posted - 2009.02.03 17:25:00 - [122]
 

Edited by: Corwain on 03/02/2009 17:25:45
First off, good job restating your argument, but no facts have been brought up to support it.

I never said you couldn't customize the Windows desktop, but its always some 3rd party programs that do it and mess up the normal OS functionality while they're at it.

Finally, I was never trying to convince you to switch. Personally I think you and Microsoft deserve each other. I was simply dispelling these weird myths people have about Linux because they've only ever seen the green text command line in movies from the 80s and 90s.


WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
Posted - 2009.02.03 17:31:00 - [123]
 

Originally by: Corwain
Edited by: Corwain on 03/02/2009 17:25:45
First off, good job restating your argument, but no facts have been brought up to support it.

I never said you couldn't customize the Windows desktop, but its always some 3rd party programs that do it and mess up the normal OS functionality while they're at it.

Finally, I was never trying to convince you to switch. Personally I think you and Microsoft deserve each other. I was simply dispelling these weird myths people have about Linux because they've only ever seen the green text command line in movies from the 80s and 90s.




you don't need third party anything, have you even tried vista?


Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Posted - 2009.02.03 17:56:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Corwain
Edited by: Corwain on 02/02/2009 19:20:09
Originally by: WarlockX
Edited by: WarlockX on 02/02/2009 19:07:34
If anything linux should support directx. not CCP support linux.


Linux can't support DirectX due to Copyright issues. Microsoft isn't just gonna go "sure you can integrate out graphics framework into your operating system. I mean it's not like you're currently our most serious competitor."

I've played plenty of Linux games with great graphics and you have no idea how easy it is to get programs for Linux. Imagine if Windows Update didn't just update your operating system but actually allowed you to update any one of your programs and search a database of all kinds of programs. Oh, and didn't rely on a web browser.

apt-get and its frontends > GOD.

And Linux is mainstream nowadays.


Now I am aware of the relationship between MAC OS and Linux, but I still think it would be fairer to say that MAC OS X is Window's biggest competitor--not Linux.

-K

Atnal
Whats Wrong With This
Posted - 2009.02.03 18:05:00 - [125]
 

To be a little off topic I don't think Linux overall as a desktop OS is ready for mass consumption. I mean if you look at some distro's like Ubuntu and Suse they work pretty well for the inexperienced user, but for most of them you have to know how the system works. It's not like Windows or Mac where it hand holds you through setting stuff up. I know from my experience with Linux I'm always having to go through the ubuntuforums.com or other places to find out how this person got his dual screen setup to work with Compiz Fusion.

For me EVE runs fine on Windows Vista w/o problems so I'm not going to stress myself getting it to work with my other ubuntu install. I've tried the Linux EVE client but since I've had trouble getting it to display on one monitor with my compiz dual screen setup I don't brother with it anymore. If I wanted to run the EVE client on Linux I'd fire up Virtualbox and install it there.

Corwain
Posted - 2009.02.03 18:12:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: WarlockX
you don't need third party anything, have you even tried vista?


I never bothered to switch to Vista back when I was running Windows as everyone that switched reported tons of problems, but I did run windows from when Win 3.0 was released all the way through XP. I skipped over the Win 2000 release though.

Khorkrak
Gallente
Solacarium
Posted - 2009.02.03 18:42:00 - [127]
 

Well surprisingly I learned something through these posts in that although rare there have been and are a few viruses that have taken advantage of a vulnerability in some daemon running on Linux in the past such as Apache. And I also found an excellent free anti-virus pkg too which I'll be trying out tonight. So yep I was wrong there.

Still though I want to be able to play EVE without kookiness while connected to work over vpn Very Happy. Connecting through windows isn't permitted cause it's just too prone to viruses regardless. I've found though that when minimizing EVE (premium version) to perhaps edit some python in emacs for example that after doing this a few times my frame rate often drops to 0.5 FPS from having been at 60 - 80 FPS resulting in worse than slide show performance which doesn't ever seem to recover without killing the winexe instance and starting EVE back up. Has anyone else experienced this?


Mes Ren
No Trademark
Posted - 2009.02.03 18:47:00 - [128]
 

This is a small side track from the original topic, but lets face it, the original topic was side tracked some time ago. In the Linux section of the forums, I am collecting data on the number of accounts being run under Linux. I would appreciate it if Linux users would visit the section and post in the thread.

Thank You.

Glengrant
Beyond Limited
Posted - 2009.02.03 19:00:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: WarlockX

So lets see what we've established:



My turn to LOL. :-)

Originally by: WarlockX

1: Windows is just as customizable as Linux. (Check the posted images)


Yup. Agreed.

Originally by: WarlockX
2: Linux is harder to support and more expensive to support.


Partial agreement. Wrong in many cases. It depends very much on what you use it for.
Also - insofar as support hours are more expensive we're talking 20% - not 2000%.

For simple everyday use with browser, word processor, mail and perhaps IM chat etc... you don't usually need tech support (beyond installation) in either case and for windows you have to figure annual extra cost for anti-virus measures. Plus updates for windows and possibly Office.

Originally by: WarlockX
3: You can walk into a store buy an app and install on windows without pulling your hair out for hours and/or waiting months for this new software to be compatible with linux.


Let's say I agree. But this mostly applies to games and perhaps CS4/Photoshop if you need that.
In either case *I* wouldn't recommend Linux to gamers at this point.

But for linux you usually don't have to bother to got to a shop on the first place.
You have a large and legal selection of roughly 20k software packages - ok mostly tools and libs - let's say hundreds of apps available in repo. A few clicks and a minute of downloading and you have a ready to use application.
If you got your linux setup experience in the 90s you're very much outdated.

Originally by: WarlockX
4: Linux is just as susceptible to virus's (200+ virus targeting linux OS) but has less because it's not as much of a target.


ROTFL
"just as susceptible" - you can't be serious.
I'm not denying that Linux has exploitable flaws - *all* software has that.

But Linux is also safer by design. MS is trying to catch up - especially with Vista. They are moving away from admin rights for everything and everybody. There's increasingly better distinction between programs and data than it used to be. But Vista is a flop in the market and UAC often annoys people and one of the most given advices amongst Vista users is to switch it off to have less trouble.

Open source apps from a central repo are much safer overall than closed source apps from a variety of sources.

Sure - part of the higher security is being less of a target. So what - for now that does mean it's even safer.

And Linux (plus FF, OO, etc...) has a much better track record of quickly closing severe and critical bugs than windows/IE. IE 6 had known severe bugs open for freakin *years*. (no wonder - as IE dev came to a halt until FF forced MS to get devs on IE again)

Originally by: WarlockX
5: If I'm having problems with windows I can call any of my friends and ask for help. With linux I better hope to god I know someone and he's willing to help me.


A bit exaggerated but granted - in general you'll still have more windows geeks around you than linux geeks.

Originally by: WarlockX
K. sticking to windows it is



It's fine (for me at least) that you stick with windows. As I said I'm *not* recommending Linux to gamers in general at this point. That will be - at least - a couple more years.

I'm not trying to make you switch OS - just shooting silly FUD ballons down. ;-)

Mithos Victus
Aurelius Federation
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2009.02.03 19:10:00 - [130]
 

So to sum it up, CCP devoted exactly the amount of time by percentage to Linux as there are Linux users of EVE.

So, how is this unfair? You got exactly the amount of attention as you deserve, just like everyone else.

Get over it. YARRRR!!

Glengrant
Beyond Limited
Posted - 2009.02.03 19:13:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: WarlockX

you don't need third party anything, have you even tried vista?



Vista is pathetic. 6 years and billions of dollars only to give users an expensive upgrade that would increase security a bit - except for all those people who switch UAC off because it annoyed them and some nice but primitive graphics effects. Out of the box the look & feel of Vista is *not* very configurable (beyond changing wallpaper and screensaver).

No wonder it flopped. Big business is skipping Vista and waiting for W7 - which is why MS is so busy pushing it.
MS had to prolong XP several times already because Dell and HP couldn't sell Vista and without XP MS would have no presence on the Netbook market at all.
The only reason Vista is getting any visible market share at all is regular users getting it (no choice) on newly bought boxes. There are plenty regular users unhappy with it who would love to get XP instead (resistence to change applies to windows as much as to Linux).

It's far behind both Mac and Linux in that (cool effects) regard.

XP/Vista *can* be pimped up by installing a variety of 3rd party extensions - which is why I agree that windows is probably no less configurable than Linux.

I use Vista daily at work.

Glengrant
Beyond Limited
Posted - 2009.02.03 19:34:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Par'Gellen

Originally by: Glengrant
don't tell me you are using IE still - that would be crazy
Every single day with no problems. How exactly is this crazy?


Because the ActiveX part of IE is the most effective and efficient malware magnet in the history of software.
I guess you switched that off. And MS has been restricting it recently. So you profit from FF even though you don't use it.

MS had - no joke - disbanded the dedicated IE team (free component that doesn't make money - why pay for development when the competition is dead?). Patching it - let alone adding features was an afterthought done by devs who were mostly busy doing something else.

The success of FF forced MS to put in a fresh team and develop IE 7 and now 8.

Given that millions of regular users had to download a new browser when IE was already there tells us something about how widespread disgust of IE was/is. Market share of FF is now > 20% - and rising. IE used to be at > 95 - now below 70 (Safari is also growing fast). That's general market figures. When you look at browser statistics of tech sites IE is already often a minority browser. You're the first EVE player I met in ages that uses IE.

Originally by: Glengrant
Also no annoying product differentiation between Basic, Home Premium, Office, Ultimate.
Have you looked at the flavors of Linux lately? I get confused just trying to pronounce them.


There's only a handfull that have a real desktop presence (Suse, Fedora/RH, Mandriva and Ubuntu). And to the recent expansion of Linux desktop adoption Ubuntu is almost synonymous with Linux. So in practice there is 1.

That there are hundreds of mostly obscure other distros is irrelevant to a regular user. You can find them if you want/need them.

Par'Gellen
Gallente
Neon Cranium
Posted - 2009.02.03 20:11:00 - [133]
 

I've used IE since it was released in the 90's (was using Netscape Navigator before that and hated it like poison). I've never had an issue with it. Ever. No malware, no drive-by virus, nothing, zip, zilch, nada.

It's called using your noggin and keeping it updated. Firefox is no different. Exploits for it have been found and plugged. Same as IE.

Now don't get me wrong, I've used Firefox. It's not bad. I just prefer IE and don't care that it was made by Microsoft just because it's popular to hate them.

Glengrant
Beyond Limited
Posted - 2009.02.03 20:53:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Par'Gellen
I've used IE since it was released in the 90's (was using Netscape Navigator before that and hated it like poison).


So far I'm with you. I didn't like Netscape much - felt clunky and overloaded to me.

I looked at IE first at version 2 and preferred it by version 3. By version 4 IE had fully caught up in functionality and started to leave Netscape behind.
At that point IE was the better browser IMHO and both were equally guilty of introducing non-standard features.

But by v 6 IE was terrible, increasingly outdated and an annoyance for web developers. It's stranglehold on the browser market was harming the industry.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
I've never had an issue with it. Ever. No malware, no drive-by virus, nothing, zip, zilch, nada.
Good.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
It's called using your noggin and keeping it updated.


Keeping it updated was not enough. You also had to be lucky not to stumble on the wrong site while browsing and be careful with your settings.
Plenty of people got malware by drive-by surfing.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
Firefox is no different. Exploits for it have been found and plugged. Same as IE.


Of course FF is also vulnerable. There is no safe and perfect software.
But it's not the same.
Mozilla is faster in patching bugs and its bugs tend to be less severe than IEs in general.
With v 7 and 8 MS has begun to catch up though.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
... and don't care that it was made by Microsoft just because it's popular to hate them.


No worries - I don't hate them either.

Par'Gellen
Gallente
Neon Cranium
Posted - 2009.02.03 21:47:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Glengrant
But by v 6 IE was terrible, increasingly outdated and an annoyance for web developers. It's stranglehold on the browser market was harming the industry.
As a web developer myself (ASP/VB.NET) I'm not sure that is an accurate statement. We ran Firefox and IE6 together in our production environment and I had to fight with Firefox a lot more than IE6. In fact I never remember having any trouble with IE6 even in instances where Firefox wouldn't display the page correctly at all. This was a couple of years ago though so maybe the guys at Firefox have gotten things straight by now. I dunno. I don't develop with it in mind or follow their progress anymore.
Originally by: Glengrant
Keeping it updated was not enough. You also had to be lucky not to stumble on the wrong site while browsing and be careful with your settings. Plenty of people got malware by drive-by surfing.
My experience with end-users is more like "My computer is borked.", "Well did you click yes on anything while browsing the web?", "Of course. Oh yeah it said something about installing something... Should I not have done that?" *facepalm* Blaming this on IE is a bit misplaced. I blame the end-user. If they can't be arsed to pay attention to what's going on they don't deserve to use a computer.
Originally by: Glengrant
Mozilla is faster in patching bugs and its bugs tend to be less severe than IEs in general.
I don't know if I would take it that far. I've seen bad on both sides, IE just gets more press since it's Microsoft and it's fun to poke the gorilla.
Originally by: Glengrant
No worries - I don't hate them either.
My bad. Didn't mean to imply it. Just meant it in general.

Flesh Eater
Posted - 2009.02.03 22:44:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: Flesh Eater on 03/02/2009 22:46:15
Edited by: Flesh Eater on 03/02/2009 22:45:45
Originally by: Par'Gellen
Originally by: Glengrant
But by v 6 IE was terrible, increasingly outdated and an annoyance for web developers. It's stranglehold on the browser market was harming the industry.
As a web developer myself (ASP/VB.NET) I'm not sure that is an accurate statement. We ran Firefox and IE6 together in our production environment and I had to fight with Firefox a lot more than IE6. In fact I never remember having any trouble with IE6 even in instances where Firefox wouldn't display the page correctly at all. This was a couple of years ago though so maybe the guys at Firefox have gotten things straight by now. I dunno. I don't develop with it in mind or follow their progress anymore.



Wow...you develop using microsoft's tools and libraries and you find that your web pages didn't work that well with Firefox? Gee...I wonder why not...

Firefox has always been more standards compliant than IE, to this day there are parts of HTML that the W3C have specified that IE doesn't support. Things like SVG are not supported by IE, so rendered useless...

BTW do you think anyone will take you seriously when you "I don't develop with it (firefox) in mind"? I went to ING Insurance here in Australia to buy insurance - the site only worked in IE - guess what - I bought my insurance elsewhere. Idiots like you directly lost them money.

Also, I would like to hear both these things in a post "I have tried a current release of Linux, like Ubuntu 8.xx+" and "Linux is not mainstream". Again guess what - noone would post that unless they are lying or are a moron. My parents don't really know Windows XP that well, I changed it to Ubuntu 8.10 and they find it easier to use.

Glengrant
Beyond Limited
Posted - 2009.02.03 23:33:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Par'Gellen
As a web developer myself (ASP/VB.NET) I'm not sure that is an accurate statement. We ran Firefox and IE6 together in our production environment and I had to fight with Firefox a lot more than IE6.


Ahem. I never claimed that IE had trouble displaying pages designed especially for IE using proprietory extensions and bug workarounds with ASP/VB.NET and IIS.
IE 8 is the first version that's getting close to pass the ACID2 test for standards compliance.
Even FF failed that until v3 - though it came much closer than IE. IIRC only Opera (?) passed the test earlier.

Anyway the sad dark ages of web sites having IE specific pages is mostly over. FFs market share became too big to ignore. Nowadays we usually get standards compliant pages that work fine with standard compliant browsers (even IE is getting there now - partly thanks to pressure from FF, partly from the exploding mobile browsing market - i.e. iPhone).

Originally by: Par'Gellen
In fact I never remember having any trouble with IE6 even in instances where Firefox wouldn't display the page correctly at all.


Those pages that FF had trouble displaying? That was non-standard IE hacks that only worked in IE. FF and Opera even implemented some of the crap IE extensions so as to make surfing easier for users.

Why is it a bad thing that IE could dictate extensions to the web? Because it kills competition and puts control of the internet in to the hand of a single corporation.
And when that corporation had won the first browser war - it stopped developing its browser. They didn't even bother to fix glaring and well known security holes. I remember rerading about an IE patch a year or so ago that patched a severe fault after roughly 1.5 years.

That shiny new versions 7 and 8 - they only exist at this time because FF kicked MS out of its slumber - real hard.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
This was a couple of years ago though so maybe the guys at Firefox have gotten things straight by now. I dunno.


Ahem. Those pages got fixed and are W3C standards compliant now. Sometimes it's because FF(Gecko), Opera and Safari(WebKit) implemented dirty extensions to tolerate IE hacks.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
I don't develop with it in mind or follow their progress anymore.


A web developer not using FF + Firebug extension + possibly web developer toolbar and YSlow and other nice productivity extensions? Wow.
IIRC correctly there is something similar to Firebug available for IE now so there's hope for you - but you missed out in the past.
Among the web developers I know (many - I work in software development) FF has reached 100% market penetration. As a rule of thumb IEs market share is the inverse of the tech knowledge of the user.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
My experience with end-users is more like "My computer is borked.", "Well did you click yes on anything while browsing the web?", "Of course. Oh yeah it said something about installing something... Should I not have done that?" *facepalm* Blaming this on IE is a bit misplaced.


Yes - users clicking around blindly was the main reason for computers getting infected with malware. But even then MS shares some blame for making it too easy for malware.

*But* there were security flaws in ActiveX that meant that browsing to a prepared page was enough. No special user interaction needed. Just going to the page would bring crap on your machine.

Though you didn't need to surf to get crap. A few years ago a university published a study. A Windows, a mac and a Linux machine - no firewall - just install and connect to web. Windows machine was wormed in less than an hour.

Originally by: Par'Gellen
Originally by: Glengrant
Mozilla is faster in patching bugs and its bugs tend to be less severe than IEs in general.
I don't know if I would take it that far.


Don't believe me. Feel free to google it. But don't fall for the paid for MS propaganda regarding raw numbers - look at severity and time to fix severe bugs.


Par'Gellen
Gallente
Neon Cranium
Posted - 2009.02.04 00:13:00 - [138]
 

My replies were eaten by the forum GRRRR! I'm not typing all that again. Lets just say Rolling Eyes and we're done. I have better things to do. Ta.

Glengrant
Beyond Limited
Posted - 2009.02.04 00:19:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Par'Gellen
My replies were eaten by the forum GRRRR! I'm not typing all that again. Lets just say Rolling Eyes and we're done. I have better things to do. Ta.


o/

:-)

p.s. Yeah - the message eating forum gremlin is evil and got me too in the past.
I now copy to clipboard occasionally on long replies. But most of the time [alt]+[left] is enough to get back to the open form with my text.

Concorduck
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.04 00:33:00 - [140]
 

TL;DR ->

Linux is not for gaming
Windows sucks at security levels
FreeBSD...lol wut

PARD0
Minmatar
Redshift Srl
Posted - 2009.02.04 01:48:00 - [141]
 

I'm a Linux nerd, but I think that nowadays we are lucky enough to have some new games on the PC at all. The (M$)Xbox is devouring the market, so I don't complain anymoar. Keeping a second PC with Windoze is not that bad. I'm saving up all the moaning and *****ing for when we'll be forced to use xboxes and Live (latest MS plan to own the internets, attempt no.49568933) for every new game.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2009.02.04 01:57:00 - [142]
 

lollerskates at the OS willy waving going on here.

Windows is for games
*nix is for work

Where these 'sets' converge, they usually do an 'acceptable' job, but far worse than the real thing.

Saying otherwise just makes you look like a loony

So we are on a GAME FORUM. I wonder who is going to shake their willies the hardest?

Get yourself onto an embedded software forum for low powered devices and see who's shaking it like Elvis now.

kudos to those that dispelled all the FUD around DirectX and OpenGL. Having used both for comparison of my final year project for my BSc in Comp Sci, I will add that I can see the attraction of DirectX, but seriously its like dating the ugly chick as she'll let you drive her porche.

Scifi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.02.04 03:59:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Spurty
lollerskates at the OS willy waving going on here.

Windows is for games
*nix is for work

Where these 'sets' converge, they usually do an 'acceptable' job, but far worse than the real thing.

Saying otherwise just makes you look like a loony

So we are on a GAME FORUM. I wonder who is going to shake their willies the hardest?



Pff I don't have to shake my willy. I just let it out and the entire world trembles around me.

I forgot to quote the post but I agree with whoever said that basically the eve linux client was a half-ass botch job on the part of transgaming. Wine runs premium much much better then the official client runs in classic. Only reason I keep the official client installed is for an emergency when wine screws something up bad enough to make the game unplayable.

Frug
Omega Wing
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2009.02.04 04:23:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: WarlockX

4: Linux is just as susceptible to virus's (200+ virus targeting linux OS) but has less because it's not as much of a target.



Everything you say is accurate but this, which shows your total ignorance regarding the fundamental differences between the two operating systems.


Semkhet
Dark Tornado
Ethereal Dawn
Posted - 2009.02.04 07:18:00 - [145]
 

Just FYI, Geniuses, realms where decisions which affect you (like it or not) are shifting exponentially to Asia. MS has posted a loss for the first time of its history, will scrap Flight Simulator, and IBM has begun offering jobs to former US employees in Russia, India, Brazil IF they relocate there and accept salaries according to LOCAL standards.

You lot will be in for a rather painful reality check concerning your beloved MS crappola these next years, since the governments of China, Russia, India, Brazil and other emergent heavy weights have all issued notifications to their entire apparatus to switch to open source software, with the obvious ramifications for the private industry as outsourced contractor.

In the case of Russia for example, the injunction to switch to open source has been notified from elementary schools all the way up to defense and airlines, and IBM has been able to lower its prices by a magnitude of 50% by deciding to ship some computer lines to Russia with Linux instead of MS stuff...

I was just laughing the other day to see that some Linux servers we operate haven't been rebooted since 6 (S I X) months despite being exposed on the net and having to perform complex real time services 24/24, while my associate handling a few customers still depending on MS apps is HAPPY when things work...

Future belongs to gaming consoles and real OS's. Hell, there's a reason why the automated docking software of the ISS is based on Linux, and last time I checked, going against the wildest expectations, these little buggers on Mars are still working ;)

Armoured Gamer
Gallente
Legion of EVE
The ENTITY.
Posted - 2009.02.04 07:21:00 - [146]
 

lol @ linux

Svedge
Posted - 2009.02.04 08:31:00 - [147]
 

Edited by: Svedge on 04/02/2009 08:31:54
To those who mock OpenGL, I would say "Think again!".

id Software's new engine Tech 5 uses OpenGL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219ohJZd8dI


Armoured Gamer
Gallente
Legion of EVE
The ENTITY.
Posted - 2009.02.04 08:35:00 - [148]
 

Edited by: Armoured Gamer on 04/02/2009 08:35:41
you obvisouly have seen the Agedya Tech Demo
look much better than t5

Sataya Arkoa
Posted - 2009.02.04 08:42:00 - [149]
 

Edited by: Sataya Arkoa on 04/02/2009 08:55:44

Originally by: Glengrant
Originally by: WarlockX

you don't need third party anything, have you even tried vista?



Vista is pathetic.

No wonder it flopped.


huh? Linux has 0.8% of the desktop and Vista has 23% of the desktop. Which one is the flop here? hmmm?

Go out and get yourself a decent gaming operating system if you want to play games ffs. Twisted Evil

Oh and on security I think you will find that Windows has less security vulnerabilities than Linux and bugs are fixed quicker.

Windows has 'fewer flaws' than Linux

"A tally of this year's security bulletins by www.vnunet.com found 43 flaws in Windows XP that had been patched, similar to Jones's estimates"

"Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 Workstation and Ubuntu Linux topped the list with roughly 170 and 150 vulnerabilities patched respectively."

Vista has fewer first-year vulnerabilities than any modern OS

Flesh Eater
Posted - 2009.02.04 09:17:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Sataya Arkoa
Edited by: Sataya Arkoa on 04/02/2009 08:55:44
Oh and on security I think you will find that Windows has less security vulnerabilities than Linux and bugs are fixed quicker.
Windows has 'fewer flaws' than Linux



LOL you're kidding, right?
That report came from none other than Microsoft.


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