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Posted - 2009.01.31 14:47:00 - [1]
 

Everyone’s favorite Web site is getting an upgrade! CCP CAPSLOCK gives us the lowdown on new improvements that are coming to eve-online.com. You can read about it in his latest blog here.

Hczer
Posted - 2009.01.31 14:49:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Hczer on 31/01/2009 14:48:55
Finally Laughing

Edit: First!

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2009.01.31 14:51:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: MotherMoon on 31/01/2009 14:54:29
real edit: so honestly how long until we see eve online.com premium?

Great to see a web team up and running. I hope you upgrade the forums too mabye?

with things like auto linking, auto quoting (so no more unintentional pyramid quoting) a better search function? (just link it to eve-search? come on someone did the work for you, use it!)


Aeo IV
Amarr
Xomic OmniCorporation
Posted - 2009.01.31 14:55:00 - [4]
 

Nice way to mess up a meme CCP.

Shame on you, lolcats everywhere are lol now.

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:01:00 - [5]
 

Would CCP Capslock care to tell us anything about himself, or herself, seeing as how he/she is still on his/her first day?

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:01:00 - [6]
 

Keeping old website and forum URLs working is absolutely essential, even if they're just backend redirects to the new page. There are loads of cases where websites have linked to something on the EVE website or forum and those links are part of what brings people to EVE. I know in my columna t massively.com I link to the forum on occasion and some forum threads are very high on google (e.g. google for EVE Triage). I just wanted to stress that.

DoctorDeath
Minmatar
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:03:00 - [7]
 

X-)
i foresee some Really nice stuff coming to eve's web site

and one of there days like the Fan Fest video was talking about..

Asagi Sandoval
Caldari
Snake Hive Technologies
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:05:00 - [8]
 

Nice, maybe finally the site will look more alive on the first page as it is on the forums. Sometimes there are absolutely no changes on the main page for weeks. Although this doesn't always bother me, a more... web 2.0 approach wouldn't hurt :P

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:38:00 - [9]
 

While you're at it, PLEASE :
* enable some form of persistant logged-in status (NOT make me push "log in" link since it's auto-logging-in-anyway)
* stop losing my session, ffs !
* add user options to remove the chronicles images from the right
* add user options to move the left-hand menu to the top or bottom

Raymon James
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:44:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Raymon James on 31/01/2009 15:48:50
I hate to say this but this blog is 1215% better than the previous blog! that said.. .. ..
Originally by: Akita T
While you're at it, PLEASE :
* enable some form of persistant logged-in status (NOT make me push "log in" link since it's auto-logging-in-anyway)
* stop losing my session, ffs !
* add user options to remove the chronicles images from the right
* add user options to move the left-hand menu to the top or bottom

to that I would love to add

* Keep the EVE websight unlinked from the EVE servers! its idiotic that when the game goes down for any reason so does the forum. Yes I know the forum posts asking "whens the server comeing back up" are annoying but on other games you could at least talk to the other people on the forums and catch up with whats going on elsewhere. heck that was half the fun of the downtime!

Fager
Caldari
5 Inch Incorporated
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:45:00 - [11]
 

Another note to the wishlist:


* A OP sign on the OP of the thread your in, so eachtime he is postin in his own thread there will be a sign of some sort around his name/picture. MMORPG.COM has this, and its a surprisingly neat feuture ugh. Especially for long threads.

AeonOfTime
Minmatar
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
Posted - 2009.01.31 15:57:00 - [12]
 

Are you planning to restore broken item database links too? For two years I have been linking items from my blog to the item database, and since the wiki went online those links are all dead.

I am sure I am not the only one with this issue, so I would like to know if you have anything planned to at least put a page up saying the item database has moved? Currently you just get a very pretty page not found message.

Example: Hacking (skill)

If this had to be the only issue I am allowed to raise in 2009, this would be it!

Can you imagine editing 2 years worth of blog posts? *faint*

CCP Mitnal


C C P
Posted - 2009.01.31 16:00:00 - [13]
 

Permission to sing boisterously sir?

Sarin Adler
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.31 16:20:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Sarin Adler on 31/01/2009 16:22:57
Integrate eve-wiki properlly while you're at it. And new forum software would be pure win.

Moar: remove outdated stuff: screenshots not showing ftl, useless item database, etc.

CCP Capslock


Amarr
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.31 16:26:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Would CCP Capslock care to tell us anything about himself, or herself, seeing as how he/she is still on his/her first day?


How embarassing Shocked I build the developer info feature and then forget to fill it in myself, I will put some stuff up asap
Wink

Originally by: Nyphur
Keeping old website and forum URLs working is absolutely essential, even if they're just backend redirects to the new page. There are loads of cases where websites have linked to something on the EVE website or forum and those links are part of what brings people to EVE. I know in my columna t massively.com I link to the forum on occasion and some forum threads are very high on google (e.g. google for EVE Triage). I just wanted to stress that.


We understand this and we are going to makesure that all the links etc still work and if any break we will do our best to setup redirects etc to ensure a painless transition.

Originally by: AeonOfTime
Are you planning to restore broken item database links too? For two years I have been linking items from my blog to the item database, and since the wiki went online those links are all dead.


The item database is alas gone, replaced by the incredibly sexy wiki. However I will look at putting a page up thats a little bit more gentle than a 404. Menu structure changes will also help with this I think.

Cheers ;)


Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2009.01.31 16:45:00 - [16]
 

@Capslock: So can we expect to see the forum look/code to change and features added? My main reason for this is obviously with the robot EVE-Search runs, as I would have to recode it to work with the new site if so?

CCP Capslock


Amarr
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.31 17:12:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Chribba
@Capslock: So can we expect to see the forum look/code to change and features added? My main reason for this is obviously with the robot EVE-Search runs, as I would have to recode it to work with the new site if so?


If any changes of this nature were to take place I will endeavour to inform the community well in advance so that excellent sites like EVE-Search can be updated.

That said, there shouldn't be anything in this batch of changes that you will have to worry about Cool

Red 7
Posted - 2009.01.31 17:34:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Red 7 on 31/01/2009 17:36:16
Edited by: Red 7 on 31/01/2009 17:35:31
Originally by: AeonOfTime
Are you planning to restore broken item database links too? For two years I have been linking items from my blog to the item database, and since the wiki went online those links are all dead.

I am sure I am not the only one with this issue, so I would like to know if you have anything planned to at least put a page up saying the item database has moved? Currently you just get a very pretty page not found message.

Example: Hacking (skill)

If this had to be the only issue I am allowed to raise in 2009, this would be it!

Can you imagine editing 2 years worth of blog posts? *faint*


If you have full control of your site template Aeon (so you could include some JS) then I have some JS that would probably fix those links for you. Drop me a mail in game.

@Caps you can catch the 404, parse the request URL and with a DB lookup redirect to the appropriate wiki page - just use the right header and it'll update the search engines also.

Namco
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2009.01.31 17:38:00 - [19]
 

NIT PICK:
Quote:
"[..] and will become true sub sites as a pose to copies of the main EVE site."

"as opposed to"

Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2009.01.31 17:43:00 - [20]
 

first page and about damm time =)



waytogo CAPLOCK

dont you feel like when you typing your name that your shouting at yourself ?

another question if i started to eat myself would i disappear or get fat ?

Captain Politics
The Scope
Posted - 2009.01.31 17:44:00 - [21]
 

Will this mean that the Screenshts and Art submission page will actually start working in a stable way ?

If this happens I will be truely Shocked...

Chuck Bricks
Posted - 2009.01.31 17:51:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: CCP Capslock
Originally by: Chribba
@Capslock: So can we expect to see the forum look/code to change and features added? My main reason for this is obviously with the robot EVE-Search runs, as I would have to recode it to work with the new site if so?


If any changes of this nature were to take place I will endeavour to inform the community well in advance so that excellent sites like EVE-Search can be updated.

No offence but how can you blatantly support a website plastered with RMT adverts? I know it's a very useful website but it was removed from your official fansite list for a reason.

Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.01.31 18:14:00 - [23]
 

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,


Drag the forums into the 21st century. I've been begging for this for years; no search function, no pm'ing, anarchistic layout on pages, EVERYTHING.


Please, something that would change my forum w***ing.

Admiral Frools
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.01.31 18:14:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Chuck Bricks
Originally by: CCP Capslock
Originally by: Chribba
@Capslock: So can we expect to see the forum look/code to change and features added? My main reason for this is obviously with the robot EVE-Search runs, as I would have to recode it to work with the new site if so?


If any changes of this nature were to take place I will endeavour to inform the community well in advance so that excellent sites like EVE-Search can be updated.

No offence but how can you blatantly support a website plastered with RMT adverts? I know it's a very useful website but it was removed from your official fansite list for a reason.


You should really educate yourself on the specifics of google adsense before making yourself look stupid Wink

Pretty much any eve related site with google ads on will suffer from RMT ads once in a while Confused

Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
Posted - 2009.01.31 19:18:00 - [25]
 

Does this mean COSMOS is close at hand? Very Happy

More details please!

Rex Lashar
Amarr
Posted - 2009.01.31 19:36:00 - [26]
 

INFO ON COSMOS PLS

ESPECIALLY IF IT HAS:

- CORP/ALLIANCE FORUMS
- CORP CHAT/EVEMAIL API
- LOLLERSKITTLES WITH LUEB

Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.01.31 19:41:00 - [27]
 

Main comment subsites should always have a link back to the main eve-online.com site, just to make all our lives easy this link should always be in the same location on all sites so people will not get stuck on a sub site.

Other then that, cool it can't really go bad so far you guys have made major improvements to the site on several occasions so I am looking forward to seeing how great the websites are going to turn out.

Komen
Gallente
Capital Enrichment Services
Posted - 2009.01.31 19:47:00 - [28]
 

1st page!

A very welcome devblog. We welcome our new .net website overlords.

burning raven
omen.
Posted - 2009.01.31 19:59:00 - [29]
 

I look forward to seeing what you do

Sazumaan Johnza
Minmatar
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.31 20:26:00 - [30]
 

Excellent, looking forward to these changes.

CCP has started using YouTube/Facebook for online marketing. But you have left out the most important and cheapest form of building a web presence: SEO and Link Building.

Yes, I have reviewed the site and links. Someone has done a real basic job, but it could be much, much better.

Please focus on this. You are loosing an estimated 10,000 - 30,000 extra subscribers per year. Subscribers that you would have gotten at a near-zero cost, certainly much cheaper than TV ads...!

Can I urge you, in the interests of best practice web development, to consider search engine optimization as one of the key objectives to meet for the new website?

The eve-online website has a Google PageRank of 7. Not many sites have this kind of PageRank...let's exploit it.

More generic phrases that you should be aiming to rank for internationally (top 5 ranking) on Google.com should include:

- MMO
- Online Game
- Multi-player game
- Space Game
- Space MMO
- Sci-fi Game
- Spaceship Game
- Or just "Game".

Not just the obvious target ones like "Science Fiction Space MMO" etc etc. (Above list is an example only. Proper keyword research should be carried out.)

Please ensure all old URLs are 301 permanently redirected 1-1 to their new version. Don't redirect using 302. This can be done in the .htaccess file.

Some additional initiatives too look at are global RSS syndication of all CCP content (push RSS, ie. go and submit the feeds to the top 100 aggregators) as well as some more advanced on-page search optimisation initiatives such as tag clouds (popular search cloud on a per website-category level).


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