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Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Posted - 2009.01.30 17:06:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Oday Darkcrest on 30/01/2009 20:07:55
Hi Guys,

Rhaesk and Malaph, brothers in real life, stole about 15-20 bil in items, ships, ore, minerals, blue prints, etc from both the corp, its members and Alliance members.

Rhaesk started his char 05/11/2008, 24 hours and 1 minute later he creates Veldspar International and starts recruiting. After creating an ok corp (40 members or so) I come in and start helping. We grow to 90+ ppl.
2 weeks ago Rhaesk invites his RF brother into the Corp (Malaph) and they start borrowing items and ships from people. Rheask has perfect refine so loads of people give him tonnes or ore.

3 days ago he empties the coffers and all hangers, borrows as much isk as ppl will lend him, other expensive ships (to "test drive") and more and leaves corp.

The total of what they took we estimate it to be in the region of 15-20 Billion.

I would recommend that no one buys this Chars as we will have mercs after them and their corps. We will be KOS'ing to every alliance we have any contacts in and we will be War decking any corp they have anything to do with. Probably until they are biomassed.

I'm new to this kind of lists, should I be posting any other kind of info?

Lord Windu
Posted - 2009.01.30 17:12:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Lord Windu on 30/01/2009 18:33:57
Originally by: Oday Darkcrest


I'm new to this kind of lists, should I be posting any other kind of info?


Proof?


And, how do you know they were brothers and not just the same dude? As far as going after them with Merc's and making their time in eve a complete nightmare, well have fun with that. Not only have the stole your stuff but they are going to cost you even more in war / merc fees.


edit: This will be dealt with



Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Posted - 2009.01.30 17:45:00 - [3]
 

What would constitute proof?

As for them being brothers... They said so. They were on vent on a regular basis (so not same guy), some times same IP's some times similar ones (local area).

Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Posted - 2009.01.30 17:46:00 - [4]
 

Btw, there was a reason for this last line...
Originally by: Oday Darkcrest
I'm new to this kind of lists, should I be posting any other kind of info?

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.30 18:01:00 - [5]
 

You may wanna change your topic header. It sounds like your saying they stole the alliance from you.

Back on topic: Lol, you didn't pick up on what they were about to do?

Warning light one: They start borrowing from multiple people and for a lot of isk

Warning light two: They borrow ships to take for 'a test drive'

Warning light three: He offers to refin everyone's ore

I think you had it coming

ShadowMaiden
Amarr
Atrocity.
Posted - 2009.01.30 18:32:00 - [6]
 

in b4 "this will be dealt with"

Normin Bates
Posted - 2009.01.30 18:46:00 - [7]
 

All your stuffs are belong to them.

Darklorden
Evident Doom
Brothers of Mayhem
Posted - 2009.01.30 20:02:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Oday Darkcrest
Edited by: Oday Darkcrest on 30/01/2009 17:57:59
Hi Guys,

Rhaesk and Malaph, brothers in real life, stole about 15-20 bil in items, ships, ore, minerals, blue prints, etc from both the corp, its members and Alliance members.

Rhaesk started his char 05/11/2008, 24 hours and 1 minute later he creates Veldspar International and starts recruiting. After creating an ok corp (40 members or so) I come in and start helping. We grow to 90+ ppl.
2 weeks ago Rhaesk invites his RF brother into the Corp (Malaph) and they start borrowing items and ships from people. Rheask has perfect refine so loads of people give him tonnes or ore.

3 days ago he empties the coffers and all hangers, borrows as much isk as ppl will lend him, other expensive ships (to "test drive") and more and leaves corp.

The total of what they took we estimate it to be in the region of 15-20 Billion.

I would recommend that no one buys this Chars as we will have mercs after them and their corps. We will be KOS'ing to every alliance we have any contacts in and we will be War decking any corp they have anything to do with. Probably until they are biomassed.

I'm new to this kind of lists, should I be posting any other kind of info?


... this is called free will!
He did not force anyone, it was given to him freely. Trust should be based on merit and not handed out like candy.

Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Posted - 2009.01.30 20:06:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: kor anon
You may wanna change your topic header. It sounds like your saying they stole the alliance from you.

Back on topic: Lol, you didn't pick up on what they were about to do?

Warning light one: They start borrowing from multiple people and for a lot of isk

Warning light two: They borrow ships to take for 'a test drive'

Warning light three: He offers to refin everyone's ore

I think you had it coming

Ya big meany Wink

Warning light One:
Personally I had no idea, and Rheask was the CEO of the corp. Well trusted within the alliance. Seems he had been working on this for months.

Warning light Two:
Was not off me, was off a couple of people who probably did not speak about it. But why would they, they trusted him as he had been helping people, gaining their trust for months.

Warning light Three:
He was one of the main guys to refine for the Alliance and as the CEO he refined all or most of the Corp mining ops. Reason was he had 100%. And we had not had any issues on other ops, just the last couple over the last week or so.



But seriously, I have screenies of his hanger with our items in it. I have chat logs and so on + witnesses to his Alliance mails saying he stole from us all.
So I ask again, what should I be posting up guys? I have never had to do this before.

Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Posted - 2009.01.30 20:07:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: ShadowMaiden
in b4 "this will be dealt with"
I dont understand. in before? Rheask is already listed? Or is it Malaph?

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.30 20:11:00 - [11]
 

Not trying to be mean but do you have isk to pay for mercs for an extended period? No doubt these guys will lay low for a couple of weeks.

kublai
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.01.30 20:39:00 - [12]
 

You're not going to do anything to them, stop kidding yourself, as for making them "kos" who cares?

Make me KOS, watch me care, I dare you.

Further, you're all out of isk, they're loaded, I wonder who can afford the most mercs.

Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.01.30 20:46:00 - [13]
 

Lulz, I wardecced these guys a few weeks back.

Wish I had demanded a ransom :(

flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2009.01.30 21:04:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: flakeys on 30/01/2009 21:05:28
Originally by: Oday Darkcrest
Originally by: ShadowMaiden
in b4 "this will be dealt with"
I dont understand. in before? Rheask is already listed? Or is it Malaph?


For your info this has to do with another topic so expect it in every thread here , this is gonna be the flavour of the year Wink


And on topic , let it be.Learn from it and just move on.Paybacks tend to not happen or not like you want in eve mostly.Paying mercs only will cost you more isk harming them in no way what so ever.



Zapp Brannigahn
Viziam
Posted - 2009.01.30 21:14:00 - [15]
 

Sucks to be you guys

Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Posted - 2009.01.30 21:18:00 - [16]
 

Can I have an answer to my question on proof? What is the standard of proof accepted in these cases.

As for cash and all that. I already have paid mercs and speaking to a second group atm. They stole from (what is now MY) corp, other people within the corp and alliance. My personal money was not affected, expect the money I donated to corp to buy the blue prints we had (that was about 2 bil)

None of what u guys are posting is being helpful really. I assume that there is a burden of proof on me but if I don't know what the standard is I cant prove this. Please, what is the norm?

State Security
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.30 21:43:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Oday Darkcrest
Can I have an answer to my question on proof? What is the standard of proof accepted in these cases.

As for cash and all that. I already have paid mercs and speaking to a second group atm. They stole from (what is now MY) corp, other people within the corp and alliance. My personal money was not affected, expect the money I donated to corp to buy the blue prints we had (that was about 2 bil)

None of what u guys are posting is being helpful really. I assume that there is a burden of proof on me but if I don't know what the standard is I cant prove this. Please, what is the norm?


In all honesty, you're not going to get more then "lulz 2 bad 4 U" and "can I have your stuff they didnt take?" here.
There really is nothing you can do. Some ideas come to mind like keep them on your friends list and any time they join a Corp, send the CEO of that Corp the story and proof of what they did. If they start a new Corp, send every person who joins it a warning about what happend. These won't cost you anything but a few minutes a day checking up on them. Hirring Mercs and the rest is costly in time and ISK you don't need to part with.
Bounties won't work, they'll just kill each other to collect YOUR ISK, again.
Some "creative" things you can do if you want to waist time:
1. Send them ISK every few minutes, a few hundred times a day.. in the ammount of 0.01, it makes checking your accounts and markets a REAL pain in the rump.
2. Follow them around every place they go and keep asking them dumb questions about why they did it. Sure they'll block you eventually but everyone in Local will see it still.

Come up with anything that isn't breaking EULA and do it.

OR, live and learn, move on and let it go.
It sux, it's not fair but there's nothing else you can do.

Lemage
Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
Posted - 2009.01.30 22:04:00 - [18]
 


Proof would be things like.... Screen shots of his hangar? or chat logs?

Btw These warnings rarely work, since a vast majority of eve-online players do not read them.

You are wasting your isk trying to get mercs to kill him, it will never get your isk back nor will it do anything since he can just buy a new character and go on his merry way. Good job on giving him access and letting him "borrow" stuff lol.

Fitz VonHeise
Eye Bee Em
Stellar Defense Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.31 00:05:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 31/01/2009 00:09:50

Added to my thieves list:

Rhaesk Accomplice: Malaph Link



Services I Provide:

Alliance Creation Caldari Standings Thieves Of EvE Titans My Links

Kylezanto
Minmatar
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.31 01:10:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Kylezanto on 31/01/2009 01:10:29
Screenshots or GTFO, there is no proof. In addition, what is with all the people that say the characters even if sold will be KOS? :S

Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 31/01/2009 00:09:50

Added to my thieves list:

Rhaesk Accomplice: Malaph Link


PS, your list is a joke, all of it is hearsay no evidence at all.

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2009.01.31 01:16:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 31/01/2009 00:09:50

Added to my thieves list:

Rhaesk Accomplice: Malaph Link




Linking back to this thread hardly qualifies as proof

cant think2
Amarr
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2009.01.31 01:33:00 - [22]
 

would you be interested in our services give me a convo ill be in your system fighting with you guys

Rhaesk
Posted - 2009.02.22 11:48:00 - [23]
 

Wow Oday, very little of this is actually true. I told you I'd be retiring from the game for a few months, so I gave you my corporation (Veldspar International), and I gave some of the corporations assets to my brother...? Just because you didn't get to keep every single thing, you're calling me a thief? My brother helped build the corp too you know, I thought it would be only fair that he got got a share of what he put into it. The numbers Oday is claiming are complete balony too btw. Please remove me from this silly list.

Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.02.22 12:45:00 - [24]
 

And this is why you post proof

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2009.02.22 13:16:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Rhaesk
Wow Oday, very little of this is actually true. I told you I'd be retiring from the game for a few months, so I gave you my corporation (Veldspar International), and I gave some of the corporations assets to my brother...? Just because you didn't get to keep every single thing, you're calling me a thief? My brother helped build the corp too you know, I thought it would be only fair that he got got a share of what he put into it. The numbers Oday is claiming are complete balony too btw. Please remove me from this silly list.


This post gives me an overwhelming sense of deja vu

Miss Uylear
Caldari
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
Posted - 2009.02.22 13:33:00 - [26]
 

I have no opinion on this matter that counts to the final judgement. I can only mildly giggle at your mis-fortune.

Hee hee. Hee hee. You... hee hee, hee hee. Ha.

You... hee hee, hee. Ha, ha ha, ha.

00-000

Insa Rexion
Minmatar
Fumar Puede Matar
Posted - 2009.02.22 15:42:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: State Security

1. Send them ISK every few minutes, a few hundred times a day.. in the ammount of 0.01, it makes checking your accounts and markets a REAL pain in the rump.



Sounds like the sort of thing that can get an account banned if petitioned, I wouldn't bother doing it

Elite Contract
Posted - 2009.02.22 16:15:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Elite Contract on 22/02/2009 16:16:12
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 31/01/2009 00:09:50

Added to my thieves list:

Rhaesk Accomplice: Malaph Link



[center] Services I Provide:
Just shows that this "list" is bull****. I will drop by in your threads every now and then to troll them free of charge.

Also, OP fails at memes and should kill himself (ingame).

Edit: and i fail at quoting and will selfdistruct my pod :s

Rhodin Lazarith
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2009.02.23 15:45:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Lulz, I wardecced these guys a few weeks back.

Wish I had demanded a ransom :(


Jared, back when we were in IDC, we whooped your sorry ass so hard you dropped the dec in under a week.... Lulz

Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
Posted - 2009.02.23 15:53:00 - [30]
 

corp thieves make me mad grrr


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