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Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.15 23:39:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Christari Zuborov



It's a good thing you surround yourself by people with skill... I've seen some of your fits. LaughingLaughingLaughing


What fits are you talking about? You mean those named after me because I invented them? What about them?

Murina
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.01.15 23:44:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Originally by: Christari Zuborov



It's a good thing you surround yourself by people with skill... I've seen some of your fits. LaughingLaughingLaughing


What fits are you talking about? You mean those named after me because I invented them? What about them?


The problem is that if we use the names ppl gave your fits and ideas about pvp the forum filter will block it and we will get banned..Razz

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.15 23:52:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Originally by: Christari Zuborov



It's a good thing you surround yourself by people with skill... I've seen some of your fits. LaughingLaughingLaughing


What fits are you talking about? You mean those named after me because I invented them? What about them?


You have quite a few hilarious failboats on battleclinic, but then again who hasnt these...

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.15 23:54:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Lilith Velkor


You have quite a few hilarious failboats on battleclinic, but then again who hasnt these...


And wich of those are from non-noob days and do you know the intended use of some of them? Does that show on your battleclinic? Rolling Eyes

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.15 23:57:00 - [65]
 

Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 15/01/2009 23:59:28
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 15/01/2009 23:57:07
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Originally by: Lilith Velkor


You have quite a few hilarious failboats on battleclinic, but then again who hasnt these...


And wich of those are from non-noob days and do you know the intended use of some of them? Does that show on your battleclinic? Rolling Eyes


I couldnt be bothered to go back much in history, we're talking recent losses here.

Still, no offense meant, everyone has these unless they always go with cookie cutter, I've got some on my own.

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.15 23:58:00 - [66]
 

Edited by: Amira Shadowsong on 15/01/2009 23:58:38
Originally by: Lilith Velkor


I couldnt be bothered to go back much in history, we're talking recent losses here.

Still, no offense meant, everyone has these, I've got some on my own.


No really, you accuse me of having crap fits. Show atleast one recent then. It's easy yapping without putting money where the yap is coming from.

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:17:00 - [67]
 

Imo the last crusader loss on battleclinic is pretty bad fit for example.

Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:20:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Imo the last crusader loss on battleclinic is pretty bad fit for example.


Well, I have to admit that ECCM is not really possible on a crusader. I can understand the anger in this case...

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:23:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Imo the last crusader loss on battleclinic is pretty bad fit for example.


And why is that a bad crusader? Have you even bothered to check what I have solo'd in that setup? You obviously haven't because you are making a fool out of yourself right now.

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:28:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Imo the last crusader loss on battleclinic is pretty bad fit for example.


And why is that a bad crusader? Have you even bothered to check what I have solo'd in that setup? You obviously haven't because you are making a fool out of yourself right now.


Because you wasted a lowslot without need. You use a 20km point without need. You use the inferior mwd type.

I dont dispute you might have soloed countless frigs in FW with that, its still a bad fit though.

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:30:00 - [71]
 

Edited by: Amira Shadowsong on 16/01/2009 00:30:56
Originally by: Lilith Velkor


Because you wasted a lowslot without need. You use a 20km point without need. You use the inferior mwd type.

I dont dispute you might have soloed countless frigs in FW with that, its still a bad fit though.


You know things cost isk right? The fit just fine and I've solo'd several cruisers in it and combat ceptors. You are so deep into that pile of crap that you will lie without any limits now to save your face.

There is nothing wrong with that fit.

Oh haha btw 20km point without need? Do you know the range of those pulses? You are such a noob. Sorry.

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:36:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong


Oh haha btw 20km point without need? Do you know the range of those pulses? You are such a noob. Sorry.


Yea, range is another thing that is wrong here, slow as hell and no range is bad, mkay?

SirMoric
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:41:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Omara Otawan
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong


Oh haha btw 20km point without need? Do you know the range of those pulses? You are such a noob. Sorry.


Yea, range is another thing that is wrong here, slow as hell and no range is bad, mkay?


You lost Omara, she used the "n"-word first....

Always, always use the "n"-word as ealy as possibly in any discussion, if at all possible, see you you can squeeze it into your first post....

rgds

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:41:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2009 00:48:14
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2009 00:43:25
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2009 00:42:26
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong

Oh haha btw 20km point without need? Do you know the range of those pulses? You are such a noob. Sorry.


The only ceptor where you'll want a 20km (and not even a named one Rolling Eyes) point is the claw. (Unless you want a scram that is).

And even if we neglect that, why did you waste (at least, depending on viewpoint) one lowslot again?

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:45:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: SirMoric


You lost Omara, she used the "n"-word first....



I can still call him a n00b, isnt that stronger than noob? Very Happy

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.16 00:50:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2009 00:43:25
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 16/01/2009 00:42:26
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong

Oh haha btw 20km point without need? Do you know the range of those pulses? You are such a noob. Sorry.


The only ceptor where you'll want a 20km point is the claw. (Unless you want a scram that is).

And even if we neglect that, why did you waste (at least, depending on viewpoint) one lowslot again?


Hahjahahahahha now I see why you all like to gang up against me. You obviously have no clue about fitting a ship for a certain task and therefor fail at eve pvp.

20km point instead of 24km because of cap.

Why would I fit a 9km point on a ship that can reach 14km?

If you don't know why 14km is better then 9km then you might wanna rethink your career choice of being a pvper.

You are absolutely grasping after straws now. Please just do us all a favor, go away. You can't be serious.

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:03:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong

20km point instead of 24km because of cap.



Priceless. You realize your Warp Disruptor I uses the same cap/sec as a Warp Disruptor II, right?

Fit a named one for cap (which makes a whopping .2 cap/sec difference), or better yet get a faction scram cheapskate.

Quote:

Why would I fit a 9km point on a ship that can reach 14km?



To disable the other ceptors mwd, and gank the crap outta it with the superior dps and tracking of your light pulses.

If you want to do that, not saying you wanted. I said the only reason not to fit a t2 over a t1 disruptor on ceptors is you want a 9km one.

Quote:

If you don't know why 14km is better then 9km then you might wanna rethink your career choice of being a pvper.



14km isnt that much, you obviously do not dogfight that much with ceptors. Even if you plan on staying at 20km you'll end up at 14 more often than not.

Quote:

You are absolutely grasping after straws now. Please just do us all a favor, go away. You can't be serious.


Sure, whatever you say Cool

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:06:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong

20km point instead of 24km because of cap.



Priceless. You realize your Warp Disruptor I uses the same cap/sec as a Warp Disruptor II, right?

Fit a named one for cap (which makes a whopping .2 cap/sec difference), or better yet get a faction scram cheapskate.

Quote:

Why would I fit a 9km point on a ship that can reach 14km?



To disable the other ceptors mwd, and gank the crap outta it with the superior dps and tracking of your light pulses.

If you want to do that, not saying you wanted. I said the only reason not to fit a t2 over a t1 disruptor on ceptors is you want a 9km one.

Quote:

If you don't know why 14km is better then 9km then you might wanna rethink your career choice of being a pvper.



14km isnt that much, you obviously do not dogfight that much with ceptors. Even if you plan on staying at 20km you'll end up at 14 more often than not.

Quote:

You are absolutely grasping after straws now. Please just do us all a favor, go away. You can't be serious.


Sure, whatever you say Cool


This is a cruiser killer fit and it has a fighting chance against ceptors aswell. I know how to fit a pure anti inty crusader, *snip - Mitnal* Problem is that the anti inty fit is absolutely crap against cruisers and AFs. *snip - Mitnal*

Murina
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:13:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong


This is a cruiser killer fit and it has a fighting chance against ceptors aswell.

I know how to ****ing fit a pure anti inty crusader, I'm not special like you. Problem is that the anti inty fit is absolutely crap against cruisers and AFs.



LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Cos solo is all about skill and nothing to do with i-win fits that work great against certain types of ships hey pal.....LaughingLaughingLaughing

So how does it feel now you just PWND yourself?.LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:24:00 - [80]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong

This is a cruiser killer fit and it has a fighting chance against ceptors aswell. I know how to ****ing fit a pure anti inty crusader, I'm not special like you. Problem is that the anti inty fit is absolutely crap against cruisers and AFs. Just friggin admit it, you suck at this game.


Any half-competent cruiser pilot would stomp that abomination in seconds tbh.

It has zero chance against inties fitted for dogfight either, and no inty out there takes on a decent AF anyway.

And if it makes you happy, yes I suck at the game. There you go. Doesnt change a thing about this poor poor sader tho.


I guess we can stop derailing here as its pointless, so what about falcons, imo they are pretty ok if this cloak-jam issue got resolved and the Arazu/Lachesis got a boost to the falloff of their RSDs.

Would you think that could be an improvement?

ShadowGod56
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:44:00 - [81]
 

boosting the range of the other recons EWAR would solve the problem mainly

Karrade Krise
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:46:00 - [82]
 

CCP's Response:

Our logs show nothing.

It's working as intended.


Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:47:00 - [83]
 

Imo range on TDs is fine as it is, TPs could get a boost to optimal+falloff, as well as RSDs though, but best only on the ewar boats.

SirMoric
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.01.16 01:58:00 - [84]
 

I'd say, boost the range of sensor dampeners and tracking disruptors, so that all races get ships that can E-war more or less outside enemy fire.

The sensor dampeners would make most Caldari pilots laugh, cause they still have no problem hitting the E-machine.

And Caldari don't mind tracking disruptors at all.....

Getting more ships that are able to, at a distance, make a difference in battle is always welcome. The "up your nose"-boats are quite boring. But seing a couple of snipers jump in 200 km of a battle supported by a few ships with sensor dampeners, would set a completely different scenario than today.

We need range in our battles, otherwise they just seem like mindless gank-shows.

rgds

Dray
Caldari
Euphoria Released
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2009.01.16 02:00:00 - [85]
 

There is nothing wrong with the falcon, the arazu and the lachesis need a bonus to make rsd's effective again, other than that all is good in the world of eve, well almost...

Also quoting myself from another f**king falcon whine "The game is made up of 2 camps now, "those who try" and "those who cry", for the sake of my sanity, all of you, try to be the 1st, please."

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
Posted - 2009.01.16 03:04:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Amira Shadowsong on 16/01/2009 03:04:45
Originally by: Lilith Velkor


Any half-competent cruiser pilot would stomp that abomination in seconds tbh.

It has zero chance against inties fitted for dogfight either, and no inty out there takes on a decent AF anyway.




By your logic I could never win and all fits are crap because you can always counter fit against everything. You are really not making sense and starting to debate at 5 year old level.
I have killed cruisers in it. I do not care that there are competent cruisers out there that I might not have killed. Why? Because I'll just disengage if it doesn't go well. You have absolutely no arguments at all. That fit is just fine, you just epically lost this argument and made a huge fool out of yourself and you are trying to troll yourself out of it now. Tough luck. Rolling Eyes

I mean when 90% of the pilots I face are half assed, why should I not fit for cruiser and inty killing. It's not perfect for either job but it works in 90% of cases. Why do you like failing so bad on the forums mate?

Warrio
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.01.16 04:27:00 - [87]
 

Thread lacks direction.

ShadowGod56
Posted - 2009.01.16 06:24:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Edited by: Amira Shadowsong on 16/01/2009 03:04:45
Originally by: Lilith Velkor


Any half-competent cruiser pilot would stomp that abomination in seconds tbh.

It has zero chance against inties fitted for dogfight either, and no inty out there takes on a decent AF anyway.




By your logic I could never win and all fits are crap because you can always counter fit against everything. You are really not making sense and starting to debate at 5 year old level.
I have killed cruisers in it. I do not care that there are competent cruisers out there that I might not have killed. Why? Because I'll just disengage if it doesn't go well. You have absolutely no arguments at all. That fit is just fine, you just epically lost this argument and made a huge fool out of yourself and you are trying to troll yourself out of it now. Tough luck. Rolling Eyes

I mean when 90% of the pilots I face are half assed, why should I not fit for cruiser and inty killing. It's not perfect for either job but it works in 90% of cases. Why do you like failing so bad on the forums mate?


congrats your going off topic

**Back on earth**

also i think what might help the other recons is if they were more specialized

such as all the combat recons focus on damage bonuses and there secondary EWAR,
and all the force recons focus on there primary EWAR and cloaking

BurnYaBad
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.01.16 06:30:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Kahrlena
Just like the nano battle now theres the falcon battle..fortunatley u guys kept us somewhat informed on the takings of the speed nerf.. let us try it out and poof u have a good out put,,now no more nano whines.So CCP is the falcon out of whack..or is it "working as intended"Question


Your a ****ing moron, and your whinny ***** ass can try all you wweeeee lil can to get a nerf, but it aint happening.

BurnYaBad
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2009.01.16 06:32:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Kahrlena
Because whether you die hard falcon fans believe it or not sorry to say this but "It is an issue" Enough people are talking about it to make it an issue. Man do i remember the hate feeling when they was going to apply the speed nerf. I belived it wasnt an issue but it was just like the falcon issue. No matter how many time You personally deny it, enough people are saying that it is an issue.ugh


MOMMy save me, a falconw ith no dps, no drones, no missles and no damage out put jammed me, no fair cpp, waaaaaaaaaahhh nerf it cause i suck **** and am a ****ing assllicking ***** and refuse to counter ecm, save me ccp from my ***got little self


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