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Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 13:56:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Apaco lypse on 10/01/2009 16:02:49
Hello everyone,
Need a cyno but don't want to waste any preacious training time on an alt?
or do you want a covert cyno for fleet of BIG ships? Well I got the solution for you. I'm now doing a Cyno jump buisness give me 24 hour notice and I can be at the destination I have Cyno 5 For Covert cynos. please message me in Game Via Mail thank you.
Details: a deposit of 30 mill will be needed to help "insure" my ship, (Just in case a finger slips, or if I happen to walk into a war zone) and payment will go as follows:
Ozone is 280 isk each
1-3 Jumps from High sec: 3 Mill
4-7 Jumps from High sec: 6 Mill
8-9 Jumps from High sec: 9 mill
9+ And 0.0 sov systems: 15 mill
****This is per JUMP***
(Note if 0.0 System does not have sov Payment will be calculated 24 hours Prior Mission) When writing me an eve mail Please include a Time and Date, include how much Ozone I will need,. (Saturdays I am Busy)
Yes I can be apart of your cyno chain for no extra fee other then above
*Remeber to Book mark this thread*

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 13:57:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Apaco lypse on 10/01/2009 14:08:49
Status:I'm Free tommorow at 2:00 Eve time

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2009.01.10 13:59:00 - [3]
 

How can I be sure you don't jump my titans into your local dictor trap?

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 14:04:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Apaco lypse on 10/01/2009 14:17:01
Because I don't Own one? Besides My corp is not Like that (I'd Be Kicked out) Besides Chribba I would Never Do that to a respected Player such as yourself (or any other*)

Bigpimping
Pimp Inc.
Posted - 2009.01.10 14:44:00 - [5]
 

From your grammar it is clear you are used to misplacing capitals, how do I know my dread will not go astray?

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.01.10 14:47:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Bigpimping
From your grammar it is clear you are used to misplacing capitals, how do I know my dread will not go astray?


Ice Ice Burn

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 14:49:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Bigpimping
From your grammar it is clear you are used to misplacing capitals, how do I know my dread will not go astray?

well see your the one giving me the location so if I get lost it's your problemRazz

Maroz Thrace
heavy industrys
Posted - 2009.01.10 15:52:00 - [8]
 

apart from the obvious u cyno me into a cap trap of some form, wat happens if u do a terrible cyno and i bounce off the station (being an accident) and i get killed because of this, how much would you give me?

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 15:56:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Maroz Thrace
apart from the obvious u cyno me into a cap trap of some form, wat happens if u do a terrible cyno and i bounce off the station (being an accident) and i get killed because of this, how much would you give me?

If you loose your ship i do not pay for it because "you" (the user) can just kill your own ship and then I would have to pay you (in other words I would be forced to buy a ship that never even wanted) plus i drop you in a safe spot (thats why i need the 24 hour notice so i can make a deep safe spot.Confused

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 15:59:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Apaco lypse on 10/01/2009 16:01:31
sry did an oopsie here

Tiirae
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2009.01.10 16:23:00 - [11]
 

Sorry, this isn't exactly an order, just some observations.

I was thinking about a similar service the other day but I imagined having a corp-full of people doing it and a 2-hour response time. But I couldn't see a way to price it cheap enough to be attractive to people.

Anyway, re your service:

24 hours I would think is just too far ahead for people.

The deposit seems like too much, you shouldn't lose your ship and it's hardly the customer's fault if you do.

The prices seem steep... am I correct in calculating that if I want you 10 jumps into sovereign 0.0 space it will cost 150 million isk?

I understand you need to make it worth your time but I can't see people paying that much.

Best of luck anyway. Have you had any responses yet?


Brock Nelson
Posted - 2009.01.10 16:33:00 - [12]
 

Bob contacts you to help them
Northern contacts you to re-direct Bob fleet

Profit x 2!

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 16:52:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Tiirae
Sorry, this isn't exactly an order, just some observations.

I was thinking about a similar service the other day but I imagined having a corp-full of people doing it and a 2-hour response time. But I couldn't see a way to price it cheap enough to be attractive to people.

Anyway, re your service:

24 hours I would think is just too far ahead for people.

The deposit seems like too much, you shouldn't lose your ship and it's hardly the customer's fault if you do.

The prices seem steep... am I correct in calculating that if I want you 10 jumps into sovereign 0.0 space it will cost 150 million isk?

I understand you need to make it worth your time but I can't see people paying that much.

Best of luck anyway. Have you had any responses yet?



yes i have recived responses and yes it would cost you 150 mill for 10 jumps through 0.0*sov systems but this not meant to be a long distance thing. and the 30 mill deposit is just incase my client's finger to slip however I do not know who is an alt of who so if i get shot up by some one who just happend to be on my route would be strange. any more question please mail me in game

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.10 16:52:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Brock Nelson
Bob contacts you to help them
Northern contacts you to re-direct Bob fleet

Profit x 2!

I would never do thatLaughing

Apaco lypse
Posted - 2009.01.11 02:13:00 - [15]
 

I'm fre right now (Bump)

Jebba IV
Think and Grow Rich
Posted - 2009.01.11 02:33:00 - [16]
 

If you think people are going to trust you with their 1.2 Bil + (for one capital) ship by *hoping* you aren't gonna cyno them right into a POS or a few other Capitals, your crazy. Think about if you yourself were in a carrier / dread (billion isk +) and you are paying some random dude to do this service for you. Probably gonna feel a little uneasy eh ? You would probably only do it if you already have a ship their scouting if it was safe. and that very same ship. probably would have spent a day or so training cynos so you wouldn't need to hire someone to do a cyno for ya YARRRR!! I know you are probably an honest guy and have none of these intentions. But think about your (possible) customer putting billions on the line when they could have a friend do the same thing, and trust them.

Spike 68
Preparation H.
Posted - 2009.01.11 04:08:00 - [17]
 

If there is a capital pilot without any access to any form of cyno network, then he deserves to lose his ship.

Jebba IV
Think and Grow Rich
Posted - 2009.01.11 04:18:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Spike 68
If there is a capital pilot without any access to any form of cyno network, then he deserves to lose his ship.


Yet another valid point Surprised

Joofreaux
Posted - 2009.01.11 04:21:00 - [19]
 

This is a cool idea-- like the Spacing Guild from Dune.


PsychoBones
Red Goats
Posted - 2009.01.11 04:21:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Bigpimping
From your grammar it is clear you are used to misplacing capitals, how do I know my dread will not go astray?



Holy ****...

10/10

Cynotia
Posted - 2009.01.11 08:34:00 - [21]
 

Out of interest, what do you folks think would make this a valuable service?

I was thinking of something like;

  • Within 3 jumps of highsec only

  • Somehow getting Chribba verification - like giving him 2bn collateral

  • No insurance from bouncing off the station - it happens

  • 2 hours notice or less (proper clone management should mean that a cyno pilot can get anywhere quickly)

  • 10m flat fee, 1m deposit maybe?


Thoughts?

/hijack

Mhorbaine
Beyond Divinity Inc
Posted - 2009.01.11 08:40:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Cynotia


  • Within 3 jumps of highsec only
  • - maybe set it to lo sec only and 2 or 3 jumps into 0.0?

  • Somehow getting Chribba verification - like giving him 2bn collateral
  • - chribba verified = win on something like this - knowing the isk to replace is there would ease a lot of ppls minds

  • No insurance from bouncing off the station - it happens
  • - if you prep the spot properly this should never happen

  • 2 hours notice or less (proper clone management should mean that a cyno pilot can get anywhere quickly)


  • 10m flat fee, 1m deposit maybe?

maybe reduce it to 5m - covers ur cyno frig + some isk for ur time amply for a 10min job?


Cynotia
Posted - 2009.01.11 08:51:00 - [23]
 

Yeah, that breaks the feasability of it though - I imagine that Chribba's fee would be considerable, and even if it were free - having the 2bn collateral for a 5m reward (even if I pop 10 cynos a day) is a crap ROI

damn.

JoeT
Amarr
Quantum Horizons
Posted - 2009.01.11 09:24:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Spike 68
If there is a capital pilot without any access to any form of cyno network, then he deserves to lose his ship.


My corp doesnt have a cyno netowrk :l
We have freinds that can move and setup a set of jumps as we need them though it isnt instaant.

As for the OP: i dont really see this paying off any, mostly since its hard to trust a random person to open a cyno up, with no way of knowing if its good to go or a trap.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2009.01.11 10:17:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Cynotia
Out of interest, what do you folks think would make this a valuable service?

I was thinking of something like;

  • Within 3 jumps of highsec only

  • Somehow getting Chribba verification - like giving him 2bn collateral

  • No insurance from bouncing off the station - it happens

  • 2 hours notice or less (proper clone management should mean that a cyno pilot can get anywhere quickly)

  • 10m flat fee, 1m deposit maybe?


Thoughts?

/hijack


The problem is that unless chribba is there himself to witness the ship warping away or docking after cynoing through there is no way to verify any claims of lost ships. Killmails could be fabricated or he could simply use a cheap fit and hang around in the same system til you've gone.

Dirt McGirtt
Ministry of War
Posted - 2009.01.11 12:13:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Bigpimping
From your grammar it is clear you are used to misplacing capitals, how do I know my dread will not go astray?


10/10
roflmao Laughing

Koldz
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2009.02.15 22:18:00 - [27]
 

This would actually not be a horrible service to offer.
I think it is impossible for anything bigger than a regular capital though.

I know jump freighter pilots that would use it. But... insurance is absolutely a must. You do it in cyno frig at a station, you pretty much are never going to be ganked. most you will lose is an insured frigate.

How I would do it:
1) Deposit with Chribba (if you do jump freighters 10b would a good starting deposit. Since he is just sitting on the deposit and taking your emails, I doubt his fee would be exorbitant).
2) Only insure the ship up to the Jita best price of the ship + fittings
3) Insure it only for the jump plus dock time. A screen capture of the cyno in and time would completely cover your ass.

I ono. This is just my thoughts while I move my cyno alt through high sec.

You would definitely be able to charge more if you were 100% bonded with someone like Chribba. And not offering any kind of insurance definitely makes it sound shady. Sorry. That is my two cents.

F90OEX
F9X
Posted - 2009.02.15 22:29:00 - [28]
 

Its a good idea, I could see myself using it from time to time. But as mentioned, could cost you more then 3mil Laughing

Jit a'Marchand
Horrid Games
Posted - 2009.02.15 22:38:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Spike 68
If there is a capital pilot without any access to any form of cyno network, then he deserves to lose his ship.


Absolutely true. I myself have 3 accounts with 2 Capital-pilot's on them, and ALL 9 characters on the 3 accounts know how to bring up a cyno.
I would never use such a service, there is too much at risk. You need to have your own cyno's, or your friends to put them up, not strangers.

Cacka Williams
Posted - 2009.02.15 23:30:00 - [30]
 

I think most cap pilots have access to cyno alts/cyno chains already. I personally have 4 chars, 1 cap pilot and the the other 3 have cyno 5 and recon 5.
Also, some might be concerned that they jump to a cyno and find themselves at a deathstar POS with 50 BS ready to shoots them.


 

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