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Minmatar Vherokior
Posted - 2008.12.22 00:04:00 - [1]
 

I like the look of Amarr characters, but will fly Gallente ships and do Gallente missions. I was hoping for some ways to justify this in Eve lore.

Can someone mention a few reasons that an Amarr Khanid might live, work, and fight for the Gallente? How would he be perceived by the Gallente? How would other Amarr see him?






Dex Nederland
Caldari
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
Posted - 2008.12.22 00:52:00 - [2]
 

The Amarrian may hold a more liberal interpretation of the Scriptures, possibly to the point of heresy. This would mean he, if open about his interpretation, would be unwelcome in the Empire itself. In the Republic he would likely be beaten to death several times due to his heritage (right out). So that leaves the State and the Federation.

One doesn't really care about your religion as long as it doesn't get into other peoples business, the other wants you to practice your religion and express yourself as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. However, the State may not be the place for a Khanid trying to escape an Inquisitor to go; State corporations and the Empire's/Kingdom's have a very close relationship and so may allow the Inquisitor to pursue (key being may). So, for a heretic the logical place is the Federation. The Federation is not likely to allow someone to pursue a 'criminal' if the crime was practicing one's faith. So there is why the character is in the Federation.

So how do the Gallente, Jin-Mei, Intaki, assorted other inhabitants (including Minmatar) of the Federation perceive you? Likely varies; initially probably hostile if they know what race you are, possibly inquisitive if they don't. So it would be a 'challenging' life. Kind of think about it like an Arab Muslim living in the US or Europe. Likely held in suspicion and caution.

Hope that helped.

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.22 00:55:00 - [3]
 

there are a lot of people in the Empire, mate. You could make pretty much any excuse fly, really - moral opposition to Imperial doctrine, a faddish obsession with Gallentean pop culture, having been born in Federation space, or immigrated at an extremely young age alongside your parents.

The Gallente, for their part, would have mixed feelings - some would be accepting and willing to trust, others would be paranoid and wary.

Other Amarr would likely see the character as apostate and heretic, but again that'd be a matter of personal opinion.

End of the day, you're a pod pilot, and that means being fantastically wealthy, and having no obligation to explain yourself to anyone unless you wish to. A khanid pilot who flies megathrons? So what? There are hundreds of Khanid capsuleers who do just that already.

Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Ammatar Free Corps
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.22 03:42:00 - [4]
 

You might want to read the news arc about Midna.

Controversy surrounds pop star Midna's latest album
'blood raider' rumors continue to hound midna
reactions mixed, extreme following midna's revelation
an interview with midna - part 1
an interview with midna - part 2
attempt made on midna's life during concert

It's religiously centered, but it does have a few different characters that are amarrian and living in gallente space.

Hederick Maar - immigrant, Liberal amarrian
Aman Indrid - Sani Sabik apostle
Oliz Saudius - Sani Sabik priest
Lucius Zant - Criminal

There are tons of non-religious possibilities as well.
Considering that both Khanid and Kador have had dalliances with gallente pop-stars I imagine that it's not entirely uncommon for rich Amarr men (and women, it's a equal opportunity society after all) to act like a bit like playboys when abroad. They got isk to burn and have sufficient wealth and social status to smooth over any irregularities.

The more business oriented families will probably have lesser family members (and their staff, friends and associates as well) operating branch offices in gallente space, so thats another possibility.

The criminal angle will work too. I suspect plenty of gallente companies have figured out that having some foreign muscle would be nice. Amarrian in particular. Following a faith that generally isn't too picky about killing non-amarrians, educated, stigmata/terror factor with the locals and his background details are in the hands of a suspicious, anti-gallentean regime with a superiority complex (that is, not too willing to co-operate with gallentean police when it comes to background checks).


Basically every immigrant/foreigner story in the book will work.

Minmatar Vherokior
Posted - 2008.12.23 00:37:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Minmatar Vherokior on 23/12/2008 00:37:53

Great information and exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate each of your responoses. Thank you much.

Wanoah
Minmatar
Msana Foundation
Posted - 2008.12.23 03:09:00 - [6]
 

The criminal angle is a good one. Consider the Angel Cartel: they are the largest and most widespread criminal organisation in New Eden. Their numbers are made up of all races. In the Federation, the Guardian Angels branch of the organisation provide security for the Serpentis, and no doubt they have their fingers in other pies.

Atharax
Posted - 2008.12.27 13:26:00 - [7]
 


Minmatar Vherokior wrote: Can someone mention a few reasons that an Amarr Khanid might live, work, and fight for the Gallente?


I could make a long list of reasons for you, but they brew down to a few basic ones.

My first already been suggested in the thread:
That he is tired of the "big brotherism" of the Amarrian church and its dogma. He dont renounce his religion thats unrealistic for most cases, instead he's a freethinking freewheeler who dont fit.

This could be combined with the trait that he is adventurous and so don't fit into a basically static society.

That the Amarr is question are tired of living under mind control. Amarr society basically are that, and the players here in eve even act it out by sending warnings to each other in RP threads all the time for 'incollect thinking' in one subject after another. Its almost funny at times, they do it so automatically it suggest a mechanism that could be stronger than mere roleplay.
Well anyhow its mindcontrol mind you. :p


Now

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.27 14:24:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Atharax
The players here in eve even act it out by sending warnings to each other in RP threads all the time for 'incollect thinking' in one subject after another. Its almost funny at times, they do it so automatically it suggest a mechanism that could be stronger than mere roleplay.


Good roleplay, IMO, means understanding your character so well that you can react exactly how they would react.

Atharax
Posted - 2008.12.27 15:28:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Stitcher

Good roleplay, IMO, means understanding your character so well that you can react exactly how they would react.


Oh yes its good roleplay, though I have a strong hunch that the decree for conformism comes so easily for some, because it borrows from the political ideas of the real life person also.
And I was only thinking of Amarr here, where the thinking and saying of the individual are hampered by a need of obedience the traditions and religious thinking.

For you Stitcher as a Caldari it is somewhat similar but there in respect to military conformism andpatriotism I guess.

Anyhow I wont make any big point of this, it was more of a lighthearted reflection on something I noted. ;)

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.27 16:36:00 - [10]
 

Living as an Amarr/Khanid in Gallente Space can be justified by the fact that the Federation has the largest number of immigrants of all 4 empires. On the other hand, living as a Khanid-expatriate can be difficult. The Gallente culture is very different from Khanid culture and many Gallente will probably have a dislike for the Khanid because of many enslaved Gallente in the Khanid Kingdom.

This of course creates a lot of good RP opportunities. For example, your Khanid might have come to the Federation because he/she was dishonored as a Cyberknight and to get as far away from the Khanid-warrior houses as possible. (Ronin)

Or your character came as a religious zealot to the Federation to preach the word of god to the heathen Federation-citizens, but slowly became "corrupted" by the Gallente-lifestyle and while still claiming loyality to the Amarr empire or the Khanid kingdom, deep inside your character does not ever want to return.



 

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