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Valewska Cristina
Posted - 2008.12.19 01:30:00 - [1]
 

Hi Folks,

On the night of today Iīm trying to make some isks minering as I do every game session, but I cant, ALL asteroids belts from my home base (Isamm) and 8 jumps always on every direction (I was on .6 trhu .8 system) are depleted or only with few veldspar rocks? What happening? The rocks burned by theyselfs? I donīt think so. Itīs a clean up work did by macro runners, so can you investigate it? That becomes impossible to run a decent game when some chinese farmers tooks all of the things.

Thanks a lot,

Regards,

Alcides Freitas
(jukabala)

Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
Posted - 2008.12.19 01:53:00 - [2]
 

You don't need a macro-mining horde to clean out belts like that.

A medium sized corp mining op is enough to do the job.

Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
Spreadsheets Online
Posted - 2008.12.19 02:04:00 - [3]
 

my old corp I was in had 2 guys in hulks perfect mining. Billions spent on the perfect mining upgrades and implants. An alt for hauling. They would get on right after downtime and would strip belts of all ore and would clear about 5 belts an hour or so.

All you guys are so paranoid about macrominers and really they arent that much of a problem. Normal(well that's debatable) players are the ones stripping the belts.

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.12.19 02:32:00 - [4]
 

Yet oddly enough, most low sec asteroid belts are still brimming with ore.

Hmm, could be an issue of low sec vs high sec profitability and risk.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2008.12.19 03:34:00 - [5]
 

Just spawn yourself your very own Veldspar.
How? Don't ask me, it's easy enough for you to find out by yourself.

Top Trader
Posted - 2008.12.19 04:26:00 - [6]
 

I agree with the posters above. High sec must have disadvantages.

Treelox
Posted - 2008.12.19 08:25:00 - [7]
 

Monday and Friday are the big high sec roid respawn days. This means that Sundays and Thursdays can be rather barren.

Besides there are plenty of high sec roids around, you just need to get even further away from the hubs than you are now.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.12.19 08:42:00 - [8]
 

Some missions have really big roids in them, and you could try probing for special belts too.

But yeah, mining got boosts to yield but the belts do not match. I rather see different solutions than simply spawning more roids though.

Sar Ferredj
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.12.19 16:14:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Sar Ferredj on 19/12/2008 16:14:23
Anyway we need a solution . . . soon.

Recently reprocessing shuttles was an easy way to get (almost) free veldspar but it do not work anymore.

Now, belts are depleting at an alarmous rate !

Having dynamic respawn (depending on belts status in a system) should be a temporary answer, having the same belts way bigger (i mean really bigger) should another one, but you would have to rebalance minerals ratios.

There is no easy answer to this issue but we need one ASAP : do not talk about lowsec & 0.0 as logistic is really an issue to small corps/fleets (guess why the orca is such a success).

Anyway, miners need love as they're building the ships we loose in PvE/PvP . . .

Plundaar
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.12.19 16:27:00 - [10]
 

Guys guys guys... have you forgotten the new powerhouse on the block? Orca's can help entire systems be depleted within a few scant hours now. It's a combo job of a hauler/booster with only 2 hulks and you can strip a belt in one go.

Now multiply the above by 6 as there are probably that many Orca's floating about in high sec. Never a problem with low sec mining, just risk. Go in a newbship and avoid combat and you can (slowly) get almost anything you need.

BlondieBC
Minmatar
Galactic Exploration and Missions
Posted - 2008.12.22 03:53:00 - [11]
 

Me thinks, ccp is trying to allow the expanding eve population (hence trit demand), drive miners to low sec.

Orion GUardian
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.22 12:59:00 - [12]
 

I think getting missions and mining them as well as exploration might be a solution. but only if you got someone that can get L4 missions and someone to keep it free from rats before minig commences

I SoStoned
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.22 13:32:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: BlondieBC
Me thinks, ccp is trying to allow the expanding eve population (hence trit demand), drive miners to low sec.


They've tried doing that for 4 years, and it's never worked. Miners are terrified of lowsec because of the wandering ganks they have the ability to avoid much more easily in 0.0

Lowsec is not a wasteland, granted, it's just a heck of a lot more risky for miners than anywhere else, for very little return (lowsec ores don't offer much over highsec except through exploration... which is all too easily probed out by wandering ganks).

CCP needs to address the mining mobs of macros hiding in NPC corps to give corps the ability to run them out of their local space (via war declaration). And no, not all NPC cowards are macros... just most.


 

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