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Rata Nrnima
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.04 23:44:00 - [2821]
 

Edited by: Rata Nrnima on 05/02/2009 01:17:37
Originally by: El'Niaga
So CCP, its been almost 2 weeks since the last CSM meetings. We have information that they were presented with the final results of these findings and were told it would be made in short order.

Why the delay?

It was ready to show them, lets get it out and let folks see what's there.


We have to wait until we are closer to the new patch release so paying customers do not have time to obtain answers to inevitable questions. CCP will be entirely too busy to respond because of the impossible problems with releasing a patch way to early. BUT! It will divert attention. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Our options:

1. Continue to pay and play. Ignor it all.

2. Take the advice of so many of the above and take our collective money and go play WOW/(Insert name of game).

3. Continue to pay whine until the next cheat is disclosed.

CCP cares less which any of us choose.

URUS FORGE
Caldari
THE TRUST INCORPORATED
Posted - 2009.02.05 15:17:00 - [2822]
 

In light of recent news...more light may be shed on this exploit.

El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2009.02.08 06:47:00 - [2823]
 

I doubt it, they don't really want to tell us.

As previously mentioned, no way an exploit on this scale lasted for years without some sort of complacency on one or more CCP employees parts.

Blue Harrier
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.08 11:20:00 - [2824]
 

I can’t understand why all the ‘conspiracy theorists’ haven’t made note of the ‘master stroke’ possibly pulled by CCP.

At the start of this thread much ‘finger pointing’ was directed at BOB and many accusations founded or unfounded were made at their possible use of this exploit.

So if CCP in their data mining found the accusations were true (personally I don’t care either way), what better way to remove the embarrassment than disbanding BOB, giving the Goons the credit then launching the next expansion.

They now have a very big ‘carpet’ to sweep the rubbish under and all the pointing fingers get their ‘pound of flesh’ (the demise of BOB) and everyone else comes out smelling of roses.

Wink

Rata Nrnima
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.09 07:27:00 - [2825]
 

Originally by: Blue Harrier
I can’t understand why all the ‘conspiracy theorists’ haven’t made note of the ‘master stroke’ possibly pulled by CCP.

At the start of this thread much ‘finger pointing’ was directed at BOB and many accusations founded or unfounded were made at their possible use of this exploit.

So if CCP in their data mining found the accusations were true (personally I don’t care either way), what better way to remove the embarrassment than disbanding BOB, giving the Goons the credit then launching the next expansion.

They now have a very big ‘carpet’ to sweep the rubbish under and all the pointing fingers get their ‘pound of flesh’ (the demise of BOB) and everyone else comes out smelling of roses.

Wink



Not all believe BOB is really gone. Your observations are dead on - Glaringly so. It drives home: Back to business as usual. The perfect coup.

PJRiddick
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.09 13:22:00 - [2826]
 

As i said before,..those that were removed from game, more than likely now are back in the game under either another account or an alt. i cant see CCP removing so many players "just like that".
Just like the liberals of this country,......>Back Room Deals<

Now THERES a Comspiricy theory for ya <----<<<

Just my thoughts,....
>R<

Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Eve Industrial Corp
Posted - 2009.02.10 05:15:00 - [2827]
 

Personally I don't really care if people in 0.0 were getting reactions for "free". There is no end game in Eve, just the good people I fly with that makes the game fun.

What is concerning is the Dr's lack of quarterly reports, which I read when I found them and enjoyed them too.

However if you know that the maximum amount of x = 2 per year, yet 4.5 times as much had hit the market in the first twelve months then surely you'd realise something was wrong. Multiply that by four years and even at my imaginary figures it's impossible NOT to detect.

Of course, I'm assuming that CCP knows EXACTLY what moons, in what system has what moon materials at any given moment, and the fact that they don't change means it's pretty static. It's a case of how much can you get of x per moon per week/month/year. Not a difficult sum by any means. Might be a little harder in finding out where the minerals and items came from when produced so the sheer number of T2 ships might have been a second indicator as well.

Whatever the answers the dev's play the game. CCP has introduced the Internal Review guys, but CCP seem to be employing a lot more marketing speelers who are obviously more visual than the IR people. The only thing left to be said is that it's their sandbox. This is the only sci-fi mmo on the market and when a gambler is asked why they go to the crooked game the reply is "It's the only game in town".

PJRiddick
Gallente
Posted - 2009.02.10 15:37:00 - [2828]
 

Hay Guys,...i was just up on Battleclinic.com,...go look at there intro page. There is a blurb about BoBs disbandment.
Thought you all might be interested,..
thats todays daate 10Feburary 2009

And for some of you,...this might answer some of your questions but raise more unanswered ones in the same breath.

>R<

Shai'Hailud
Posted - 2009.02.22 03:17:00 - [2829]
 

Edited by: Shai''Hailud on 22/02/2009 03:28:49

Cuchulain Spartan
Posted - 2009.02.24 15:55:00 - [2830]
 

Edited by: Cuchulain Spartan on 24/02/2009 15:56:53
Originally by: URUS FORGE

I think it is high time for CCP to remove themselves and their employees as players of the game. They need to remove all suspect of them and their direct involvement surrounding these so-called 'exploits'



Anyone here ever enter a competition to win a car or the local lotto? Read the fine print and most of the time it says that employees and direct family member/friends of employees arent permitted to enter, why?

CONFLICT OF INTEREST, thats why !

I for one agree that no CCP employer should ever be allowed to play on a private account. Yes it would be hard to police but finding an employee who does should be an instant fire offence.

I dont trust CCP, why, because one or two bad eggs in the past have spoiled the whole pot for me (Vincent "t20" P, a core EVE developer anyone?)And yes I still play the game and pay because I like the game; I just dont like what goes on behind some of the closed doors.

Based on the t20 incident and this 4 year POS moon min exploit I cant trust CCP to do the right thing. After all t20 was never fired and the moon min exploit went "unnoticed" for so long. Both only came to light after players made them public, not CCP Sad


URUS FORGE, I want to thank you for keeping this alive and agree with you 100% on all of your posts that I have read. Keep up the fine work.

Cuc




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