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Armoured C
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:41:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Solostrom
Originally by: Solostrom
Putting 1 or 2 accounts for each alliance into Ban doesn't remove what has been a obscene exploit for 4 years! Is this why BoB, GS, AAA, have been able to field Titans forever.... I DEMAND that the ISK penalty be applied to any alliance who used it!



Demand Perma ban on any account who used it... not just the alts... every account associated! You ****ing ***holes!


i like your thinking , BTW have you ever brought any T2 items as if you have under you scheme then you would be purmabanned too, Merry christmas

Solostrom
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:43:00 - [212]
 

and where in the hell was Internal affairs group in this u useless fricking butt pirates?!?

Helfix
Caldari
Reikoku
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:43:00 - [213]
 

Does it not make more sense that the people running around like chickens without their heads pointing fingers are the ones who have been using this exploit?

lol @ Goons

-Helfix

Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:44:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Solostrom
Putting 1 or 2 accounts for each alliance into Ban doesn't remove what has been a obscene exploit for 4 years! Is this why BoB, GS, AAA, have been able to field Titans forever.... I DEMAND that the ISK penalty be applied to any alliance who used it!


I certainly hope the GS in your post refers to GoonSwarm Laughing

Julian Lynq
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:44:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: Solostrom
and where in the hell was Internal affairs group in this u useless fricking butt pirates?!?


internal affairs were managing pos'es Laughing

Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp
KenZoku
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:44:00 - [216]
 

roflcopters (with gold plated rotors)

Breaky Uzumaki
Caldari
Spleen Merchant
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:45:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Helfix
Does it not make more sense that the people running around like chickens without their heads pointing fingers are the ones who have been using this exploit?

lol @ Goons

-Helfix



Yes we're one of the oldest alliances in game.

jeffb
GoonFleet
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:46:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Solostrom
Putting 1 or 2 accounts for each alliance into Ban doesn't remove what has been a obscene exploit for 4 years! Is this why BoB, GS, AAA, have been able to field Titans forever.... I DEMAND that the ISK penalty be applied to any alliance who used it!
GS doesn't have that many titans, maybe 3 or 4 and built what 2 outposts in the last year? Compared to others building 20+ outposts and a ton of titans and motherships in the same time span?

Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Trinity's Vanguard
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:47:00 - [219]
 

There is no real point in pointing fingers at anyone - sure Goons, BoB or other alliances may have, but untill CCP shows any indication of who.

your just going to make this incident worse than t20 if the **** keeps being thrown around like this.

Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:47:00 - [220]
 

think about the epic battles, and the epic fleets... how many victories were driven by an advantage that the opponents just didn't have... All the "player-made history"... we'll probably never know the who what where when and whys of it all. Very sad. Even more so if the exploit petitions were ignored. But then I doubt we'll ever know about that either.

Doc Fury
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:47:00 - [221]
 

Golly gee.. More CCP fail-sauce.. Whoda' thunk it?

CCP, if you don't ban a whole ****pile of accounts over this, you have absolutely no credibility left, and you only had a little considering the other exploits and Dev cheating you've allowed to exist in the game over the last 4 years.


Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:52:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Anahid Brutus
Hey remember the years worth of ferrogel found in corp hangars of stations BOB lost in period basis during the Tortuga fiasco?

Not such a great mystery anymore Laughing


Care to explain how you got to look the content of another corporation hangar in a STATION? Or are you simply making up things to stir up trouble?

Maitsu
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:53:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Math'ra Hiede
There is no real point in pointing fingers at anyone - sure Goons, BoB or other alliances may have, but untill CCP shows any indication of who.

your just going to make this incident worse than t20 if the **** keeps being thrown around like this.


All the talk about t20 led to CCP actually doing something about it. As a goon I can say we are way more space ghetto than other alliances despite owning more space than anyone else (we're too dumb to exploit).

Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Trinity's Vanguard
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:54:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: Maitsu
Originally by: Math'ra Hiede
There is no real point in pointing fingers at anyone - sure Goons, BoB or other alliances may have, but untill CCP shows any indication of who.

your just going to make this incident worse than t20 if the **** keeps being thrown around like this.


All the talk about t20 led to CCP actually doing something about it. As a goon I can say we are way more space ghetto than other alliances despite owning more space than anyone else (we're too dumb to exploit).


Laughing fair enough then

Ion Bartzabel
Caldari
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:54:00 - [225]
 

Some math..

4 years is 35040 hours of production of a pos.
if ferrogel price was 30.000 isk / pu, and you would get 400 units per hour.
35040h x 400u = 14.016.000 units x 30.000
=
420.480.000.000b isk.

Just to get an idea on how much isk we are talking about here..
This is ONE pos, and you could run whatever pos chain to get the same result produced.

hence it's not just 3000 billion it could but muuuch much more. People could just run 15 poses each..

Xthril Ranger
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:54:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Anahid Brutus
Hey remember the years worth of ferrogel found in corp hangars of stations BOB lost in period basis during the Tortuga fiasco?

Not such a great mystery anymore Laughing


Care to explain how you got to look the content of another corporation hangar in a STATION? Or are you simply making up things to stir up trouble?
station owner can look into corporation hangars.

Lady Karma
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:55:00 - [227]
 

Edited by: Lady Karma on 11/12/2008 00:57:01
Originally by: Solostrom
and where in the hell was Internal affairs group in this u useless fricking butt pirates?!?


Have you ever tried emailing internal affairs?

When you do , you will realise exactly what they are. They should just rename to PR, as they managed to convince pretty much everyone

As for the use of this exploit, so far it has been evoke and MM admitting it. You can go on the witch hunt for bob and goons if you like, but there are guys raising their hands.

Kryztal
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:55:00 - [228]
 

Name and Shame ! public demands it CCP

Kayosoni
Caldari
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:56:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Anahid Brutus
Hey remember the years worth of ferrogel found in corp hangars of stations BOB lost in period basis during the Tortuga fiasco?

Not such a great mystery anymore Laughing


Care to explain how you got to look the content of another corporation hangar in a STATION? Or are you simply making up things to stir up trouble?


lol is this post serious?

Blackmarketbaby
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:57:00 - [230]
 

Edited by: Blackmarketbaby on 11/12/2008 00:58:48
ccp, if it's true that this was reported years ago you should fire your incredibly incompetent staff who should handle such instead of banning people doing what they can with the game. if this means that the state of the galaxy is more or less a bug - the whole game might aswell be considered a bug. isn't it worth to give us a little more information about this or is this the reason that you don't give anymore information? we obviously have spent money on a bugged software - you should reimburse us or **** off forever.

Maitsu
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.12.11 00:59:00 - [231]
 

Edited by: Maitsu on 11/12/2008 01:00:10
goonfleet.com leakzone
"Does anyone remember in the Delve campaign us capturing a BoB station and looking in their corp hangar and noticing they had like 3 years worth of ferrogel or something stockpiled?

Doesn't sound suspicious at all now."
damn too late

Mildaria
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:00:00 - [232]
 

it's me, i'm the exploiter itt!

Typhena
Forcas armadas
Moon Warriors
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:00:00 - [233]
 

I'm sorry, but this is really weird
I really hope to see a very nice clarification from CCP about this.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:01:00 - [234]
 

Originally by: Breaky Uzumaki
Yeah its not like CCP wrote a whole article about it or formed an internal affairs division or anything. No way. Nothing ever happened.


I'm talking about the here and now - you can go back through eve-search if you want to relive T20

Quote:
But those dirty goons, those dirty filthy goon scum and their lies...


only basing it on the lack of evidence and obvious conflict of interest

RedSplat
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:03:00 - [235]
 

Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: RedSplat
The BoB damage control, misdirection and personal attacks. Oh this is sweet


wow did you copy and paste that all by yourself ?


now roll over ?


Sorry, not a BoB pet.

Amjax
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:03:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Kayosoni
Originally by: Tobin Shalim

Why aren't you banned yet? Hey, new name for your alliance: Band of Banned. Nice ring, dontcha think? Very Happy


unfortunately for you, jokes aren't funny unless they have a bit of truth in them.


Sorry, which Dev are you again? Very Happy

Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp
KenZoku
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:04:00 - [237]
 

Originally by: Anahid Brutus
Hey remember the years worth of ferrogel found in corp hangars of stations BOB lost in period basis during the Tortuga fiasco?

Not such a great mystery anymore Laughing


Yeah it was pretty awesome when we got all that back out when we recaptured the stations from failtuga. I have some stuff in AZN area that I want to get soon too!

Brixer
Dai Dai Hai
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:05:00 - [238]
 


I was wondering why people would run POSes using fuel not found within 25 jumps from the tower itself. Guess I know now as gallente seems to be the one to use to maximize the isk/effort in this exploit Confused

The cool thing is.. CCP does backups every DT. Which mens they can just restore it to an inhouse server and do the proper thing.
Offlining the stuff just before news hit the fan shouldn't let people off the hook because they got early warning from those 'in the know'.


Spathi
Diabolus Ex Machina
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:05:00 - [239]
 

Edited by: Spathi on 11/12/2008 01:08:08
Originally by: Astasia Orian
Originally by: Anahid Brutus
Hey remember the years worth of ferrogel found in corp hangars of stations BOB lost in period basis during the Tortuga fiasco?

Not such a great mystery anymore Laughing


Yeah it was pretty awesome when we got all that back out when we recaptured the stations from failtuga. I have some stuff in AZN area that I want to get soon too!


Don't lie ast, it was only like 2-3 months worth. I did the calculations when we were beating Zeus over it :P

Actually goons, can you give us the 3 years worth since you said we had it.. I need a new titan. So does Molle since you don't believe he got one reimbursed. I'll even make a nice screenshot of it in the hangar for you to use. Contract to me, I'll move it in empire.

Tobias Lee
Star Mercs
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:06:00 - [240]
 

Hmm reply from CCP will probly go something like its not a bug its a feature we just considered it low priority until now but we have decided to remove ghost moon mining from the game.

We have investigated this matter fully and in light of xmas 2 weeks away are taking no action whatsoever.

Merry xmas

ccp


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