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Trebor Notlimah
Lone Star EVE Group
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:35:00 - [271]
 

CCP never ceases to amaze me!

durek magaliese
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:35:00 - [272]
 

and i thought i was too damn poor was about to buy a etc and sell it just to keep up....

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:37:00 - [273]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie

But the more I think about it, the more I wonder why no one from the economic department noticed the huge amount of materials comming out of nowhere.


Very simple if the exploit was being done before the economic dep started working.

You generally watch for changes in trends. So if it was stable they would not study it so deeply, privileging what was shoving interesting changes.

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:37:00 - [274]
 

replying at the birth of a threadnaught (as ive heard that 10 pages = threadnaught status)



Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:37:00 - [275]
 

Originally by: Berious
I think that guy who posted "Why no exploits in patch notes anymore?" just got his answer Laughing


Yep, I think this pretty much covers it. I wonder where that thread went, I hadn't been on in a day, and I seem to have gotten one heck of an answer.

GuntiNDDS
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:38:00 - [276]
 

Originally by: Talsha Talamar
Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 11/12/2008 01:35:04
Hmm this could be a database glitch that selectively affected Ferrogel of course...

Maybe someone could check other markets ?
SHC mentions that it looks the same in the Forge.

Screenie in the Domain a few minutes ago:

-image-




Actually that's just too funny to be true.

Dirtball
PinK Tac0 ReasearcH
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:41:00 - [277]
 

I think removing moon mins, t2 bpos, and titans would be a way to gain a 98% approval rating in spite of recent events.

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:41:00 - [278]
 

Originally by: Talsha Talamar
Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 11/12/2008 01:35:04
Hmm this could be a database glitch that selectively affected Ferrogel of course...

Maybe someone could check other markets ?
SHC mentions that it looks the same in the Forge.

Screenie in the Domain a few minutes ago:

Ferrogel Market in Domain




Wow, what is CCP doing?!!?

Ima Alt
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:42:00 - [279]
 

Hey devs and their BoB alts reading this thread - Why did you alter the price history for ferrogel????

Inquiring minds on the officially permitted thread want to know!

Talsha Talamar
Amarr
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:45:00 - [280]
 

Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Talsha Talamar
Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 11/12/2008 01:35:04
Hmm this could be a database glitch that selectively affected Ferrogel of course...

Maybe someone could check other markets ?
SHC mentions that it looks the same in the Forge.

Screenie in the Domain a few minutes ago:

Ferrogel Market in Domain




Wow, what is CCP doing?!!?


Great Entertainment...

I so sincerely hope...

It still could be a really really clever and sucessfull market manipulation attempt,
someone noticing irregularities in some market statistics maybe attributable to database corruption,
reads the "starbase exploit removed" notification and
gets ingeniously creative...
Kudos, should this prove to be true, btw ugh


IslandOne
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:45:00 - [281]
 

Seriously...more information required. MUCH MORE!! Since this is a "today" post, I would expect, we would demand, a much more detailed explanation as of tomorrow.

Vire Amarr
Amarr
Kernel of War
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:46:00 - [282]
 

Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Talsha Talamar
Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 11/12/2008 01:35:04
Hmm this could be a database glitch that selectively affected Ferrogel of course...

Maybe someone could check other markets ?
SHC mentions that it looks the same in the Forge.

Screenie in the Domain a few minutes ago:

Ferrogel Market in Domain




Wow, what is CCP doing?!!?


More this story goes long the more it looks like the old communist system were numbers were not what they seemed .....

Trust Us you dreamed this story it is not true ...

CCP will soon say that 1+1=25 and that e=mc˛ is my email adresse !!!

LOL CCP is going to deal with this story the way bush dealt with irak good reason to go at war ....

CCP once again epic failure to hide your incompetence

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:47:00 - [283]
 

Originally by: Dirtball
I think removing moon mins, t2 bpos, and titans would be a way to gain a 98% approval rating in spite of recent events.


Chill Beavis! I never sploited anything, I'd like to keep my tech II BPOs, crappy as they may be I won them.

Ima Alt
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:48:00 - [284]
 

I wonder if that massive lag spike and surge of disconnects had anything to do with the database purge of ferrogel price history info?

The plot thickens.

GuntiNDDS
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:51:00 - [285]
 

Edited by: GuntiNDDS on 11/12/2008 01:51:59
not only the domain market is missing numbers:

Ferrogel market in sinq laison

Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Trinity's Vanguard
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:54:00 - [286]
 

Originally by: GuntiNDDS
Edited by: GuntiNDDS on 11/12/2008 01:51:59
not only the domain market is missing numbers:

Ferrogel market in sinq laison


Kador region doesnt seem to have any missing numbers - I would post a Screeny but the list is a loooong one.

Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:55:00 - [287]
 

Originally by: Spathi
Originally by: GateScout
Originally by: Spathi
Still failed troll, CCP already said they removed them.

Except BoB's, of course. CCP give you enough time to change them over?

Some things never change.


I have shares in all the tinfoil production corporations, please, continue. Very Happy

That reads as a yes to me.

Anyway.
As far as I can tell most if not all the major alliances knew about that bug. Actually it would be quite surprising is that wasn't the case.
I'm just wondering how far back the server backups reach and whether that sudden surge in BoB posting activity means they successfully covered their tracks and were now let off the leash.
I'm not implying that only BoB exploited the bug, or more than others.
But I do think they're smarter when it comes to exploits.
Now Goons and Bobits seem to just watch each other in these threads trying to make sure their side doesn't get the short end of the stick.

Solostrom
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:55:00 - [288]
 

You all owe us a gigantic and clear explanation along with a long list of firings! Disco's, lagspikes, DB changes!!! What the **** is CCP trying to pull!

Ima Alt
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:56:00 - [289]
 

Originally by: GuntiNDDS
Edited by: GuntiNDDS on 11/12/2008 01:51:59
not only the domain market is missing numbers:

Ferrogel market in sinq laison
Yeah, they claim to be out of the office and unable to comment on the issue, but they have plenty of time to tamper with price histories. Also, lots of manpower availiable to lock all the threads in general except the one where all the fanboys and BoB pets come out to suck up.

Badly done, chaps.

Platinum Dragon
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:58:00 - [290]
 

BUURRRN BOB, drag them before the mob that we may have blood

RedSplat
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:58:00 - [291]
 

Exploit exposure triggers price hike, those responsible suddenly have vast amounts of a resource that has suddenly increased in value.

People are making a killing over these events, then suddenly market data gets removed. Given that any exploit that reportedly lasts as long as 4 years WILL have come to CCP attention things look fishy- would CCP have acted at all if that post on scrapheap hadn't been made? Similarities to t2 are starting to appear

Good thing i bought more tinfoil recently, i think my hat needs another layer

Stunna Shade
Posted - 2008.12.11 01:59:00 - [292]
 

Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Chatea
OMFG YOU HAVE MORE PIXELS IN YOUR PIXEL HANGAR! YOUR PIXEL WALLET HAS MORE NUMBERS! WHY DOES JESUS LET THIS HAPPEN?!?!?!


you posted in caps you also made jesus cry


pixel jesus.

Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:00:00 - [293]
 

Originally by: Ima Alt
Originally by: GuntiNDDS
Edited by: GuntiNDDS on 11/12/2008 01:51:59
not only the domain market is missing numbers:

Ferrogel market in sinq laison
Yeah, they claim to be out of the office and unable to comment on the issue, but they have plenty of time to tamper with price histories. Also, lots of manpower availiable to lock all the threads in general except the one where all the fanboys and BoB pets come out to suck up.

Badly done, chaps.


Quotin' dis for da truth

Ghoest
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:02:00 - [294]
 

Utterly massive cheating and CCP wont even tell the players the scope of it.

But then did you expect anything else.

This is supposed to be an economic game and the economy is a manipulated joke.

Spathi
Diabolus Ex Machina
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:05:00 - [295]
 

Originally by: Tarron Sarek
That reads as a yes to me.


Which just proves it doesn't matter what anyone says (with or without proof) you'll still not believe anything bob says. CCP has said they removed all the exploiting pos already, our pos are still up and working (go check!) which proves they weren't exploiting. Since you wont believe that you'll just claim ccp allowed us to keep them. Which proves my point nicely :)

Lady Oracle
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:06:00 - [296]
 

Placid is missing numbers on Ferrogel also

Tillmen
The Executives
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:09:00 - [297]
 

The forge numbers are gone. :run:

Tobin Shalim
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:10:00 - [298]
 

BIG THING:


It's not just the ferrogel!!! It's ALL of the adv. moon materials. Seriously, go check out each and every single one. At least in Forge region, it's done for all of 'em, probably everywhere else too.

Ima Alt
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:12:00 - [299]
 

Originally by: Lady Oracle
Placid is missing numbers on Ferrogel also
In Domain, numbers aren't merely missing, they've been altered to make it appear that the ferrogel panic never took place.

Evidence of lots of people's profits have been neatly taken off the books, no muss no fuss.

It now reports that there was 512,002 volume with a maximum price of 27,000. The lowest sell order in the region right now is above that.

Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
Posted - 2008.12.11 02:12:00 - [300]
 

While I may be missing the topic, if CCP really has any form of effective transactional rollback capability for their databases, the missing market history could be very easily explained by rolling back the market transactions by offending parties sales (removing the ISK they gained), without affecting the people who actually bought the ferrogel (which is a separate transaction).

If this is the case, then the missing market history just shows how deep this rabbit hole of an exploit runs.


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