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engimonger
Posted - 2009.01.18 20:15:00 - [151]
 

Edited by: engimonger on 18/01/2009 20:16:20
edited to add both relevant quotes....

Originally by: Loaby
what happens if 2 people are setting up orders at the same price for the same item. who will sell/buy if someone buys/sells from them?


Originally by: flakeys
The one with the oldest order


Is that really 'The one with the least amount of time remaining?'

For instance, suppose 2 players put in the same sell order at the same price, but one selects 3 months and the other selects 1 week. Further, the one that places the 3 month order before the one with the 1 week order - essentially making it 'older'. However, the expiration for the 3 month order is shown as further away (...obviously...) and making it appear 'newer'.

Or is this the penalty for putting in a longer dated order?



Great Thread!

flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2009.01.18 21:05:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: engimonger
Edited by: engimonger on 18/01/2009 20:16:20
edited to add both relevant quotes....

Originally by: Loaby
what happens if 2 people are setting up orders at the same price for the same item. who will sell/buy if someone buys/sells from them?


Originally by: flakeys
The one with the oldest order


Is that really 'The one with the least amount of time remaining?'

For instance, suppose 2 players put in the same sell order at the same price, but one selects 3 months and the other selects 1 week. Further, the one that places the 3 month order before the one with the 1 week order - essentially making it 'older'. However, the expiration for the 3 month order is shown as further away (...obviously...) and making it appear 'newer'.

Or is this the penalty for putting in a longer dated order?



Great Thread!


My esperience tells me , but don't shoot me if i am wrong , that it is the one that stands longest.

I do regional orders and come at the same pricing others have on a regular base.With this i notice that t least range doesn't matter nor the lenght you put the order.So it must be the one with the oldest order because there's no skill to improve it.


Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.01.18 21:15:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: engimonger

Is that really 'The one with the least amount of time remaining?'




No.

If 2 people put up identical orders the one who listed it 1st gets the sale.
If 2 people put up orders and one is lower price, regardless of which one you buy it from, you are really buying it from the lower priced order.

Example 1:

Joe puts up 300 units for 25.25 at 19:07 eve time
Jane puts up 5000 units for 25.25 at 19:09 eve time

Joe's items will be sold first even if you try to buy from Jane's


Example 2

Joe puts up 300 units for 25.25 at 19:07 eve time
Jane puts up 5000 units for 25.24 at 19:09 eve time

Jane's items will get sold first even if you try to buy from Joe's


engimonger
Posted - 2009.01.18 21:20:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Athre
Originally by: engimonger

Is that really 'The one with the least amount of time remaining?'




No.
<snip>





Thanks to you and flakeys. That explains a lot!

Raiven Parker
The Athiest Syndicate
Posted - 2009.01.22 17:19:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Got this question in my evemail today so I'll post it and answer it. FYI, if you would rather evemail me your question for whatever reason that is fine. I'll simply post it here.

Question: How can you create corp contracts in a station where your corp doesn't have an office and/or there are no offices available to rent?

Answer: Contract the item(s) to yourself. When you go to accept the contract just accept it on behalf of your corp. The item(s) will be moved to the deliveries hangar and you can then create a new contract on behalf of your corp and select items located in the deliveries hangar. That's all there is to it.


Im not even a noob but will ask anyway :P Do you have any techiques for creating a corp wtb contract in a station without office? Seems alot of people are able to but I cant find out how. That or they just pay the 350 mil for an office in Jita.

Thx

Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.01.23 00:23:00 - [156]
 

If you wish to do something on behalf of your corp and there is no corp wallet, you need to get the items into deliveries.

You can do this by contracting something to your self and then accept as corp.

From deliveries you can contract out (theoretically back in too right?)on behalf of your corp.

No office , 10k fee.


Raiven Parker
The Athiest Syndicate
Posted - 2009.01.23 12:27:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Athre
If you wish to do something on behalf of your corp and there is no corp wallet, you need to get the items into deliveries.

You can do this by contracting something to your self and then accept as corp.

From deliveries you can contract out (theoretically back in too right?)on behalf of your corp.

No office , 10k fee.




Thx I understand all that :P My question is, beeing a faction item broker and all, how do I create a wtb(want to buy) contract on my corps behalf when I dont have an office(yes Im doing this in jita 4-4) :P

Hope someone can help

Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.01.23 17:13:00 - [158]
 

My conjecture is that if you put 1 item of what you want to buy into deliveries, would it not be possible to then put up a corp want to buy order?

Have you tried making a contract on behalf of your corp (using corp wallet) when an item is in your hangar?

SonOfAGhost
Minmatar
Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository
Zzz
Posted - 2009.01.23 18:15:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Loaby
what happens if 2 people are setting up orders at the same price for the same item. who will sell/buy if someone buys/sells from them?

Buy orders are different from sell orders. I don't want to give away too much of a tool I use to drive competitors insane so I'll simply say: Location! Location! Location!

Raiven Parker
The Athiest Syndicate
Posted - 2009.01.24 09:07:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Athre
My conjecture is that if you put 1 item of what you want to buy into deliveries, would it not be possible to then put up a corp want to buy order?

Have you tried making a contract on behalf of your corp (using corp wallet) when an item is in your hangar?


Ah. Good call, will have to mess around with that. thank you kind sir :)

Mr Horizontal
Gallente
Posted - 2009.01.24 11:19:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Lord Zarcam
Another quickie question, at what point does negative faction standings interfere with travel for trading?

Today while running a few missions I noticed I was at a -2.3 or -2.5 with Minitar Faction. I remember reading a few weeks ago that as a trader I need avoid any negative faction standings if possible. Is it time I start running some Mini's missions?


Notice this went unanswered.

Standing matters with the Broker Relations skill, which is dependent on both corp and personal standings with the station you're dealing with. Also if you doing trade routes, you kinda need to move around in Empire, so you must ofc be on the right side of concord and factions.

Lord Zarcam
Amarr
Posted - 2009.01.24 19:25:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Mr Horizontal
Originally by: Lord Zarcam
Another quickie question, at what point does negative faction standings interfere with travel for trading?

Today while running a few missions I noticed I was at a -2.3 or -2.5 with Minitar Faction. I remember reading a few weeks ago that as a trader I need avoid any negative faction standings if possible. Is it time I start running some Mini's missions?


Thank you for answering my question. I had almost forgot I had asked this here. I did some research the next day about this and actually found some good info in the new EVE wiki, but it took some digging to find it.

For those who run into this, here's what I found out. If your faction standings (mostly due to running missions) drop to -5 you will be attacked on-site by the faction navies. (This is what I was afraid of) By training Diplomacy you can can raise the standings of "hostile" agents. By training diplomancy to 3 I was able to bring my -2.3 standing to .01. On the other side of this, it lowered my main faction standings a bit.

I have now switch agents I run missions for so I can hopefully avoid the kill missions (and I really liked doing them too!).

Notice this went unanswered.

Standing matters with the Broker Relations skill, which is dependent on both corp and personal standings with the station you're dealing with. Also if you doing trade routes, you kinda need to move around in Empire, so you must ofc be on the right side of concord and factions.

Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Posted - 2009.01.25 01:24:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Raiven Parker
Originally by: Athre
My conjecture is that if you put 1 item of what you want to buy into deliveries, would it not be possible to then put up a corp want to buy order?

Have you tried making a contract on behalf of your corp (using corp wallet) when an item is in your hangar?


Ah. Good call, will have to mess around with that. thank you kind sir :)


You're welcome and its Ma'am ugh

Kazzac Elentria
Posted - 2009.01.25 02:31:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Lord Zarcam
...snip...


I know this isn't totally market discussion related but I figured it might help those of you farming standings for broker fees.

You want to do your best to avoid storylines, always decline them. Never take the standing hit. Also when farming corporations, your best best to avoid any standing hits by accidentally killing a caldari navy, or gal fed navy is to stick to courier missions only.

In this regard you ram your corporate standings up, keeping your faction even for everyone and in general lower your broker fees for those corporate stations the easiest.

Petyr Baelich
Valar Morghulis.
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2009.01.25 04:47:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Lord Zarcam
...snip...


I know this isn't totally market discussion related but I figured it might help those of you farming standings for broker fees.

You want to do your best to avoid storylines, always decline them. Never take the standing hit. Also when farming corporations, your best best to avoid any standing hits by accidentally killing a caldari navy, or gal fed navy is to stick to courier missions only.

In this regard you ram your corporate standings up, keeping your faction even for everyone and in general lower your broker fees for those corporate stations the easiest.

If you're only using one alt to trade everywhere, yes. Otherwise I'd say do as many storylines as possible and get that faction standing as high as possible. Broker fees are weighted more towards faction standing than corporate. If you know you're only going to be using a couple hubs, no reason not to get your alt as high as possible to those factions.

Kazzac Elentria
Posted - 2009.01.25 15:01:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: Lord Zarcam
...snip...


I know this isn't totally market discussion related but I figured it might help those of you farming standings for broker fees.

You want to do your best to avoid storylines, always decline them. Never take the standing hit. Also when farming corporations, your best best to avoid any standing hits by accidentally killing a caldari navy, or gal fed navy is to stick to courier missions only.

In this regard you ram your corporate standings up, keeping your faction even for everyone and in general lower your broker fees for those corporate stations the easiest.

If you're only using one alt to trade everywhere, yes. Otherwise I'd say do as many storylines as possible and get that faction standing as high as possible. Broker fees are weighted more towards faction standing than corporate. If you know you're only going to be using a couple hubs, no reason not to get your alt as high as possible to those factions.



Agreed.

Remember though most new traders are only going to be using that single trade alt before the bug really catches them. Wink

Lord Zarcam
Amarr
Posted - 2009.01.25 17:14:00 - [167]
 

Thanks guys, some things I haven't thought about yet. Right now I'm just using one alt for everything. Been thinking of creating a second alt for trading, but I alreay have the skills on this player. I'm hoping that soon I can buy GTC's to support a second account with isk's I'm making, but right now re-investing back to more materials to trade is more improtant.

Ronan Le'Meurtrier
Posted - 2009.01.27 02:10:00 - [168]
 

Just wondering:

What is the purpose of having a corporate tax rate set if the taxes paid go to the Secure Commerce Commission?

Is this only happening because our corp is renting an office and, if using a POS, that tax income would then be forwarded to the corps wallet?

Thank you for your time.

Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Innovations
Posted - 2009.01.27 15:18:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Ronan Le'Meurtrier
Just wondering:

What is the purpose of having a corporate tax rate set if the taxes paid go to the Secure Commerce Commission?

Is this only happening because our corp is renting an office and, if using a POS, that tax income would then be forwarded to the corps wallet?

Thank you for your time.


Corp taxes only get taken out of mission rewards and pirate bounties. All sales related taxes go to the SCC.

Gritchee
Posted - 2009.01.27 15:35:00 - [170]
 

Hi, I have 2 questions.

1- What does the green highlights means in the market windows.

2- From what I can understand, when selling minerals, the higher quantities you sell, the more you can ask per unit, is that correct?

Thank you for your time.

Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Innovations
Posted - 2009.01.27 15:42:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Gritchee
Hi, I have 2 questions.

1- What does the green highlights means in the market windows.

2- From what I can understand, when selling minerals, the higher quantities you sell, the more you can ask per unit, is that correct?

Thank you for your time.



1) Show which buy orders are in range and covers the station you are currently in

2) Its a good rule of Thumb large producers will pay more to get the minerals in bulk. But with the way the market works all lower priced orders will get bought first even if the buyer selects your order.
Location is also a factor people will pay more if the minerals they require are at "their" station, moving large quantities of minerals carries a price of its own.

Gritchee
Posted - 2009.01.27 17:57:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Midas Man
Originally by: Gritchee
Hi, I have 2 questions.

1- What does the green highlights means in the market windows.

2- From what I can understand, when selling minerals, the higher quantities you sell, the more you can ask per unit, is that correct?

Thank you for your time.



1) Show which buy orders are in range and covers the station you are currently in

2) Its a good rule of Thumb large producers will pay more to get the minerals in bulk. But with the way the market works all lower priced orders will get bought first even if the buyer selects your order.
Location is also a factor people will pay more if the minerals they require are at "their" station, moving large quantities of minerals carries a price of its own.


But it'll eventually sell, right?

Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
Posted - 2009.01.27 21:01:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Gritchee
Originally by: Midas Man
Originally by: Gritchee
Hi, I have 2 questions.

1- What does the green highlights means in the market windows.

2- From what I can understand, when selling minerals, the higher quantities you sell, the more you can ask per unit, is that correct?

Thank you for your time.



1) Show which buy orders are in range and covers the station you are currently in

2) Its a good rule of Thumb large producers will pay more to get the minerals in bulk. But with the way the market works all lower priced orders will get bought first even if the buyer selects your order.
Location is also a factor people will pay more if the minerals they require are at "their" station, moving large quantities of minerals carries a price of its own.


But it'll eventually sell, right?


That depends on a lot of things.

1. Is the system its in crowded/have a lot of traffic? If so, your competition will be larger, hence the chances of your item not getting undercut are slim.

2. Is the item you're selling high volume? If it isn't, then your competitors who watch their market orders like a hawk will most likely have standby product waiting to be sold. If it is, then yes, some items will eventually sell.

These are only two points. There are a few more variances that will lead to different answers and possibly trump the above two questions, but all in all those are your usually your biggest factors.

Lord Choronic
Posted - 2009.01.29 03:46:00 - [174]
 

Edited by: Lord Choronic on 30/01/2009 14:15:24
I got 2 questions about IPO's:

1: When dealing with bonds in EvE, how do you got about things that require votes, such as making more bonds (as the game still treat bonds as shares, and assuming bonds here is what bonds is on wiki)?.

2: Has an IPO in EvE ever been organized in a way that allows it to grow without expansions in the form of more shares/bonds being released. Like lets say that the IPO's manager makes sure in the initial offering to save a % of the profit a month for increasing its operation?

If so, wouldn't this affect each share/bond's value, and thus also increase the dividend over time?

If not, why not?

Ava Santiago
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.02.04 05:47:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Lord Choronic
Edited by: Lord Choronic on 30/01/2009 14:15:24
I got 2 questions about IPO's:

1: When dealing with bonds in EvE, how do you got about things that require votes, such as making more bonds (as the game still treat bonds as shares, and assuming bonds here is what bonds is on wiki)?.

2: Has an IPO in EvE ever been organized in a way that allows it to grow without expansions in the form of more shares/bonds being released. Like lets say that the IPO's manager makes sure in the initial offering to save a % of the profit a month for increasing its operation?

If so, wouldn't this affect each share/bond's value, and thus also increase the dividend over time?

If not, why not?


The return on Bonds/Stock in corps are worth what the issuers feel their reputation is worth. (Or what the player who is buying them from you thinks they are worth.) Financial valuations tell you if you will get a return greater than zero, if the reported plan is executed successfully. Actual return to shareholders will be determined by the issuer.


Dr Karsun
Gallente
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
Posted - 2009.02.05 18:41:00 - [176]
 

Well, I've read almost the entire topic, hope the question I'm going to ask wasn't asked. IF it was, then sorry :)

I've earned a bit (not much really) on t2 med armor reps (sold like 1200 of them during 2-3 weeks, that was pretty surprising) with profit of 30% per... Later, I sold armor hards (far better profit), etc, etc. I generally ran missions with big tanks, spent a lot of time researching them, so also I got a more or less good view on the prices in gallente space.

My problem is that... It takes time, a lot of it I usually don't have, and I don't really feel like setting autopilot in my iteron when I got 500m worth of stuff on it. On the other hand, haulers or take a lot of money, or laugh at me, because I can't pay them much, I don't make much profit. I can't fly a frighter so hauling ores is beyond my possibilty.

Now back to the thing I wanted to ask for. Factional items. I never spent my lp from fed navy, so you can imagine, with almost 10.0 standing, I got quite a lot of lp (for a young character), but it's absurd how different the value of a fed navy lp can be small. I always buy my implants (+4) normally, because buying them for 12m and paying lp is nonsense when I can buy them for 16m. On the other hand, when I checked gun prices, it can be 10x more profit. But still, the lp is not really worth much. What field of lp is best to research? I know you guys and girls spent a lot of time making your own research, so I don't expect anwsers like "buy 350 fed navy guns" but rather - ships, bpo's, or implants? Is it worth researching that branch at all?

Thanks for the anwser.

engimonger
Posted - 2009.02.07 15:12:00 - [177]
 

Originally by: Dr Karsun
But still, the lp is not really worth much. What field of lp is best to research? I know you guys and girls spent a lot of time making your own research, so I don't expect anwsers like "buy 350 fed navy guns" but rather - ships, bpo's, or implants? Is it worth researching that branch at all?

Thanks for the anwser.



Faction Ammo for the PVPers; or BPC's if you have LP's with the right corp. You'll have to check the contracts to see what Modules you make from the BPC's are most worthwhile.

Ofelia Black
Posted - 2009.02.08 15:56:00 - [178]
 

What is that market tool similar to eve-central where it looks only at tradehubs and finds the maximum (Difference between High and Low)*Volume for pretty much every item it has data on?

Where eve-central was great for haulers, this tool was great for me as a series of local margin traders.

Can anyone recall?

Morgan Grim
Posted - 2009.02.17 23:47:00 - [179]
 

Question concerning the information shown in the Market window. I posted it industry before I realized I should have asked here.

The market window shows a graph with a lot of information like high and low prices, etc. You can also view as a table. In the Table view the first 3 columns are Date, Orders, and Quantity.

What do the Orders and Quantity columns represent? Is one telling me how much has been purchased on a given day, or how many have been put up for sale on a given day?

thanks.

Morgan Grim
Posted - 2009.02.18 22:58:00 - [180]
 

I think I figured it out. I think Orders is how many separate purchases were made on that specific day, and Quantity is the total items bought from those purchases on that day.


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