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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
Posted - 2011.07.08 15:01:00 - [631]
 

Edited by: Tigerras on 08/07/2011 15:01:49
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Tigerras


Another serious question:

Is it worth trying to run a third party service if you have no intention of aiding in transfers of capital ships? Is there a market for sub-capital third party services? What is a reasonable price to charge for such a thing?


There is certainly a market for third party services outside of supercap transfers as bonds, loans, lotteries, bets and such like all need securing. I'm not sure whether it is something worth aiming at as a goal, though. You are unlikely to make huge amounts of isk from it but the isk you do make will be fairly low effort and it is the low effort that is the attraction. But getting yourself to a position where people trust you sufficiently to engage your services would not be low effort if pursued purely for the goal of becoming a third party. Really, getting asked to do third party work tends to be a side-effect of doing something else (like running bonds or lotteries) that involves being trusted with isk. As to costs, it varies depending on the jobbut as an example I might charge 100mil per month for securing a bond with an arrangement that will require me to put an alt into a corp as CEO.


Makes sense. I figured it might make a nice, easy extra income, but probably should be something I wait a bit to try to do. I'm evaluating other options atm as well.

Thanks for the info.

Nikolaj Jagd
Posted - 2011.07.30 15:23:00 - [632]
 

Question regarding station trading.

Hi guys I have a little question regarding station trading.
Yesterday i gave an alt 20 mil isk, and sent it to amarr (tried in dodixie first)
My problem is, i have to change my orders every 5 minutes :s i can't find any items in which i can keep my price in more than 5 minutes. And it seems like, whenever someone buys at a higher price than I, that is the exact 5 minutes where all the items are sold to them :S

So put simply, i can't buy enough stuff to actually get anything to sell :S
Do you guys recommend that i trade in another system or what to do?

odama jasonsson
Caldari
Het Kruitvat
Tin Can Alliance
Posted - 2011.08.03 12:18:00 - [633]
 

Edited by: odama jasonsson on 03/08/2011 12:18:42
Originally by: Nikolaj Jagd
Question regarding station trading.

Hi guys I have a little question regarding station trading.
Yesterday i gave an alt 20 mil isk, and sent it to amarr (tried in dodixie first)
My problem is, i have to change my orders every 5 minutes :s i can't find any items in which i can keep my price in more than 5 minutes. And it seems like, whenever someone buys at a higher price than I, that is the exact 5 minutes where all the items are sold to them :S

So put simply, i can't buy enough stuff to actually get anything to sell :S
Do you guys recommend that i trade in another system or what to do?


2 tips:
-Don't place all your bets on one horse
-When trading in a trade hub this is going to happen sooner or later. either you start doing a different kind of trading, or you have to check more often.

Borkers
Posted - 2011.08.08 01:26:00 - [634]
 

Originally by: Nikolaj Jagd
Question regarding station trading.

Hi guys I have a little question regarding station trading.
Yesterday i gave an alt 20 mil isk, and sent it to amarr (tried in dodixie first)
My problem is, i have to change my orders every 5 minutes :s i can't find any items in which i can keep my price in more than 5 minutes. And it seems like, whenever someone buys at a higher price than I, that is the exact 5 minutes where all the items are sold to them :S

So put simply, i can't buy enough stuff to actually get anything to sell :S
Do you guys recommend that i trade in another system or what to do?


Two things to try:

1) The conservative approach. Offer more money. If the buy price is 300 and the sell price is 330, don't offer 301 ISK. Offer 310. The other traders will at least be tempted to ignore your offer and continue piddling around 300. Remember: 2% of something is more than 10% of nothing.
2) The aggressive approach. Break your buy order into several smaller orders, so you can change prices more often. This is a lot more work, but it gives you more control.

Borkers
Posted - 2011.08.21 23:10:00 - [635]
 

For manufacturers selling T1 goods in Jita:

Why do you bother? I'm considering getting started with manufacturing, and looking at various blueprints. Even with Material Levels over 200, and Production Efficiency V, almost every T1 manufactured good is worth less than its component minerals on the Jita market. If you use a cheaper source for minerals, why don't you just sell those minerals for a markup in Jita?

Blaze Stigma
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2011.08.22 13:25:00 - [636]
 

is any one had trouble Last night with market? i try to sell some ice. but i didnt get **** for it in isk. so i am ask all of you if you had that problem? also when i sold it told me i had 25 when i really had 3445 . this is pis**ng me off so yea

Nubbinss
Posted - 2011.08.30 18:21:00 - [637]
 

Noob here. I have searched for an answer to my trading question but did not find one, but apologies if it has been answered.

I have been dabbling in trade, and have a decent working knowledge (for a noob) of the system. However, the other day, selling something into a buy order, the max buy order in the region for the item was 3400isk per... but the buy order when i hit sell was giving me 4400isk per. I had not noticed this discrepancy before, the price I was able to get for dumping an item equaled the best price reaching my location. I have regional buy/sell/adjust powers - but not 40 jumps. I have been able to see buy orders before that covered 40 jumps, so I wasn't sure if maybe there was something larger that affected the price I received for my item, that I lacked skills to visibly see.

Is it possible that someone had much higher market skills than I had placed a 4400ISK buy order that for whatever reason, i was not even capable of seeing? What would account for a buy price higher than any of the visible ones I could see?

Tekota
The Freighter Factory
Posted - 2011.08.31 06:57:00 - [638]
 

Originally by: Nubbinss
Noob here. I have searched for an answer to my trading question but did not find one, but apologies if it has been answered.

I have been dabbling in trade, and have a decent working knowledge (for a noob) of the system. However, the other day, selling something into a buy order, the max buy order in the region for the item was 3400isk per... but the buy order when i hit sell was giving me 4400isk per. I had not noticed this discrepancy before, the price I was able to get for dumping an item equaled the best price reaching my location. I have regional buy/sell/adjust powers - but not 40 jumps. I have been able to see buy orders before that covered 40 jumps, so I wasn't sure if maybe there was something larger that affected the price I received for my item, that I lacked skills to visibly see.

Is it possible that someone had much higher market skills than I had placed a 4400ISK buy order that for whatever reason, i was not even capable of seeing? What would account for a buy price higher than any of the visible ones I could see?


There are no skills that relate to which market buy orders you can see and sell to - ie. everyone, regardless of SP, can sell to other people's buy orders and can see every buy order in a region.

Two possibilities for what you described:
  • Either (a) the 4400 buy order was always there but your column sorting was off (eg. you had it sorted by age or quantity or location or something other than by buy price) so you didn't see it.

  • Or (b) somebody created their 4400 buy order just as you were clicking buttons and lining up to sell.


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