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Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2009.11.01 05:29:00 - [331]
 

Originally by: Dibsi Dei
What happens when an IPO is over? I have shares and receive monthly payment from some corporations. How do I get the initial investment back when an IPO is over?

How the IPO wraps up should have been described in the launch, however, depending on the arrangement, there might be no plans to wrap it up... in that case you should probably expect your monthly income to continue indefinitely, or as long as the business continues to operate.

As an alternative way to get your investment out, you might be able to sell your shares to someone else who wants to get that monthly income.

cocou
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2009.11.15 22:28:00 - [332]
 

So I read the rules in the timecode bazaar and I'm wondering what constitutes a bump? Is ANY reply considered a bump or can I change the price or add some info more than once? I'm not looking for a way around just a clarification on what a bump is exactly.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.11.15 22:31:00 - [333]
 

Originally by: cocou
So I read the rules in the timecode bazaar and I'm wondering what constitutes a bump? Is ANY reply considered a bump or can I change the price or add some info more than once? I'm not looking for a way around just a clarification on what a bump is exactly.

I think you best bet at an answer for that, would be to fill a petition in the Community category ingame. Then one of the moderators will answer you question.

cocou
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2009.11.15 22:48:00 - [334]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: cocou
So I read the rules in the timecode bazaar and I'm wondering what constitutes a bump? Is ANY reply considered a bump or can I change the price or add some info more than once? I'm not looking for a way around just a clarification on what a bump is exactly.

I think you best bet at an answer for that, would be to fill a petition in the Community category ingame. Then one of the moderators will answer you question.


Why? Is it a secret?

Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.11.16 01:57:00 - [335]
 

Originally by: cocou
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: cocou
So I read the rules in the timecode bazaar and I'm wondering what constitutes a bump? Is ANY reply considered a bump or can I change the price or add some info more than once? I'm not looking for a way around just a clarification on what a bump is exactly.

I think you best bet at an answer for that, would be to fill a petition in the Community category ingame. Then one of the moderators will answer you question.


Why? Is it a secret?


I wouldn't call it a secret, it's one of those things that should be explained to you by the individuals that created the rules. We could tell you what we think a bump is but then again we aren't the ones that will or will not have a problem with how you bump your threads. The safest bet is to ask those in charge of the "bump" policy so that you know exactly what is ok and what is not.

Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2009.11.19 01:24:00 - [336]
 

Originally by: cocou
So I read the rules in the timecode bazaar and I'm wondering what constitutes a bump? Is ANY reply considered a bump or can I change the price or add some info more than once? I'm not looking for a way around just a clarification on what a bump is exactly.

Changing your price and adding some information about your product might be better accomplished by editing your original post, especially since that gives you a chance to keep the subject line of your thread up to date.

Choosing a thread-bumping reply for something that is well-suited to a non-bumping edit might make it look like you are bumping on purpose.

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2009.11.22 05:32:00 - [337]
 

I am working on getting into an area of production. I made a spreadsheet with the unresearched BPO information to figure costs at the unresearched level. For production, I am buying BPCs until I can afford the BPO.

I'm not necessarily the best person at trading. Is there any way I could try and sell to someone who loves trading? (Sell at say, Jita - 5-10%, so they can still profit) or am I forced to haul the stuff and sell.


Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2009.11.23 04:21:00 - [338]
 

Originally by: Forranz
Is there any way I could try and sell to someone who loves trading? (Sell at say, Jita - 5-10%, so they can still profit) or am I forced to haul the stuff and sell.

If you have a bunch of stuff that you want to sell at below-Sell-Order 'wholesale prices' outside major trade hubs, you could simply list the stuff on the market where you build it at your discounted prices, or you might post in the Sell Orders forum to solicit business (or both).

If the main thing you want to avoid is the hauling, you might consider courier contracts as a cheap way to get stuff shipped around. Within a few jumps of a hub, you might consider offering Courier Contracts with rewards of 0.1% of full-market-price-collateral.

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2009.11.23 07:33:00 - [339]
 

Yeah, hauling isn't necessarily an issue as I use a freighter. I was figuring that having a buyer who would buy say all my product, all the time, would be a better incentive than me having to train up a trade alt and sit on my orders myself. Trading isn't my thing and I may not be good at it, it's the main thing I like to avoid.

I guess I should train the alt. I'll try the sell order forum deal though -- Thanks.

Dzil
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2009.11.25 19:29:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Forranz
Yeah, hauling isn't necessarily an issue as I use a freighter. I was figuring that having a buyer who would buy say all my product, all the time, would be a better incentive than me having to train up a trade alt and sit on my orders myself. Trading isn't my thing and I may not be good at it, it's the main thing I like to avoid.

I guess I should train the alt. I'll try the sell order forum deal though -- Thanks.


Sell order forum is a perfect idea. You may also want to sell the items via sell order, or sell one to a highest buy order, and use your market transactions to get names of big movers of that product. Reach out by EVE mail and see if they are interested in arranging a regular purchase.

I entered into something similar over the summer time with some R.A.M. and made a small fortune, while the producer was able to comfortably continue his production lines knowing his product could be liquidated back to isk in a timely manner. Would probably still be doing it if EVE wasn't so on my back burner at the moment.


Estel Arador
Posted - 2009.12.02 20:55:00 - [341]
 

I have a quick question on shareholders and expulsion from corp.
I know an expulsion vote is needed to expel (some?) shareholders. Does this apply to any shareholders (with 1 or more shares) or only to shareholders with a certain percentage of shares?

Victriferusianus
Posted - 2009.12.06 09:41:00 - [342]
 

I have a need for a software that would allow me to check the mineral value of a reprocessed item quickly given the name of the item. Any ideas?

bombre4life
Posted - 2009.12.10 11:36:00 - [343]
 

I have acquired several deadspace modules which i cannot find in the contracts at all or there's just one order which makes me wonder how much they are really worth. The items are Gistum B-Type and C-Type medium shield transporters and a Gistum C-Type Kinetic shield amp.

Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2009.12.12 15:02:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: bombre4life
I have acquired several deadspace modules which i cannot find in the contracts at all or there's just one order which makes me wonder how much they are really worth. The items are Gistum B-Type and C-Type medium shield transporters and a Gistum C-Type Kinetic shield amp.

I see that you didn't ask a question. If you meant 'For how much can I sell these items?', then you may want to post in the Price Checks forum. You could also try asking for feedback in an in-game channel like Modules and Munitions, or you might simply try Google or eve-search.com for past sales via the Sell Orders forum.

If your meaning was something else, please clarify.

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2009.12.17 17:15:00 - [345]
 

I checked and did not see, but if you had to rank the importance of each trade skill, what would it be?

I do region trading and station trading if that's what you would be wondering. Currently working on Trading IV.

So would skills like Visibility and Procurement not be as important to me?Embarassed

Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.12.17 17:19:00 - [346]
 

To me personally market is order is most important, the more the better.

Barton Foley
Posted - 2009.12.18 04:32:00 - [347]
 

Originally by: Ji Sama
To me personally market is order is most important, the more the better.


I agree, but only because everyone should have trained Broker Relations and Accounting up as a matter of course.

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2009.12.18 05:02:00 - [348]
 

Originally by: Barton Foley
I agree, but only because everyone should have trained Broker Relations and Accounting up as a matter of course.


Would Level 4 be an acceptable level for it rather than 5? or is it one of those skills that is a "must have" at 5?

Thanks.

Jitajitajitajitajita
Posted - 2009.12.21 13:07:00 - [349]
 

Hello! First of all Id like to say thanks for this sticky, its really a great source of information.

Now.. I'm one of those guys who finaly growed up to do something serious and try trading. So far I have tried 3 diffrent trading methods and Id like to ask if Im on good way or Im doing it totaly wrong.

1. Station trading
So I found a few items that looked promising, placed buy orders and... it take soooo much time to fill those buy orders so I started to think that something is wrong. (I tried this in one of major trading hubs so probably thats one of reasons)
Most of items have quantity that is being moved in range of 50-300 per day (thats for most T2, named items I found). If Im lucky and Im checking my orders regularly then I can buy 5-10 of each item via buy order. Is that normal in busy trade hubs or should I try harder?

2. Trading between trade hub and mission hub.
What I mean is that I was buying items in trade hub (from sell orders) and placing my own sell orders in mission hub with 50-100% profit margin. Problem is that this is in my opinion a 'hit or miss' game.

Example. Im buying something for 500k in trade hub and selling same item for 900k in mission hub. But my sales are not showed in price history. That means I cant research market that way so my only chance is to buy something and test it. Now Ive tested about 50 diffrent items from which only 2 are actualy selling a lot, another 28 are selling but sloooooooowly, maybe 1-2 per day if Im lucky, rest are not selling at all (thats after 4 days of testing, not to long but if something aint selling within 4 days then thats bad right?)

Is my approach a good one, thats how it works and I should keep looking or again Im doing it wrong?

3. Trading between trading hubs.
Now its almost same as Nr.2 but instead of trading between trade hub and mission hub within same region, I tried trading between trading hubs from diffrent regions. Now I was told that Jita is good, Jita is cheap so I thought that Id buy from Jita (same approach as before, buying from sell orders) and place sell orders in diffrent region. So I exported lots and lots of market data on diffrent items from both regions and compared in Eve Market Scanner. I was shocked beacouse prices on almost 95% items in Jita were actualy higher.

So my question is same, am I doing something wrong? Am I actualy forced to use buy orders or Jita isnt that good and would be better to avoijd it and try something diffrent? (for example buying in Minmatar territory, selling in Amarr territory as they are enemies and shooting each other so loot from Minmatar space have better chance to sell in Amarr space?)


Regards
Newbie Trader :)

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2009.12.21 21:29:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Forranz
Originally by: Barton Foley
I agree, but only because everyone should have trained Broker Relations and Accounting up as a matter of course.


Would Level 4 be an acceptable level for it rather than 5? or is it one of those skills that is a "must have" at 5?

Thanks.


Level 4 is enough. Higher is better, of course, but you can be serious with Level 4. Working with extremely tight margins, of course, you need Level 5. The less fees you have the smaller the profit margins you can work with, but Level 5 is not a requirement, even in Jita.

kilondar
Amarr
Posted - 2009.12.22 23:55:00 - [351]
 

Hello all, long time lurker, first time poster.

After reading through most of the guides in the sticky post, I am just wondering if there are any market / business classes available. I've seen quite a few PvP classes offered by alliances, but I have only seen casual remarks about business classes.
If anyone could point me in the right direction to find a good Market / Business class, it would be greatly appreciated.

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2009.12.26 04:17:00 - [352]
 

This question is in regards to Margin Trading.
"Reduces the amount of escrow you have to provide when making buy orders, by a cumulative 25% per level. At level 5, this means that you have to put up about 24% of the purchase price."

Mine is currently at Level 4. I've done a bit of reading and some people say "Put up 2-3x what you have in your wallet" regarding buy orders. What my underlying question is, is that do I need to leave a certain amount in my wallet when I go asking for more than I have?

Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
Posted - 2009.12.27 19:43:00 - [353]
 

Edited by: Thoraemond on 27/12/2009 19:47:07
Edit: fixed typo.


Originally by: kilondar
I am just wondering if there are any market / business classes available. I've seen quite a few PvP classes offered by alliances, but I have only seen casual remarks about business classes.
If anyone could point me in the right direction to find a good Market / Business class, it would be greatly appreciated.

It's not 100% accurate, but for a mostly-pretty-good audio session, you could try hexxx.rar.


Originally by: Forranz
This question is in regards to Margin Trading.
Mine is currently at Level 4. I've done a bit of reading and some people say "Put up 2-3x what you have in your wallet" regarding buy orders. What my underlying question is, is that do I need to leave a certain amount in my wallet when I go asking for more than I have?

The amount you should keep in your wallet is related to how much actual ISK your orders will use. I.e., the skill doesn't allow you to actually buy things with notional ISK, just place orders with notional ISK. When your purchases occur, they are drawing your ISK from escrow and/or from your wallet. Every time your actual ISK is insufficient to cover a possible transaction, that order is cancelled and the transaction fails.

So you should have enough ISK in your wallet to cover the transactions that you expect to occur, and perhaps a bit more if you want to play it safe.

E.g., you have one buy order for 5 million ISK, which requires, say, 2 million ISK in escrow (given some Margin Trading skills), and you've kept 1 million in your wallet. This means that your 5 million ISK bid is 40% covered by that 2 million ISK in escrow, and your market orders screen will show something along the lines of '3 million ISK to cover', meaning that you will need (at some point) 3 million ISK in your wallet to see that whole order filled. If someone tried to sell to your buy order to the amount of 3.1 million ISK right now, your escrow ISK + wallet ISK would not be sufficient and the order would be cancelled, and you would get none of the items that the person was selling. You would also get the ISK back from escrow, so your wallet would be back to 3 million ISK.

If you have a large variety of bids, it becomes unlikely that they will all get filled at the same time, so on a practical level, you probably only need a fraction of the 'ISK to cover' available in your wallet.

Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
Posted - 2009.12.27 21:04:00 - [354]
 

Looks like we've passed the 1 year mark on this thread. I think it's been a great help to many individuals and my thanks go out to all of you who have contributed your answers. Happy Holidays.

Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Posted - 2009.12.27 22:55:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Looks like we've passed the 1 year mark on this thread. I think it's been a great help to many individuals and my thanks go out to all of you who have contributed your answers. Happy Holidays.


reported for bumping a stickied thread.

Darwin's Market
Posted - 2009.12.28 12:17:00 - [356]
 

T1 items, timecodes and Character prices are some of the lowest I have ever seen in many years. CCP haved already attempted to fix the T2 prices with Dominion and it is working quite well in my opinion as T2 ship prices and about a third of modules went up in price, so I wonder if they will do something about T1 minerals next.

The sagging prices on minerals is a sad state, don't get me wrong I can't stand mining and enjoy the cheap prices as I only fly T1 ships.

It seems to me a 0.0 mining boost and insurance nerf is around the corner.

If they were, what would should one invest in?

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2009.12.28 15:55:00 - [357]
 

Originally by: Darwin's Market
It seems to me a 0.0 mining boost and insurance nerf is around the corner.


Which, given only that, would sag mineral prices even more (higher supply, lower mineral basket floor).

Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
Posted - 2009.12.28 18:43:00 - [358]
 

So thanks to the guidance from people in MD, giving me ideas as to what skills to train to benefit me the most initially. I've begun making at least 20mil a day trading. My best being 87mil on Dec 22nd.

Without specifying what items to buy, is there anyway to ramp this up so I make 100mil+ a day? My only thought is get more orders. I'm finishing up Retail V then going for Wholesale IV. I hear of traders making billions a day and I am at a loss. For the most part I like sticking to the region I am in.

I'm not looking to infringe on anybodies business but if there are any tips that I can't think of and you are able to let me know, I'd appreciate it. It's amazing at what a character with 1.6M SP in trading can do!

flakeys
The Great cornholio's
Paper Tiger Coalition
Posted - 2009.12.28 18:53:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Looks like we've passed the 1 year mark on this thread. I think it's been a great help to many individuals and my thanks go out to all of you who have contributed your answers. Happy Holidays.


Couldn't agree more , this has been an excellent way to help new people while keeping the threads on the same subject limited.


NyteTyger
Gallente
NiteSun Enterprises
Posted - 2009.12.30 17:06:00 - [360]
 

What is the 'proper' structure for a short term loan with collateral? What repayment terms and interest rates would be considered the average?


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