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Sybylle
Amarr
ICE is Coming to EVE
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2004.07.12 14:20:00 - [1]
 

Hello all :p

Well...Just some things I want to sort out, to know if it's coming from my agent (in this case, I should find a better, pretty difficult as the next one is a level IV) or from my NPC corp (that suddendly doesn't likes me anymore) or, at last, from the last(s) patch(es)...in this case I ask for a fix...

So here is my flaming ^^ :

1 -> Scary Agents 3

I've been working for a level III agent for a long time, enought to get interesting missions with 4/5 35k and a 85/90k almost each time and getting a lot of tech II components as reward.

Then, after the last patch, I suddenly received s**tty stuff...
I checked my standing, and nothing was wrong...
My agent seems still friendly...It's a 18 in quality, with 42 in effective standing.

My standing still growing up, I had access to another agent, 19 in quality...and I moved to him expecting to get at least my previous rewards.

Now...I like the scenarios and stuff like that...But this is ridiculous.
I get 1 mission on 20 with something interesting to kill (read : over 35k), and 18 missions on 20 send me killing stupid frigates armies...Where is the chalenge?
Put less frigates, and more cruisers. I want more 110k (got 2 since patch).
Send them by pack of 2 or 3...I want my ship taking real damage from them...There is no fun at all taking down frigates, unless you make them coming by pack of 10 or more (so I cannot lock them allTwisted Evil)

2 -> Lost in Translation

Where are the tech II components? Are some agents still receiving them? Does the latest patch borked their corporation's industry slots (Twisted Evil)

I don't feel I'm making important missions for my agent when he gives me 43 Microwave S, or 13 small standard containers...Or more usefull for an Amarr cruiser... 1000 rockets or 12000 small iridium charges.

If I'm so important for him, he should give me less, but usefull stuff, more in accordance with my level. Excepted the quantity, a level 3 agent is now a level 1 quality stuff, but in more important quantities.

3 -> Bullets and numbering...

Be nice...Add a numbering to scenarios bookmarks. So far, the best way not to miss something is to delete the bookmark from the people and places tab when the frigates are killed... Adding numbers at the begining of each bookmark wouldn't be so time costing for you (Devs) but would be a nice addition.

Anybody wishing to comment or adding its own experience is welcomed.
I really think a lot of work has been done, but some tweaking is urgent!

Thanks !

Haratu
Shinie Stuff Salvagers
Posted - 2004.07.12 14:27:00 - [2]
 

Just because it is happening to you don't you think it is happening to everyone else too? Ask around you will find you are not alone.

This is not a bug, this is normal... My guess is that it is to compensate for the increase in implants that now abound thereby increasing the relative riches of agent runners.

If this effects everyone then i see no reaon for it to be changed... everyone is in the same boat, try not to sink it for them.

Sybylle
Amarr
ICE is Coming to EVE
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2004.07.12 14:51:00 - [3]
 

I do not want to sink the boat...Just to make it float.

I was asking firstly if it happens to others than me, and also if it doesn't need some improvements...

"If this effects everyone then i see no reaon for it to be changed"

This one is nice...If its borked it doesn't matters? What for are the patches and hotfixes applied so?

"Ask around you will find you are not alone"

Nice...That's what I'm doing, if you read my post at least...Not only the titles, but the content also.

"My guess is that it is to compensate for the increase in implants"

I wish I had more than II implants since the begining...No more implants and more important IMHO, no more tech II components since the latest patch.
As you cannot build components, I think it's quite embarassing.
Agents were dealing to many components before, now I got not even one.
Less than before is acceptable, but esle must be more than none...

Something more constructive about my suggestions?

Markus Dar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2004.07.12 18:35:00 - [4]
 

Quote:
3 -> Bullets and numbering...

Be nice...Add a numbering to scenarios bookmarks. So far, the best way not to miss something is to delete the bookmark from the people and places tab when the frigates are killed... Adding numbers at the begining of each bookmark wouldn't be so time costing for you (Devs) but would be a nice addition.



This annoyed me a bit when I first got the multiple-bookmark missions.

The bookmarks are numbered, but the numbers are at the end - so in space they just look like "Mission Bookmark..." where they really are "Mission Bookmark #1, #2 etc".

What I do now is before even leaving the station, I open up my People & Places and edit the bookmarks.. I put my own 1, 2 3 at the beginning.

But - suggestion to CCP - move the numbers to the beginning instead of the end :) Or shorten the Mission Bookmark descriptions so the numbers show up in space in the shortcuts.


Faster ThanJesus
Caldari
EVE Cemetery
Posted - 2004.07.12 18:52:00 - [5]
 

In my experience the agent reward system is pretty eractic (particularly changing after patches)

I believe the devs have a system of measuring the the overall rewards that agent runners are getting and then adapting the bonus tables to suit (At least I believe TomB once stated this)

Other decisions may be made on the market value of items... T2 modules/ships too cheap, reduce T2 component bonuses... and so on.

But hey, cheer up, level 4 agents are sheduled for early august :) (blind optimism prevails)


Morkalum Takor
Minmatar
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2004.07.12 19:28:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Morkalum Takor on 12/07/2004 19:30:37
The way I handle the multiple target missions is:

1. Undock from station. If the target locations are not in system I jump to the mission's system.

2. I then open up Peoples and Places scroll down to the list till the first mission location pops up.

3. I click on it once so its highlights the bookmark.

4. Minimize Peoples and Places window.

5. I then warp to the first mission location, kill the rats.

6. Maximize Peoples and Places window and click on the second mission location and warp to it and repeat the process.Very Happy

*Note: For people who will say that they have too many bookmarks in their places folder, it means it's time to organize your bm's into seperate folders.Twisted Evil

*Note II: I click on the bookmark's once each time I cycle through them so I know which ones I have visited and which ones I still need to go to.

Dev Larren
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2004.07.13 06:27:00 - [7]
 

... or you just delete each bookmark from "people and places" after you have been to that spot.

Sybylle
Amarr
ICE is Coming to EVE
Tau Ceti Federation
Posted - 2004.07.13 09:28:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Dev Larren
... or you just delete each bookmark from "people and places" after you have been to that spot.


That's what I do...Best solution IMHO...

What makes me think the agent mission needs some tuning is for instance what kind of missions it provides.

Yesterday I've been doing no less than 20 missions.
ISK rewards where fine...Generally between 85-120k.
I had better frigates pack (4 10k and a 30k mostly).
What disappointed me is the kind of mission : 15 of them where "Avenge a Fallen Comrade".
I mean, being a friend of this agent is not a good thing Laughing

More variety would be ok.

Does anybody of you had Tech II components since the patch?
Nobody in my corp so far could put his hands on some...

I'm working for the Amarr Navy, I have 6.47 in standing with them.
I'm lvl IV in all social skills, 40 in standing with my agent.

--> good to know for lvl IV agent ^^
I hope they will be out soon™

Thanks for your replies !


 

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