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CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2008.11.26 11:24:00 - [1]
 

Here, now, a little late, is a story about someone who may be a bad man, doing what may be good things. Beyond that, I leave you to judge him yourself.

For those who aren't sure: Caldari Prime was taken by the Gallente a long time ago, and recently recaptured by the Caldari in a bloody invasion. It is not a nice place to live.

Devilish Ledoux
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.11.26 12:34:00 - [2]
 

It was never a nice place to live. That's why we're so damned tough.

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.26 12:40:00 - [3]
 

Does not make sense that one operative would compromize the entire operation by saying he has a bomb on him when there were many other operatives that would get the job done.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2008.11.26 13:06:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Does not make sense that one operative would compromize the entire operation by saying he has a bomb on him when there were many other operatives that would get the job done.


I get the feeling these "operatives" not are top of the line spies with prober mental training but simple people who feels like having lost all at are now pursuing a simple goal in life: to take vengeance and those who took all from them.

It is also interesting to note that whoever is behind these "operatives" certainly not are doing it for the greater good of the Federation, and that could be intentionally.

CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2008.11.26 13:13:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Does not make sense that one operative would compromize the entire operation by saying he has a bomb on him when there were many other operatives that would get the job done.
He's got one chance to do this before his body gives up on him, and has just been faced with a cop who's about to turn the shuttle around and take that chance from him. Desperate times...

Blood Titan
Posted - 2008.11.26 13:39:00 - [6]
 

Interesting so far, so how exactly are these bombs activated. They wouldnt want to set it off by beating on him or anything like that there must be some sort of detonator. I want to know what happens next! lol

Cal Darinne
Caldari
Posted - 2008.11.26 13:41:00 - [7]
 

I wonder what was the ending for the story... Does the shuttle blow up, or does the thug get to reveal their plot and bring them to their knees?

Personally I hate gallente, you can imagine why, but I always had a great respect for them, because I thought they stood for something, democracy, unity... All those things we caldari are fighting for.. But this... turning themselves into bombs? That's pathetic and shows a total lack of class and finesse.

All in all, I'm glad we're not on the same team... ****in` Gallente scum...

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Posted - 2008.11.26 14:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Does not make sense that one operative would compromize the entire operation by saying he has a bomb on him when there were many other operatives that would get the job done.
He's got one chance to do this before his body gives up on him, and has just been faced with a cop who's about to turn the shuttle around and take that chance from him. Desperate times...

Yes but like I said, there were others and it is irrelevant whenether he personally makes it or not, as long as the others do.

Zarch AlDain
GK inc.
Posted - 2008.11.26 15:16:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Does not make sense that one operative would compromize the entire operation by saying he has a bomb on him when there were many other operatives that would get the job done.
He's got one chance to do this before his body gives up on him, and has just been faced with a cop who's about to turn the shuttle around and take that chance from him. Desperate times...

Yes but like I said, there were others and it is irrelevant whenether he personally makes it or not, as long as the others do.


Yes, I was thinking that as well...although it's possible he was in some way critical (or at least thought he was) to the success of the mission.

Avel Kereka
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2008.11.26 17:04:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Avel Kereka on 26/11/2008 17:17:06
Wait, so was Nouvelle Rouvenor done by Caldari or by Gallente?

(Oh, and this line--"I knew someone once who thought he had all the answers. Took a while before I realized he didn't; he just stayed in control of the questions"--was quite brilliant)

Kalec Amagosh
Caldari
Posted - 2008.11.26 17:11:00 - [11]
 

The way the story was told ... it leads me to believe that these human bombs were not meant to destroy the dome in one shot ... that's why there's so many of them so maybe, just maybe, by stopping this second transport of "bombs" would mean that the others won't be able to blow up the dome, then again maybe one of them gets lucky. Point is that there are fewer of them and the caldari know that it's going to happen and they could probably stop it somehow ... it's still better than nothing IMO

Wulf Tarkin
Gallente
Q3 - TnR
Posted - 2008.11.26 19:13:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Cal Darinne

Personally I hate gallente, you can imagine why, but I always had a great respect for them, because I thought they stood for something, democracy, unity... All those things we caldari are fighting for.. But this... turning themselves into bombs? That's pathetic and shows a total lack of class and finesse.


We Gallente as a Federation do still stand for democracy, unity and the safety of the body politic, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Without jumping into the political maelstrom of today, fanatics are strapping bombs to themselves, in a perceived last-ditch effort to maintain their way of life, and for some this is the only option left to them.

They believe that they have nothing to lose, that by sacrificing themselves they will create bad feeling against their 'aggressors', just like this Gallente 'rebel'. I don't agree with or condone this practice of warfare, but you have to look at both sides of the coin.

Incidentally, aren't there accounts throughout the ages of men making suicidal rushes against tanks or artillery, against armoured and well armed positions, taking the view that there's nothing left and by sacrificing themselves they may ensure the survival of their fellows? Something to think about, certainly.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2008.11.26 19:33:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Does not make sense that one operative would compromize the entire operation by saying he has a bomb on him when there were many other operatives that would get the job done.
He's got one chance to do this before his body gives up on him, and has just been faced with a cop who's about to turn the shuttle around and take that chance from him. Desperate times...

Yes but like I said, there were others and it is irrelevant whenether he personally makes it or not, as long as the others do.

I'd say it's not about 'them' or 'us' or 'the cause' but mostly about himself and his own need for vengeance. It's more a personal obsession than a 'heroic sacrifice'.

Jacques Benoit
Gallente
Ion Armaments
Posted - 2008.11.26 19:39:00 - [14]
 

A true Gallentean Rebel would blow that shuttle up, hopefully the information that Caldari officer obtained would be lost a long with it... Maybe the others would make it!

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2008.11.26 21:20:00 - [15]
 

Guess noone (maybe except Abraxas ^^) knows who actually was responsible for the initial Nouvelle Rouvenor incident. Could have been done by either side, just to get the war rolling.


For the behaviour of the gallentean human-bomb guy, you expect him to act cold hearted and rational in that situation? He is human at last and his only left purpose in life has just been taken away from him. His reaction is totally understandable.

And in case he blows up the submarine shuttle, as even our planes nowadays have flight recorders I guess it's reasonable to believe that every shuttle has a transmission being sent out before hull collapse containing the video and speech feeds of every cell onboard, as that would make sense after all.
So imho if he blows up the shuttle, caldari government/forces on caldari prime will be aware of the treat.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2008.11.26 21:32:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Avel Kereka
Edited by: Avel Kereka on 26/11/2008 17:17:06
Wait, so was Nouvelle Rouvenor done by Caldari or by Gallente?

(Oh, and this line--"I knew someone once who thought he had all the answers. Took a while before I realized he didn't; he just stayed in control of the questions"--was quite brilliant)

The Caldari

At the end...
Quote:
The turning point came when Caldari partisans sabotaged the glass dome of the Gallente-inhabited underwater city Nouvelle Rouvenor. More than half a million perished. From then on a lengthy, bloody war between the two races was all but inevitable the Federation retaliated at once by sending an invasion force down to Caldari Prime and began a systematic orbital bombardment of the planet. Soon, the Caldari population had been driven to the mountains and the forests; their resistance getting weaker by the day. The only question was: how would the newly formed Caldari State respond?


Brilliant writing as always, abraxas. the more grey, the better it is.

Avel Kereka
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2008.11.26 21:52:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Myxx
The Caldari

That's what I thought but while reading the story I got the impression that while that was the "official" history, the Caldari guard was referring to the Gallente bombing Nouvelle Rouvenor. Or, he might've just been referring to cracking the dome of an underwater city, regardless of who's doing it.

Still, it would've been a nice touch if it turned out that the Gallente were responsible for bombing NR in order to incite the war.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2008.11.27 03:11:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Myxx on 27/11/2008 03:11:40
Originally by: Avel Kereka
Originally by: Myxx
The Caldari

That's what I thought but while reading the story I got the impression that while that was the "official" history, the Caldari guard was referring to the Gallente bombing Nouvelle Rouvenor. Or, he might've just been referring to cracking the dome of an underwater city, regardless of who's doing it.

Still, it would've been a nice touch if it turned out that the Gallente were responsible for bombing NR in order to incite the war.


it was stated in the novel, somewhere around introducing tibus heth, that he was apart of the group that sabotaged NR and otro gariushi recognised the tatoo when he was talking to foritain. so no, it was entirely caldari that did it. unless ccp says otherwise, of course.

Gaelenus
Gallente
Society of the Crimson Flame
Posted - 2008.11.27 04:29:00 - [19]
 

is it just me that sees the down-under/ austrailia joke in this chronicle? Laughing

Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Posted - 2008.11.27 13:18:00 - [20]
 

I expected moar mermaids

Enthes goldhart
Gallente
Mindstar Technology
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2008.11.27 15:42:00 - [21]
 

Very nice story

Abrazzar
Posted - 2008.11.27 16:22:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Kappas.
I expected moar mermaids

You need more liquid explosives in your bloodstream before you start seeing mermaids. Wink

Heyte
Posted - 2008.11.28 21:42:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Jacques Benoit
A true Gallentean Rebel would blow that shuttle up, hopefully the information that Caldari officer obtained would be lost a long with it... Maybe the others would make it!


Except losing the shuttle would probably incite suspicion, and with a log of all that happened prior to the journey, the others might be held down longer, especially considering they required the word of the officer to end the investigation.

Trabber Shir
Caldari
5I Incorporated
Posted - 2008.11.29 03:53:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Heyte
Originally by: Jacques Benoit
A true Gallentean Rebel would blow that shuttle up, hopefully the information that Caldari officer obtained would be lost a long with it... Maybe the others would make it!


Except losing the shuttle would probably incite suspicion, and with a log of all that happened prior to the journey, the others might be held down longer, especially considering they required the word of the officer to end the investigation.


There was no investigation. He was lying to try to get the guy to not blow up the shuttle.

hence this part:

"You're lying," he said.

I was. "Maybe I am," I said.

Zex Maxwell
Caldari
Posted - 2008.11.30 18:55:00 - [25]
 

Quote:
As he started to move, I lunged for him.


NOOO!!!! the story is not done! WHAT HAPPENED NEXT! T.T

Jarriadod
Posted - 2008.12.01 00:41:00 - [26]
 

"Some words change everything. 'Sniper' is one. I'm told 'love' is another. 'Incoming' is pretty big these days..."

Brilliant!

Lusulpher
Gallente
Posted - 2008.12.01 07:30:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Lusulpher on 01/12/2008 07:33:06
Edited by: Lusulpher on 01/12/2008 07:32:35
Originally by: Jarriadod
"Some words change everything. 'Sniper' is one. I'm told 'love' is another. 'Incoming' is pretty big these days..."

Brilliant!


This is quite Quotable For Truth.

Also: 'late'. As in "I lunged much too late." or "I'm late. What do you mean you're late? I mean, I'm late... Oh God x 8" Laughing

Rachel Voegel
San Matar Trucking Company
Posted - 2008.12.02 16:29:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Avel Kereka
Oh, and this line--"I knew someone once who thought he had all the answers. Took a while before I realized he didn't; he just stayed in control of the questions"--was quite brilliant

yes, I liked that too. Cool

Araxmas
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
Black Core Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.07 04:19:00 - [29]
 

Brilliant

Red Katherine
Ammatar Free Corps
Posted - 2008.12.08 17:52:00 - [30]
 

"You're a vicious thug," he said to me.

"I'm a part of the State," I said. "And you are not."
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AWESOME! Great work and a very enjoyable read, as usual, Abraxas.


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