| Author |
Topic |
Covert Kitty
Amarr
SRS Industries
SRS. |
Posted - 2009.01.31 13:28:00 - [ 211]
IE = goodbye linux and mac
And both IE and FF are far too large and featured for what would be suitable for use inside Eve. Don't forget, you would have to extend them to support the custom things the IGB does now (like system and item links). In addition your opening yourself up for a great deal of additional maintenance work needing to keep up with security fixes, and on and on. Its also much harder to integrate than you think it is. In short, they aren't going to do something like that, nor is it a good idea to try.
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Dragonaire
Caldari
Corax.
PURgE Alliance |
Posted - 2009.01.31 21:00:00 - [ 212]
The engine that drives all the web browsers isn't that hard to integrate really and CCP has said they need to replace the current one to make some of the planned changes to the interface for all the walking in stations junk. Don't confuse the applications like Firefox etc with the base engine which is much smaller and made to be integrated. I'm running 3 applications all build on Gecko: Firefox, Songbird, and Komodo Edit and others like WebKit etc can/have also be adapted for different uses. Gecko also has the advantage that it does run on all 3 platforms that eve does and it's not alone in that but since they basically are using Wine to act like it still on a windows machine instead of making a native client that's also a moat point.
They don't need to include a full feature browser just the base engine that follows the web standards with all the current IGB added stuff would be fine. Have the extra headers isn't hard as there are add-ons you can use now to make Firefox look like IGB to sites and adding the extra handling for showinfo: etc is easy to do.
Most of the engines also have Python APIs so that isn't a problem either so I don't see any reason for CCP to spend the extra man-years to make their own again when with a few changes they can just integrate an existing proven engine. |
FlyingSfinks
Caldari
StarWindS |
Posted - 2009.02.01 12:33:00 - [ 213]
Yes. We need better IGB |
Mira Lemuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:53:00 - [ 214]
 Originally by: Covert Kitty
IE = goodbye linux and mac
And both IE and FF are far too large and featured for what would be suitable for use inside Eve. Don't forget, you would have to extend them to support the custom things the IGB does now (like system and item links). In addition your opening yourself up for a great deal of additional maintenance work needing to keep up with security fixes, and on and on. Its also much harder to integrate than you think it is. In short, they aren't going to do something like that, nor is it a good idea to try.
nah if they make it a very basic edit to it, the bugfixes made by the mozilla foundation/Open Source community, can be implemented easily |
Volucer S
Noob Fight Club
Reckless Chavs |
Posted - 2009.02.05 21:15:00 - [ 215]
/signed |
Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.02.07 10:43:00 - [ 216]
I'm indifferent, but imo there's 2 options
a) fix it and do it propper
or
b) take it out
I'm kinda indifferent, but you should chose one of the above. |
Dansel
Gallente
Telsa inc
Waterboard |
Posted - 2009.02.07 12:43:00 - [ 217]
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Wordon
Amarr
Red Fleet Corp
RED.OverLord |
Posted - 2009.02.09 11:39:00 - [ 218]
Yes, we need better IGB! |
Moizo
Abh Empire
Intrepid Crossing |
Posted - 2009.02.09 21:18:00 - [ 219]
I hope this will be fixed with the march patch, the corporation im in uses the IGB for pratically everything cause of the API check or something, its horrible speed makes it quite a nuisance so PLEASE fix it, doesn't have to be fancy and superfast, but just workable. |
UberHaqer
Gallente
Knights Of Anarchy
Shadow of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2009.02.09 21:48:00 - [ 220]
Edited by: UberHaqer on 09/02/2009 21:50:05 Originally by: Moizo
I hope this will be fixed with the march patch, the corporation im in uses the IGB for pratically everything cause of the API check or something, its horrible speed makes it quite a nuisance so PLEASE fix it, doesn't have to be fancy and superfast, but just workable.
Hear Hear |
Neelan
Minmatar
Vascerum Maximus Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 00:44:00 - [ 221]
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Ki Shodan
Gallente
deep blue
|
Posted - 2009.02.10 00:56:00 - [ 222]
I second this. |
Wurzelius Pacifistus
Amarr
The Confederate Navy |
Posted - 2009.02.10 05:06:00 - [ 223]
Aye! I'm with ya on this. |
Dodikaedr |
Posted - 2009.02.10 10:22:00 - [ 224]
Need to add a icon for making bookmarks! |
Mike C
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.02.10 23:51:00 - [ 225]
Originally by: Chruker
Sign this if you want CCP to prioritize the development of a better ingame browser
/signed Until then, I'll be using the xfire ingame browser (It even supports both eve-radio.com plugins, w00t) which makes the IGB look like my old Win3.1x |
Frozen Fallout
Gallente
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2009.02.12 03:42:00 - [ 226]
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Nefya |
Posted - 2009.02.14 11:47:00 - [ 227]
/signed |
Intigo
Amarr
Genos Occidere
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.02.14 16:16:00 - [ 228]
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Root'er
NeoCorteX Industry
Shadow of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2009.02.14 17:39:00 - [ 229]
/signed |
Yarblek Runningwolf |
Posted - 2009.02.14 17:41:00 - [ 230]
I have to say the in-game browser is so S L O W I often don't bother and just alt-tab out. A fix would be very nice |
Tex Wisestar
Gallente
shadow and cloaking
Mordus Angels |
Posted - 2009.02.15 01:20:00 - [ 231]
/signed |
Mikail Assimov |
Posted - 2009.02.15 01:49:00 - [ 232]
please make the IGB faster and more stable. At least to net standards or take it out.
Regards Mikail
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Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2009.02.15 13:56:00 - [ 233]
Signed. |
Akilum
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:21:00 - [ 234]
/signed |
Covert Kitty
Amarr
SRS Industries
SRS. |
Posted - 2009.02.16 01:57:00 - [ 235]
Edited by: Covert Kitty on 16/02/2009 02:00:12
Well whatever they decide to do __DO NOT__ take it out, or remove the eve specific features. Multiple player made apps rely on this functionality(including one ive developed), and despite its slow speed and other failings, the ability to create links to items, systems, stations, etc is incredibly useful. I shouldn't need to remind you that the IGB is currently the only way to provide an in-game interface to external player created applications.
The ability to render simple forms and text only pages is all I care about. Make the IGB faster and lighter, not bigger. If I want to watch youtube, or browse some complex site, Ill hit alt-tab. The IGB was never intended to be some general purpose browser to surf the web with, its purpose is to render in game news, and 3rd party apps. Stay focused on that, say no to bloat. As the saying goes: "If you try to be everything, you'll suck at everything" |
kabet shadow |
Posted - 2009.02.16 22:01:00 - [ 236]
/signed |
Dal' Hassen
Minmatar
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E |
Posted - 2009.02.17 00:47:00 - [ 237]
/not signed
I dont blame CCP for letting the IGB be so generic, you can make a site for it, thats enough. If i were a developer at CCP, ya I'd think hey lets sweeten this up with a cool standards compliant in game web browser, then my senses would kick in and say, ahh better not, I dont think I want all sorts of unchecked code being pulled up through the game I've worked hard to build. I mean seriously, do you know how many people will attempt to take advantage of a NEW browser that allows you to view your pretty flash and javascript? I dont think CCP wants plagued with the issues of running a modern web-browser.
Second, on the topic of Flash, ya its great for displaying rich media, but I dont ever remember hearing that it was open source and that a company could just put it into their product and sell it. Why do you think you have to download a plugin.
CCP if your going to improve it, improve it on the basis of functionality and xhtml CSS compliancy, avoid javascript and flash and all the fancy dodads modern browsers currently use...but first and foremost make the game. |
Targie McRed
Gallente
Heretic Army
B A N E |
Posted - 2009.02.17 10:44:00 - [ 238]
Targie McRed Signs this pertition |
Retanty |
Posted - 2009.02.17 10:57:00 - [ 239]
+1 |
Misaki Rena
Gallente
EVE University
Ivy League |
Posted - 2009.02.17 14:34:00 - [ 240]
I'd love to have a better ingame browser. I really don't like switching out of EVE in order to look things up, but it takes so long to do it in the IGB that I'd be wasting time not to. :-/ |
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