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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.13 07:58:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Neth'Rae
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn
It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.


I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.


Sounds a bit too short.. should be an odd number like 7 or 9, so it changes each day..


Well, its subject to change but:
http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/world.html
Quote:
What about weather effects and day/night cycles?

Agon will be a very atmospheric and beautiful world complete with world physics that will surprise you. The weather effects will often be dramatic, and the day/night cycles will sometimes be accompanied with spectacular dawns and sunsets.

The exact time cycle is not set yet, but the current total night/day cycle is about four hours long.
Expect realistic weather effects, such as rain, snow, wind blowing in the trees, wind blowing in the grass on the ground, thunder and lightning.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2008.12.13 11:15:00 - [122]
 

Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn
It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.


I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.


hm that sounds ok, as you could probably get to see a whole day cycle in a sitting of the game. Would prefer it to be the same as RL though.

Captain Falcord
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.12.13 11:39:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: Captain Falcord on 13/12/2008 11:38:57
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn
It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.


I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.


hm that sounds ok, as you could probably get to see a whole day cycle in a sitting of the game. Would prefer it to be the same as RL though.


That'd be cool, but honestly, not an intelligent idea.

People with restricted play times (like myself, I can only play like 2 hours around 23:00) would have to spend their entire game experience in the same moment of the day, and that gets tiring after a while.

Jim McGregor
Posted - 2008.12.14 12:37:00 - [124]
 

Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/12/2008 12:38:26

Originally by: Captain Falcord

People with restricted play times (like myself, I can only play like 2 hours around 23:00) would have to spend their entire game experience in the same moment of the day, and that gets tiring after a while.


Yes, this is probably why they picked 4 hours. Its short enough for everybody to be able to experience both night and day in the game.

I watched the trailer for the game and it looks like massive ganking and no tactics, but I will try the game if it has a open beta during x-mas and beginning of January. Smile

TEK9
Caldari
Vale Tudo.
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2008.12.14 13:38:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Doug Dread
Hopefully the developers of Darkfall will listen less to the whining of carebears to make things easier for them all the time - they got WoW and EVE (pretty much these days seeing as every patch is one new nerf for free pvp - not including that gay fleet warfare and 0.0 blob crap) and continually saturating games to cater to them may not help them in the long run. I know CCP was originally like this and caved over time and Darkfall devs could just as easily go down this road. However CCP is already toned down to carebear pressure - aventurine is still a virgin and can hopefully stay that way from carebears.

These are just some examples that come to mind.

Of course I am not really trying to crap on EVE in these comparisons - it should be expected that Darkfall will have advantages as it is a new game and EVE is almost a decade old. I am just so eager to try Darkfall and hope it will be my EVE replacement as I am getting more tired of the continuing carebearish patches that will drive pirates and evil from the game.


/signed

Non-consensual PvP in Eve can now only be found in 0.0 and sitting outside Jita 4-4 killing those war targets unlucky enough to undock with a blackscreen. See http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=928550 for further details.

Darkfall looks like it may be the game that Eve used to be, a harsh world where nowhere and no one is completely safe.

I would just plead with the carebears who have managed to ruin Eve to stay here and leave Darkfall to the rest of us. It would be a bit like Vegetarians going to a Steak restaurant and then complaining about them serving meat.Rolling Eyes




Captain Falcord
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.12.14 15:01:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: TEK9
Originally by: Doug Dread
Hopefully the developers of Darkfall will listen less to the whining of carebears to make things easier for them all the time - they got WoW and EVE (pretty much these days seeing as every patch is one new nerf for free pvp - not including that gay fleet warfare and 0.0 blob crap) and continually saturating games to cater to them may not help them in the long run. I know CCP was originally like this and caved over time and Darkfall devs could just as easily go down this road. However CCP is already toned down to carebear pressure - aventurine is still a virgin and can hopefully stay that way from carebears.

These are just some examples that come to mind.

Of course I am not really trying to crap on EVE in these comparisons - it should be expected that Darkfall will have advantages as it is a new game and EVE is almost a decade old. I am just so eager to try Darkfall and hope it will be my EVE replacement as I am getting more tired of the continuing carebearish patches that will drive pirates and evil from the game.


/signed

Non-consensual PvP in Eve can now only be found in 0.0 and sitting outside Jita 4-4 killing those war targets unlucky enough to undock with a blackscreen. See http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=928550 for further details.

Darkfall looks like it may be the game that Eve used to be, a harsh world where nowhere and no one is completely safe.

I would just plead with the carebears who have managed to ruin Eve to stay here and leave Darkfall to the rest of us. It would be a bit like Vegetarians going to a Steak restaurant and then complaining about them serving meat.Rolling Eyes






I have faith in darkfall for one reason.

What will keep it from being a gankfest is the fact that you can only have one character per account.

Games become a gankfest because the people who commit those crimes know they can be the bad guys for 20 minutes and when they're bored, they just pick their alts, farm stuff for their evil mains or just play the game in another fashion.

Darkfall will not allow this. If you're bad, you're bad. The only way to play an eternal gankfest is choosing alfar, which will anyway become a reverse-gankfest soon because they're KOS to the rest of the races (lol, it's gotta be harsh for those guys).

Soo, probably we will see all the immature gankers pick alfar and enjoy their portion of the game, while humans, dwarves, and elves, then orcs and furries to a lesser extent will probably team up and defend each other, leaving the occasional ganky clan/group apart, which will soon belong to the KOS list for everyone. Soon, they would realize they'd be better off playing alfar for that, and reroll. Back to starting point.

Neth'Rae
Gallente
State Protectorate
Posted - 2008.12.14 15:10:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Neth''Rae on 14/12/2008 15:11:33
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I watched the trailer for the game and it looks like massive ganking and no tactics, but I will try the game if it has a open beta during x-mas and beginning of January. Smile


Well, considering the vast different possibilities of character customization, friendly fire, manual aim/block, being able to physically block or tackle people due to collision detection, fighting ontop of mounts, ambushes, realistic archery etc..
I wouldn't be suprised if it was more tactical than EVE..

What I don't like with EVE atm is that people run/hide/avoid pvp too easily or the blob and you'll have to run/hide..
You can't warp out or cloak in Darkfall at least, and you'll be able to spot and avoid huge armies if you see them from far away..

mini moon
Posted - 2008.12.14 15:25:00 - [128]
 

I have some question
Agony alliance in EVE is friendly with which powerblock ? (Goon, BoB, NC...)
In which server u will go, English i bet ?
Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ?
Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^
I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2008.12.14 15:33:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: mini moon
I have some question
Agony alliance in EVE is friendly with which powerblock ? (Goon, BoB, NC...)
In which server u will go, English i bet ?
Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ?
Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^
I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'


This should answer most if not all of your questions about Agony Empire in EVE.


Slade

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.15 03:37:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: mini moon
I have some question
Agony alliance in EVE is friendly with which powerblock ? (Goon, BoB, NC...)
In which server u will go, English i bet ?
Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ?
Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^
I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'


This should answer most if not all of your questions about Agony Empire in EVE.


Slade



Thanks Slade. And, mini moon, if you couldn't answer your question after reading that, we aren't aligned with any EVE power blocs. We've fought goons, NC, and bob. We're an equal killing opportunity group. YARRRR!!

That aside, we're not going to be bring anything from EVE into Darkfall aside from the name/logo, and some of the EVE members. I can tell you right now that there will be people in our Darkfall clan who are in alliances we are currently fighting in EVE. We're just going to keep EVE talk completely separate from our Darkfall group and you're welcome to sign up and join us at http://darkfall.agony-empire.comSmile

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.15 04:19:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: Captain Falcord

What will keep it from being a gankfest is the fact that you can only have one character per account.



So this would be your thread then eh?
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=90760

Originally by: Captain Falcord

Soo, probably we will see all the immature gankers pick alfar and enjoy their portion of the game, while humans, dwarves, and elves, then orcs and furries to a lesser extent will probably team up and defend each other, leaving the occasional ganky clan/group apart, which will soon belong to the KOS list for everyone. Soon, they would realize they'd be better off playing alfar for that, and reroll. Back to starting point.


I'm not so sure... The race poll shows all 3 alignments to be close-ish:
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=9266

First pick is Humans, 2nd is Mahirim, 3rd is Alfar. I'd pick Alfar except Alfar look horrible to me. Just creepy or... idk. I wouldn't play one because I don't like how they look.

Anyway, don't forget that you can attack anyone and play the "pirate" regardless of your race. Smile

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2008.12.15 09:35:00 - [132]
 

I was thinking alfar due to being able to kill more people freely that way, but if I go with the mirdain I'll be able to play the same race in Darkfall and EVE.

All this '3 friendly races' crap sounds like it is for the carebears though.

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.15 16:55:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Crumplecorn
I was thinking alfar due to being able to kill more people freely that way, but if I go with the mirdain I'll be able to play the same race in Darkfall and EVE.

All this '3 friendly races' crap sounds like it is for the carebears though.


I don't think it will be noticeable that Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves are the carebear alignment. Remember that the population will not split 16.6% each race
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=9266
so Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves will probably have the most people, but...

(While they aren't truely indicative of how things will go, I'm going to reference polls from the darkfall forums to give you an idea of what the other forumfall posters think)

  1. as a Mirdain, my clan can wardec any other Humans/Dwarves/Mirdain clan.

  2. as a Mirdain, my clan can go outlaw and kill anyone and use Silvertown (the outlaw city) as our wretched hive of scum and villany. Quite a large percentage seem to be wanting to do this: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=90920
    http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=89698

  3. as a Mirdain, if I see another Human/Dwarf/Mirdain out in the world and not be worried about him, I may quickly find myself attacked, dead, and looted because I assumed he wouldn't attack me since he's of the same alignment.

  4. according to this map: http://www.bkbhq.com/index.php?pageid=dfmap each race is separated from other races it is aligned with such that you are surrounded by alignment enemies. In order for Dwarves to get to the Humans territory, they'd have to run through Ork territory, or through the center of Agon. In other words, Humans, Dwarves, and Mirdain will all be seperated from each other as will Orks and Mahirim.

  5. in EVE, people can stay in high sec and carebear to their heart's content in relative safety. In Darkfall, there is no high sec. Everywhere is low sec with less sentry guns and the only relative safe places are in cities but a carebear couldn't do much in Darkfall I think w/out going outside a city. My point here is that Darkfall will not last long for the many carebears and I believe Darkfall will certainly have less hardcore carebears than EVE does.

  6. Most Darkfall clans will probably be pvp oriented http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=67420


Once again, I recognize that polls only indicate the feelings of the forum fans and then only the ones that look at those polls. Still, at this time I don't think we'll associate any one alignment with say Caldari = carebears. Smile

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.16 16:03:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: mini moon
I have some question
Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ?
Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^
I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'


My previous post might have been misinterpreted. Yes, you're welcome to join us. Sign up at http://darkfall.agony-empire.com


Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.18 16:34:00 - [135]
 

Edited by: Sever Aldaria on 18/12/2008 16:37:52
It looks like the NDA has finally been publicly broken for the first time with several screen shot releases:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?view=forums&thread=216186&game=4&bhcp=1

[EDIT] they killed the thread. Screen shots here:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak3.jpg

Look at the mini map and which direction the player is facing in different screen shots it looks like the dragon is flying circles and patterns around him blasting him from the sky!

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2008.12.19 10:08:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: Sever Aldaria
good points
But look at it from the other side. On signup you are asked:

Click 'A' if you would like to be able to attack 5/6ths of the population freely, at the cost of them all being able to attack you too.

Click 'B' if you are ok with only being able to attack 1/2, so you can have more friendly/neutral characters around you.

Of course the population won't split evenly as you say, but you get the idea, there's the PvP option and the carebear option (and the middle option which I left out).

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2008.12.19 17:25:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
good points
But look at it from the other side. On signup you are asked:

Click 'A' if you would like to be able to attack 5/6ths of the population freely, at the cost of them all being able to attack you too.

Click 'B' if you are ok with only being able to attack 1/2, so you can have more friendly/neutral characters around you.

Of course the population won't split evenly as you say, but you get the idea, there's the PvP option and the carebear option (and the middle option which I left out).


I disagree because either alignment that has more than one race are separated from each other. So each race is surrounded by enemies. If you want the most targets, you only have to go either to your left or right and hunt around in that race's territory. And again, because there will be a lot of outlaws which will have their own outlaw city, there's no immunity from other people of your race. Its just like low sec in EVE. So while one alignment may be able to attack more races without alignment repercussions, I don't think it will matter enough. I think you'll see plenty of pvp no matter which alignment you choose and the carebear focus will not be on random characters named xkbsjeqpf like in high sec EVE because they won't be able to survive on their own very well. Rather, I think the majority of carebears will be in large alliances just like in EVE and those alliances may have inter-alignment NAPs. I know of at least 2 large alliances on the darkfall forums which are of different alliances but are friendly to each other.

Once again, you can attack anyone freely. Smile

Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2009.01.03 16:56:00 - [138]
 

Any news of Darkfalls progression?

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2009.01.06 18:32:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Arianhod
Any news of Darkfalls progression?


Darkfall releases with digital download (like EVE) on January 22 just about 2 weeks from now. No word yet on an open beta. Most suspect a one week or a weekend open beta for stress testing. beta leakers say those that liked Ultima Online will love Darkfall Online.

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:10:00 - [140]
 

Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come

Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:12:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: kor anon
Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire. Twisted Evil

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:18:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire. Twisted Evil


hehe, i excell at stealthing in fantasy games so watch your back Razz

Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:21:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire. Twisted Evil


hehe, i excell at stealthing in fantasy games so watch your back Razz
Aren't you going to join the Empire? I plan on making a Cathedral for Haruhiism for the purpose of lulz and signature material Twisted Evil

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:23:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire. Twisted Evil


hehe, i excell at stealthing in fantasy games so watch your back Razz
Aren't you going to join the Empire? I plan on making a Cathedral for Haruhiism for the purpose of lulz and signature material Twisted Evil


Sure what the hell, what race group agony going for?

Arianhod
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:29:00 - [145]
 

Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 19:28:53
Originally by: kor anon


Sure what the hell, what race group agony going for?
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony ugh

There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><

kor anon
Amarr
FISKL GUARDS
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.01.07 19:34:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Arianhod
Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 19:28:53
Originally by: kor anon


Sure what the hell, what race group agony going for?
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony ugh

There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><



ah just checked on the website, its good aligned races so human dwarf and miridain. Sounds good to me as i was going for a human anyway

Iva Soreass
Friar's Club
Posted - 2009.01.07 20:12:00 - [147]
 

Only 15 days to go before epic failure becomes reality...

Gnomes Rock
Posted - 2009.01.07 20:36:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Arianhod
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony ugh

There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><


So it's true Alfar can't mix with other races?

=(

Whatever, still going with them. =p

Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2009.01.08 22:00:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Arianhod
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony ugh

There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><


So it's true Alfar can't mix with other races?

=(

Whatever, still going with them. =p


@ Arianhod

We decided to go with the Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves alignment to give people the most options with choosing what race to play. This means, for now, we won't allow Orks, Mahirim, or Alfar.

@ Gnomes Rock

A Clan can have all races if they wish, but it creates complications with clan management. For one, if your clan occupies a city/outpost ect. you can only have one race of npc guards. So if you hire say Human npc guards, it doesn't matter if you're in clan or not, if you're an Alfar or Mahirim or Ork then you're going to be attacked by them. So it just makes things harder on you.

P.S. Alfar look too emo/creepy for me. Not like, "Ah! They're scary!" but like "Ah! What the hell were you artists thinking when you designed Alfar?" Razz

Cosy
Posted - 2009.01.10 09:36:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Arianhod
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony ugh

There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><


So it's true Alfar can't mix with other races?

=(

Whatever, still going with them. =p


@ Arianhod

We decided to go with the Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves alignment to give people the most options with choosing what race to play. This means, for now, we won't allow Orks, Mahirim, or Alfar.

@ Gnomes Rock

A Clan can have all races if they wish, but it creates complications with clan management. For one, if your clan occupies a city/outpost ect. you can only have one race of npc guards. So if you hire say Human npc guards, it doesn't matter if you're in clan or not, if you're an Alfar or Mahirim or Ork then you're going to be attacked by them. So it just makes things harder on you.

P.S. Alfar look too emo/creepy for me. Not like, "Ah! They're scary!" but like "Ah! What the hell were you artists thinking when you designed Alfar?" Razz


but you can kill your own clan guards no ?


orc ftw Twisted Evil


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