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Lady Darksaber
Gallente
Prison Break Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.16 22:00:00 - [1]
 

I just read the press release for the new expantion comming ...Im a industrial based character my self so this realy peeked my intrest...anyone seen any more info on this new ship ?

Is it the long awaited capital mining ship ?,,well i can dream cant i ?...hehhe ...

Peace love and veggies,,


thansk for the info

LD

Lustralis
Posted - 2008.10.16 22:12:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Lady Darksaber
I just read the press release for the new expantion comming ...Im a industrial based character my self so this realy peeked my intrest...anyone seen any more info on this new ship ?

Is it the long awaited capital mining ship ?,,well i can dream cant i ?...hehhe ...

Peace love and veggies,,


thansk for the info

LD


Yes. Going on past experience it'll be completely useless for the task it's supposed to perform.

Varesk
Gallente
Maelstrom Crew
Posted - 2008.10.16 22:17:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Lustralis
Originally by: Lady Darksaber
I just read the press release for the new expantion comming ...Im a industrial based character my self so this realy peeked my intrest...anyone seen any more info on this new ship ?

Is it the long awaited capital mining ship ?,,well i can dream cant i ?...hehhe ...

Peace love and veggies,,


thansk for the info

LD


Yes. Going on past experience it'll be completely useless for the task it's supposed to perform.

Oh these bittersweat tears of macrokid. DAMN they taste so sweet.

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
Posted - 2008.10.16 23:26:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: Lustralis
Originally by: Lady Darksaber
I just read the press release for the new expantion comming ...Im a industrial based character my self so this realy peeked my intrest...anyone seen any more info on this new ship ?

Is it the long awaited capital mining ship ?,,well i can dream cant i ?...hehhe ...

Peace love and veggies,,


thansk for the info

LD


Yes. Going on past experience it'll be completely useless for the task it's supposed to perform.

Oh these bittersweat tears of macrokid. DAMN they taste so sweet.


Indeed :)

Mr Ignitious
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2008.10.17 03:48:00 - [5]
 

if anything i hope its a hauler with guns. I mean, orca whales are known for killing for fun (YARRRR!!)


And with that, i hope inspires indies to fight me more... So i get moar stuffs =)

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2008.10.17 03:54:00 - [6]
 

the boron orca in x3 reunion is the best orca, this is just a cheap imposter >:-|

Brego Tralowski
Galactic Extensive Technologies
SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
Posted - 2008.10.17 05:17:00 - [7]
 

Im hoping its gonna be a small Freighter with Mod slots, enough space to perhaps hold 120k m3 (contract max). I would be a real asset to my couriering, but no matter what it is im sure the industrial community would great welcome a new ship.

Not just in terms of 'hey we have a new ship to fly' but also the manufacturing side, im sure the demand will be high initially and the price will be high for them also. It'll also give newer players who are perhaps skilling for a freighter (if indeed this is what it'll be used for) something in the middle range to go for. Perhaps new modules to grace this new ship as well?

Who knows, all I know is that I for one am looking forward to this new expansion.

The medal system sounds cool to, although one of my corp members asked if he could have a medal for 'just being sexy'!

Fly safe all o/

Lustralis
Posted - 2008.10.17 08:07:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Varesk

Oh these bittersweat tears of macrokid. DAMN they taste so sweet.


wtf are you talking about you moron?

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2008.10.17 08:20:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: Lustralis
Originally by: Lady Darksaber
stuff


Yes. Going on past experience it'll be completely useless for the task it's supposed to perform.

Oh these bittersweat tears of macrokid. DAMN they taste so sweet.


Indeed :)

He is refering to the intended use of a rorqual and its actual use. A rorqual was meant to sit in belt with its miners, tractoring the contis, providing safety with capital shield transporters and sieging to compress the ore for better transportation and mining sessions far off the homesystems.
But fact is that almost noone uses the rorqual like this, it instead sits at a pos just giving mining bonuses and compressing ore there. IF used for mining at all, because it's also widely used as a replacement for the old freighter-carrier.

And I still think that siege cycle time should be reduced to 2 mins btw..^^

Lustralis
Posted - 2008.10.17 08:38:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: Lustralis
Originally by: Lady Darksaber
stuff


Yes. Going on past experience it'll be completely useless for the task it's supposed to perform.

Oh these bittersweat tears of macrokid. DAMN they taste so sweet.


Indeed :)

He is refering to the intended use of a rorqual and its actual use. A rorqual was meant to sit in belt with its miners, tractoring the contis, providing safety with capital shield transporters and sieging to compress the ore for better transportation and mining sessions far off the homesystems.
But fact is that almost noone uses the rorqual like this, it instead sits at a pos just giving mining bonuses and compressing ore there. IF used for mining at all, because it's also widely used as a replacement for the old freighter-carrier.

And I still think that siege cycle time should be reduced to 2 mins btw..^^


Yes, I trained for a Rorqual for its intended use. It was a huge waste of ISK.

Crellion
Parental Control
Merciless.
Posted - 2008.10.17 09:15:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Gneeznow
the boron orca in x3 reunion is the best orca, this is just a cheap imposter >:-|


If I remember correctly it has hardponts for alpha flak or beta flak cannons and this would be interesting to see in eve... ceptor mincer hauler :P

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
Posted - 2008.10.17 10:06:00 - [12]
 

I don't care how well it does it's purpose, just as long as it still does the "mega-maid" transformation.

Mephistophilis
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.17 10:20:00 - [13]
 

Hmm so we have Transport ships, 30+K, Jump freighters 300+K, Freighters dunno how much they carry... a lot i guess, The capital mining ship, whatever the hell it's called. Sorry i'm not indi type person

What else do we need? I'm trying to imagine what they're giving us next. Mobile research and manufacture perhaps? Full size jump freighter that can carry packaged AND assembled ships? Or just another of what we already have?

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2008.10.17 10:48:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Mephistophilis
Hmm so we have Transport ships, 30+K, Jump freighters 300+K, Freighters 1000+K, rorqual 120K

What else do we need? I'm trying to imagine what they're giving us next. Mobile research and manufacture perhaps (this is what POS are for)? Full size jump freighter that can carry packaged AND assembled ships (freighters can carry assembled ships if packed into courier contract)? Or just another of what we already have (what about a high sec ship that is able to scoop containers in belts with more than 30+k,eg Orca AND can be used as mining op plattform in high sec systems without stations)?

Fixed it for you.

Mephistophilis
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.17 10:52:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
Originally by: Mephistophilis
Hmm so we have Transport ships, 30+K, Jump freighters 300+K, Freighters 1000+K, rorqual 120K

What else do we need? I'm trying to imagine what they're giving us next. Mobile research and manufacture perhaps (this is what POS are for)? Full size jump freighter that can carry packaged AND assembled ships (freighters can carry assembled ships if packed into courier contract)? Or just another of what we already have (what about a high sec ship that is able to scoop containers in belts with more than 30+k,eg Orca AND can be used as mining op plattform in high sec systems without stations)?

Fixed it for you.


ThanksRolling Eyes Obviously i do know what POS's are for

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2008.10.17 11:09:00 - [16]
 

hehe, sorry. I just wanted to do this "Fixed it" quote crap forever. Laughing

But yes, features of Orca is still quite a secret and while I am not an industrialist at all, as a CEO I find it rather exciting what this ship can do for event planning.

Akyla
Bears Inc
Posted - 2008.10.17 12:40:00 - [17]
 

To be honest I'm also very curious to what they came up with...

I mean there's already 3 types of capital ships that can transport stuff, what gap do they want this new Orca to fill up?

Or maybe it tanks like a Dread and comes with "roll up and tank all" mode?
At least "Orca" sounds like it shouldn't be defenseless, right?

OmgzHappy
Posted - 2008.10.17 13:06:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Miyamoto Uroki
hehe, sorry. I just wanted to do this "Fixed it" quote crap forever. Laughing

But yes, features of Orca is still quite a secret and while I am not an industrialist at all, as a CEO I find it rather exciting what this ship can do for event planning.


you browse 4chan too much.

Also, freighters were never going to go over 1000k because they'd be able to move capitalships at one point so ccp painstakenly steered clear of that figure.

being able to fly the rorq, and owning one, but never undocked it(long story)

I wouldnt mind the orca to have a myrad of ranged strip miners(more than 4 PLEASE). I would litterally like to see a laser light show in hi-sec astroidbelts by something alot bigger than a hulk but smaller then a freighter and for the cost, benifit/cost not worth over a hulk.

just like if you reproccessed a raven and built caracals out of it. that ammount of caracals with the sameskill/gear would annihilate the raven.

thats what i mean by not cost effective. Just use less pilots to do the same thing.

I totally agree on the a 2 minute cycle on the indy core, good idea.

I also remember there being prototypes of fighter sized mining drones for the rorq back before it's model was added in to the test server. you could show info on it and it had the place holder picture for both the rorq and its minerfighters.

but the minerfighters never made it into sisi and thus never into tq and not alot of people remember that. Bring the minerfighers in..

SephiXan
Amarr
Cold Steel Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.18 08:31:00 - [19]
 

But then we all know how the macros will abuse it. For those of us who actually bother to do the hard work we get outdone by Hulks that dock and undock all day unhindered. Sure its an awesome idea, but itll also give macros a bigger tool to use 23/7 Crying or Very sad


Warrio
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.18 08:42:00 - [20]
 

IMO we need a slight nerf to all barges (except skiff).
Before you all cry me a river.
Orca then kills the gap with some sort of boost to efficiency of use and mining amount. The key to this would be, make it complex to fly and make it have to be actively piloted to give any benefit.
Farmers are a reality in Eve however, making it a bit less profitable to farm and a bit more profitable to actively mine would allow players to combat farming where it hurts. In the total yield.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2008.10.18 08:50:00 - [21]
 

Yes, we all need to get our expectations UP, far beyond any sense of reality so that we will be utterly disappointed with what we'll get and can properly flame CCP for failing yet again at fulfilling speculation and hysteria inflated expectations.Rolling Eyes

Washell Olivaw
Posted - 2008.10.18 10:31:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Warrio
IMO we need a slight nerf to all barges (except skiff).
Before you all cry me a river.
Orca then kills the gap with some sort of boost to efficiency of use and mining amount. The key to this would be, make it complex to fly and make it have to be actively piloted to give any benefit.
Farmers are a reality in Eve however, making it a bit less profitable to farm and a bit more profitable to actively mine would allow players to combat farming where it hurts. In the total yield.


Right, because farmers with a couple of dozen accounts and billions of ISK have much more troubles buying a character and ship capable of boosting mining operations than your average Joe Miner.

Warrio
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.10.18 12:41:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Warrio
IMO we need a slight nerf to all barges (except skiff).
Before you all cry me a river.
Orca then kills the gap with some sort of boost to efficiency of use and mining amount. The key to this would be, make it complex to fly and make it have to be actively piloted to give any benefit.
Farmers are a reality in Eve however, making it a bit less profitable to farm and a bit more profitable to actively mine would allow players to combat farming where it hurts. In the total yield.


Right, because farmers with a couple of dozen accounts and billions of ISK have much more troubles buying a character and ship capable of boosting mining operations than your average Joe Miner.


When I said 'complex to fly' I ment complex to use in terms of how you actually use it, not in terms of pure SP.
Complex such that a macro cannot successfully operate one. Actual live rang-rang farmers can't be so easily stopped but that's for another thread.

Azuse
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.10.18 13:00:00 - [24]
 

This is what someone (Elisa Day i believe) Rendered from the extracted .res in the last sis patch

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

All i can say (being non-industrial) is they've finally made a ship i'm going to enjoy shooting more than a freighter, looks good doesn't it Shocked

Lisento Slaven
The Drekla Consortium
Posted - 2008.10.18 13:05:00 - [25]
 

Is there even a niche that needs to be filled with the Orca? It didn't sound like (in the press release) that it was going to be a small ship to fill any gaps between haulers and freighters...

Dictum Factum
Skill Training
Posted - 2008.10.18 14:38:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Rhatar Khurin
I don't care how well it does it's purpose, just as long as it still does the "mega-maid" transformation.


People, there is a genius in the room.

Sofia Kyodai
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.10.18 19:49:00 - [27]
 

I could be wrong but i saw on another thread that the Orca is going to be a hisec Rorq, and like that, it wont be ble to use mining lasers, relying rather in the use of (less efficient that the Rorq's) mining gang modules. Also, i dont remember seeing anything about ore compression, more like a really big hold to drop ore in. I wouldnt get my hopes high, but who knows?

Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
TransGalactic Networks
Posted - 2008.10.18 20:55:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Azuse
This is what someone (Elisa Day i believe) Rendered from the extracted .res in the last sis patch

(image removed for an easier browsing experience)

All i can say (being non-industrial) is they've finally made a ship i'm going to enjoy shooting more than a freighter, looks good doesn't it Shocked


Looks cool though.

Slash Harnet
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.10.18 21:29:00 - [29]
 

I'd like a mini rorqual with cruiser size teeth.

Barry O'mass
Fallen Nova
FREELANCER ALLIANCE
Posted - 2008.10.18 22:22:00 - [30]
 

It looks the sex.. al i want is large hold and command mind link bonus....


anything else for me is cherry on the top


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