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Todoshi
Caldari
Caldari Logistics and Supplies
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:11:00 - [2101]
 

because they don't want anyone that hasn't seen this thread to see it

Caiman Graystock
Caldari
Cornelius Starship and Computer Design
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:12:00 - [2102]
 

I was indifferent on this change, and still am, couldnt care less about ghost trainers. But WTF is this thread hidden for now? Lame.

BIind
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:12:00 - [2103]
 

This thread is really hard to find now, I told some people with inactive accounts about this and now they think I'm making this up.

CIA1
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2104]
 

Originally by: Crewman Jenkins
I love capitalism. Razz
What a f***ng Fu** bag you are.

Travieso
Minmatar
Princeps Corp
T e r c i o s
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2105]
 

if you change this, my 3 account canceled and leave eve.....................

Krycka
Minmatar
Nightmare Holdings
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2106]
 

Originally by: Potty
If itís to make money CCP have messed up.

Iíve being playing eve for 5 years and have had more breaks than I care to remember. And the reason why I came back... was it for changes? for updates? to see my eve mates again? Short and sharp answer is NO.

I came back because of the skill addiction CCP has built into eve. Missed time is missed SP's and that in eve is worth more than ISK.

So I resub'ed and may have got hooked and played for 4 months on the trot or played a month (coasted if at uni) and ghost trained but the point is i always came back and resubed because of the SP addiction.

Now its gone I still wont pay while I cant play but there will be no need to log on again as there isnt the "skill will finish in 2 days" in the back of my mind.

Will I be completed to resub after the break.. Some how I doubt it. The question isnít will I leave eve now, but next time when I HAVE TO LEAVE because of commitments will there be the little voice saying resub... your going to be missing out on SP's.

THAT is why I think this will lose CCP money

Potty



This is exactly my feelings to.

AntonioBanderas
Empirius Enigmus Navy
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2107]
 

Edited by: AntonioBanderas on 14/10/2008 17:14:01




EVERYONE PLEASE PUT A LINK OF THIS THREAD IN YOUR BIO.
EVERYONE.
TY




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Seth Ruin
Minmatar
Ominous Corp
Circle-Of-Two
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2108]
 

Originally by: AntonioBanderas
any answers from ccp?



Nope! CCP has gone the entire day ignoring the player base!Evil or Very Mad

Erimisha
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2109]
 

Originally by: Kekyana
Why does this thread no longer show up?

Why is CCP getting rid of it? This is an OUTRAGE. not only did they LIE to us, they keep removing posts ABOUT the player's guide and now they are trying to HIDE this entire thread.

what the heck is going on over there?



Threads temporarily 'disappear' as they're being scrubbed/modded.

What is really funny is that I've read almost every page in this thread and really wonder why some of the posts were REMOVED (not moderated but outright REMOVED). I'm talking posts without any cursing, no name calling and nothing even remotely inflamatory/against the rules. This thread has been downright civil compared to what goes in C&P, CAoD and even the Market Discussion forum yet this thread has seen more moderation than those 3 forums combined in the past month..

Seviere
Caldari
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2110]
 

Oh, I can't believe this.
No access to my account and now the thread is in stealth mode.

CCP common, is any of this racional? You guys are really on a kamikaze run here.

C4w3
Minmatar
Corp 1 Allstars
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:13:00 - [2111]
 

WTF CCP make thread hidden to the public this is getting me angry IRL be hounest ffs least you can be?!!! Stop failing! Evil or Very Mad

Tae'Lin Hynd
Wutzit
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:16:00 - [2112]
 

So, for "Balance" which really means, charactor transfers and sales were out of control, giving those selling said characters an unfair balance (easier and cheaper to make isk this way then selling GTCs) other things need to be put into place as well, such as selling GTC for isk, RP hoarding while inactive, orders being active well after the account is suspended, research on BPOS, If your account is inactive for even a day, all pos structures should stop consuming fuel.

How about more balance, those folks that set sell orders then log off, well, why should they make iskies while the rest of us are logged off? turn off all sell orders as soon as the character logs out, oh, also turn off research on BPOS while the charactor is logged out. No one in the corp logged in, turn the poses off while no one in the corp is active, as why should they have a passive income while they aren't playing the game. Lets make this balanced, lets do what certain countries plan on. Just give us x amounts of isk per day, and only be able to obtain x amounts of skill points per day just to make it all even so NO BODY has any sort of so called "advantage" yes said advantages can be played by all, but some are too lazy too, so we gotta be fair to them as well.

Lets make this balanced, we all will fly shuttles that can fit either 2 guns, or 2 mining lasers, no xpanders or lo slots though, as that may constitute an unfair advantage.

also while you are at it, how bout you finish bending us over, and just go ahead and remove any skill points that were trained during a lapsed account, seeing as how we were just exploiting bugs that were at the time called "benefits" of one of the most different MMOs out there. Hell just change it all, forget space, lets all just land on one planet and break out our sticks and stones and just pvp that way, all emo spamming the space bar so we can jump around WEEEEE!!!!

Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:16:00 - [2113]
 

Pure bull**** move.

CCP #1: On noes the blog haz gone to 4X pages.

CCP #2: QUICK!!one1! Move the thread on the discussion to another one before it gets too big and new players see it!!!

CCP #1: Now that one's getting eben bigger!!!OMG!!

CCP #2: OK, put it in the Drone Regions, they won't find it there. MWAHAHAHAAHA!

Seviere
Caldari
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:16:00 - [2114]
 

Originally by: Erimisha
Originally by: Kekyana
Why does this thread no longer show up?

Why is CCP getting rid of it? This is an OUTRAGE. not only did they LIE to us, they keep removing posts ABOUT the player's guide and now they are trying to HIDE this entire thread.

what the heck is going on over there?



Threads temporarily 'disappear' as they're being scrubbed/modded.

What is really funny is that I've read almost every page in this thread and really wonder why some of the posts were REMOVED (not moderated but outright REMOVED). I'm talking posts without any cursing, no name calling and nothing even remotely inflamatory/against the rules. This thread has been downright civil compared to what goes in C&P, CAoD and even the Market Discussion forum yet this thread has seen more moderation than those 3 forums combined in the past month..

Probably want to cut the thread short a few pages... so it doesn't look so embarassing for them

Elo69007
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:17:00 - [2115]
 

CCP thinks they casn hide this thread

POST IT IN LOCAL

Sailon
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:17:00 - [2116]
 

Jita local?

Annaphera
Minmatar
United Freemerchants Society
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:18:00 - [2117]
 

Originally by: HarrytheBarstool
Ok why was this thread unstuck'd and mysteriously moved to where it don't show ???

CCP you trying to backpeddle yet again ???

HarrytheBarstool is watching .....


Perhaps because it is however many pages of emo-rage, "I'm quitting" posts, and accusations of lying with only laughable backing? Thus it accomplishes no real purpose but to confuse the issue for anyone trying to find out what's going on? Besides, most people aren't even reading it anymore just posting the same things to the last page, so it seems like one unending paranoid freak-out over a minor change, with a bit of justified annoyance at the short time frame and poor handling thrown in. Oh, and justified complaints that this change wasn't "complete", leaving out things like buy/sell orders and RP.

Sen Zinei
Caldari
Hard-Core
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:18:00 - [2118]
 

this is going to be an interesting week :) i think a lot of words have been written. but the wallets will speak louder.

Triksterism
Spacecataz.
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:18:00 - [2119]
 

Originally by: Seviere
Originally by: Erimisha
Originally by: Kekyana
Why does this thread no longer show up?

Why is CCP getting rid of it? This is an OUTRAGE. not only did they LIE to us, they keep removing posts ABOUT the player's guide and now they are trying to HIDE this entire thread.

what the heck is going on over there?



Threads temporarily 'disappear' as they're being scrubbed/modded.

What is really funny is that I've read almost every page in this thread and really wonder why some of the posts were REMOVED (not moderated but outright REMOVED). I'm talking posts without any cursing, no name calling and nothing even remotely inflamatory/against the rules. This thread has been downright civil compared to what goes in C&P, CAoD and even the Market Discussion forum yet this thread has seen more moderation than those 3 forums combined in the past month..

Probably want to cut the thread short a few pages... so it doesn't look so embarassing for them


In a few hours this thread will have 3 pages, all filled with posts supporting their move to eliminate ghost training.

nea ion
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:18:00 - [2120]
 

lol Shocked
i think they are just going to delete this thread Evil or Very Mad

Tobias Lee
Star Mercs
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:19:00 - [2121]
 

This 71 page thread does not exist move along plz nothing to read here Very Happy

NupetietVer
Ice Fire Warriors
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:20:00 - [2122]
 

What CCP really thinks about us.
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:20:00 - [2123]
 

I could not care less about ghost training as I never used it.

But I do care about censorship...Rolling Eyes

Seviere
Caldari
Teram Odator Rilfur Pegastur
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:21:00 - [2124]
 

Everyone at ccp's is deleting posts. Think they even went to the employment center to get more hands on the job Wink

Annaphera
Minmatar
United Freemerchants Society
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:21:00 - [2125]
 

Originally by: Triksterism
Originally by: Seviere
Originally by: Erimisha
Originally by: Kekyana
Why does this thread no longer show up?

Why is CCP getting rid of it? This is an OUTRAGE. not only did they LIE to us, they keep removing posts ABOUT the player's guide and now they are trying to HIDE this entire thread.

what the heck is going on over there?



Threads temporarily 'disappear' as they're being scrubbed/modded.

What is really funny is that I've read almost every page in this thread and really wonder why some of the posts were REMOVED (not moderated but outright REMOVED). I'm talking posts without any cursing, no name calling and nothing even remotely inflamatory/against the rules. This thread has been downright civil compared to what goes in C&P, CAoD and even the Market Discussion forum yet this thread has seen more moderation than those 3 forums combined in the past month..

Probably want to cut the thread short a few pages... so it doesn't look so embarassing for them


In a few hours this thread will have 3 pages, all filled with posts supporting their move to eliminate ghost training.
Seriously...if that happens, I'm switching sides.

Erimisha
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:21:00 - [2126]
 

Originally by: Annaphera
Originally by: HarrytheBarstool
Ok why was this thread unstuck'd and mysteriously moved to where it don't show ???

CCP you trying to backpeddle yet again ???

HarrytheBarstool is watching .....


Perhaps because it is however many pages of emo-rage, "I'm quitting" posts, and accusations of lying with only laughable backing? Thus it accomplishes no real purpose but to confuse the issue for anyone trying to find out what's going on? Besides, most people aren't even reading it anymore just posting the same things to the last page, so it seems like one unending paranoid freak-out over a minor change, with a bit of justified annoyance at the short time frame and poor handling thrown in. Oh, and justified complaints that this change wasn't "complete", leaving out things like buy/sell orders and RP.


Where is your 'backing' that this is a bug? You brought up the fact that they changed the Chinese server to stop Ghost training awhile ago. If they knew how to fix the bug a year ago why did they leave it in?

VLAD DRACU
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:22:00 - [2127]
 

Originally by: H Lecter
I could not care less about ghost training as I never used it.

But I do care about censorship...Rolling Eyes


CCP has been taken over by government!
no one gets in or out!
you shall not post anymore!

Sean Mcarthur
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:22:00 - [2128]
 

what do you mean hidden? if you open www.eve-online.com press dev blog and then coments it is right there. Isn't that where it is supossed to be? i HATE this new change but please make us all look like paronoids. I am more troubled with ccp billing partners problem.

Gaskin Ravenwing
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:22:00 - [2129]
 

I am fine with and support this change.

I would ask that there is a "grace" time added on of 24 hours or so though

Reason being my subscription usually runs out overnight and i would hate to come back expecting my skill to have finished and find my expired subscription has put it back 12 hours or whatever

may have been mentioned already, if so, 1 vote bump to that post :)

Shard Merchant
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.10.14 17:22:00 - [2130]
 

Where are you little thread? I miss you Crying or Very sad


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