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Von Domiki
Posted - 2008.11.22 21:09:00 - [271]
 

I don't like MMORPGS much. "Ghost training" feature, which is now called a bug, was a reason why i started playing EVE. If CCP has money troubles, they'd better fire financial advisers, who come up with such *great* ideas. And PR managers clever enough to turn features into bugs. So i'm voting for returning ghost training.

Von Domiki
Posted - 2008.11.22 21:12:00 - [272]
 

Originally by: Marconus Orion
Training is playing.

You should have to pay to play.

I'm tired of all you whiners complaining, "OMG, I have to pay to play?!"

If you can't afford to pay a monthly subscription but expect CCP to allow you to play for free then go find something else to play. You rage quiting will not be missed. Laughing


It's not about money. It's about CCP's lies and features turning into bugs.

Dantes Revenge
Caldari
Posted - 2008.12.30 01:11:00 - [273]
 

I must admit that I've had 3 accounts up till now. If I was short of funds, I'd let one account slide but at least he was still training. It's only one level FFS, it wasn't as if we could queue up several skills to train one after the other. A month later when I got paid, I would pay his account again but only one of my accounts (my main) has skills that would take over a month to train at the moment so I would still lose training time. Most of us use all of our accounts and having one not active is actually a set-back. I don;t know how CCP came to the conclusion that it aids farming characters, especially now that we can only buy 60 day GTC's now and not 30 day.

Either they introduce a queue or they re-instate ghost training since one would negate the possibility of the other. It seems like CCP want it both ways and if that's the case, I'll be looking for another game to play. I know CCP has it's current financial problems, we all do with the recession at the moment but taking ghost training away from players is not going to force them to spend money they haven't got.

I've started to get into Taikodom now and it looks to be quite good once it's past Beta. Playing it for free right now but if I quit Eve, I'll have the resources to pay for it and get the good stuff.

Most of my old friends from Eve have quit now, I really starting to think It's time I moved on as well and this, along with the onslaught of nerfs recently, is beginning to make me feel more serious about it. The only reason I have stayed is because I have invested a lot of time in my characters so it would be a shame to biomass them but it's a game and if I feel that I can no longer play it because of recent changes, I'll go ahead and do it.

Gramtar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.12.30 05:51:00 - [274]
 

I fully support training one skill while an account has expired.

Jarwlarn Chigose
Posted - 2009.01.05 15:50:00 - [275]
 

Why ghost training should be re-enabled? Training times. Long, long, LONG training times. There's nothing quite like the training times in Eve anywhere else.

JVol
Amarr
The IMorral MAjority
Posted - 2009.01.05 15:57:00 - [276]
 

Originally by: Orion Moonstar
**** ccp, if they take this feature out I'm not playing this game anymore



LOL you werent playing the game anyways, who cares what you want

Sedious Bloke
Posted - 2009.01.10 03:03:00 - [277]
 

I really really don't give a **** :D

Axel Vindislaga
Posted - 2009.01.10 05:25:00 - [278]
 

ABSOLUTELY NOT! This one of the most blatant cases of MMO cry babyism I have ever seen. YOU HAVE NOT PAYED FOR THE SKILL TRAIN... you char is not active... he is lucky to be remembered for you. MEGA thumbs down. If it ever was advertised as a "feature" of eve I can understand why it is now referred to as a bug. Personally I see people getting irritated at having to address billing issues over and over again with people who complain over a few bucks... I've been there but I am better now... PHEW.
Evil or Very Mad Mutter Grumble

Par'Gellen
Gallente
Neon Cranium
Posted - 2009.01.16 13:28:00 - [279]
 

Pay to train. Otherwise go away.

Most definitely NOT signed!

dr doooo
Posted - 2009.01.16 23:42:00 - [280]
 

Skill training is part of the game. To play the game, you pay. To train skills, you pay

Santiago Fahahrri
Gallente
Galactic Geographic
Posted - 2009.01.17 07:48:00 - [281]
 

I support no pay - no train.

Thank you CCP for putting a stop to this.

No support for the whiners. Those who threatened to quit over this, please do so promptly

Dasfry
Caldari
Demio's Corporation
United Stellar Alliance
Posted - 2009.01.17 08:49:00 - [282]
 

Edited by: Dasfry on 17/01/2009 08:51:22
Edited by: Dasfry on 17/01/2009 08:49:47
Originally by: Moustache McGee
let's return to Todd and Frank. Todd runs two accounts over a year, both of which are lapsed and "Ghost Training" for three months out of the year, while Frank runs a single account subscribed for the entire year. Assuming they both pay in one month intervals of 14.99 per month:

Todd's Accounts: 179.40 * 0.75 * 2 = 269.10
Frank's Account: 179.40 * 1.00 * 1 = 179.40

Therefore,... Todd's two "Ghost Training" accounts bring in more money than Frank's single perma-subscribed account.


Your numbers are flaw'd and clearly setup to support your point of view.
You cannot put a fix'd number on how often Todd is on.
Without any research.

Lets give another example... mine clearly setup in favor of my point of view.
Joe who is subscribed sporadicly, and Frank's who is perma-subscribed.

Joe's Accounts: 179.40 * 0.40 * 2 = 143.52
Frank's Account: 179.40 * 1.00 * 1 = 179.40

Therefore, Frank's permanate account yields more money for ccp, and less resources on both time and server resources managing multiple accounts.


****
90% of statistics are made up on the spot

Roymundo
Caldari
Malevolence.
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2009.01.17 09:32:00 - [283]
 

Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
I will no renew my subscription to my third account if this goes through.


you need a hobby. sorry to be the one to say it....

Saphirro
Posted - 2009.01.17 23:14:00 - [284]
 

Originally by: Roymundo
Originally by: Etien Aldragoran
I will no renew my subscription to my third account if this goes through.


you need a hobby. sorry to be the one to say it....



Like maybe... oh I don't know....Eve Online?

Newbee
Posted - 2009.01.18 12:47:00 - [285]
 

this drama was one step too far from my point of view...

Deldrac
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.01.19 02:59:00 - [286]
 

Supported until CCP stop being ******ed and we get a fricking skill queue.

Dani SP
Posted - 2009.02.13 20:11:00 - [287]
 

Originally by: Deldrac
Supported until CCP stop being ******ed and we get a fricking skill queue.


that is about the same...

no PAY - no skills

and in your case:

no PLAY - no skills

stop crying you dudes, CCP could care less if 4 dudes got mad at them and cancel their suscribptions

kthx ;)

Stick Cult
Posted - 2009.02.13 22:43:00 - [288]
 

Skill training is not THE game. It is part of the game, for sure, but it is not THE game. That would suck.
Someone (Joe) who ghost trains ____ to level V is at a DISadvantage to the other guy (Bob), who trains the same skill to level V, because Bob is still playing for the month or so, making teh ISK to buy his ship the the new skill will get him, or just ISK in general. Joe, after he comes back, sure, he can fly the ship, but he can't afford the ship.
Ghost training puts the player at a disadvantage to players who don't.

Miner Nine
Caldari
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.02.15 01:43:00 - [289]
 

Ghost train forever

Cataracts
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.03.09 08:55:00 - [290]
 

This change is stupid. Allowing a skill to train when someone takes a break from the game encourages return business.

Saggy Glands
Amalgamated Transport And Trade
Posted - 2009.03.09 09:10:00 - [291]
 

Edited by: Saggy Glands on 09/03/2009 09:10:08
Bring back ghost training.

Calling it an 'abused bug' is a absurd joke when it was touted as a 'feature' not so long ago in CCP's own player guide and marketing information.

Let me guess though, the inability to train all the characters on your account concurrently is still a feature and not a bug.

jarhu
Blend.
Posted - 2009.03.19 15:25:00 - [292]
 

I hope CCP will see that ghost training is a necessity.

Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Frontier Venture
Posted - 2009.03.19 15:37:00 - [293]
 

Nope nada and no way. Pay to Play. In this case, Pay to train skills. I stand by CCP's decision for Ghost Training.

--Isaac

Incantare
Posted - 2009.03.19 15:58:00 - [294]
 

Supported but it won't happen :(, there's too much money in play.

Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Shadow Confederation
Posted - 2009.03.19 16:21:00 - [295]
 

Look everyone! Point and laugh at the idiot that posted!

X O D

Erika Bronz
Gallente
The Wyld Hunt
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2009.03.23 10:10:00 - [296]
 


Korrakas
Caldari
Legion of Ascension
Beyond Ascension
Posted - 2009.03.23 22:21:00 - [297]
 

yes for BS V over the hols

Johli
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.03.24 01:52:00 - [298]
 

tl;dr I want to not pay to advance myself in an internet spaceship game.

SZ Rota
Caldari
Esto Perpetua
Posted - 2009.03.24 14:50:00 - [299]
 

Signed.

Lagerstars
Caldari
Caldari Provisions

Posted - 2009.04.01 06:09:00 - [300]
 

This needs to come back, as per some other replies, sometimes people arent away from the game because they want to be, but because of RL circumstances.


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