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Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:02:00 - [241]
 

Originally by: bitters much
From the looks on the TRI KB, there seems to be an garage sell of Scorpions in Geminate Shocked






Two factors I guess..

1) Lower-SP alliances tend to fly lots of them, and they require the least 'skillz' and they're told its more useful than their NPC'ing ravens

2) Perhaps they wanted to try messing with the RR'ing

Not a bad approach but I'd have thought a falcon swarm would be more effective.


Veldya
Caldari
Guristari Freedom Fighters
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:12:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: bitters much
From the looks on the TRI KB, there seems to be an garage sell of Scorpions in Geminate Shocked






Two factors I guess..

1) Lower-SP alliances tend to fly lots of them, and they require the least 'skillz' and they're told its more useful than their NPC'ing ravens

2) Perhaps they wanted to try messing with the RR'ing

Not a bad approach but I'd have thought a falcon swarm would be more effective.




Don't be an idiot, try and DD proof a Falcon, its a freaking glorified cruiser. It is not going to be effective at all at ECM if you you want it to survive a DD.

touchvill
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:13:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: bitters much
From the looks on the TRI KB, there seems to be an garage sell of Scorpions in Geminate Shocked






Two factors I guess..

1) Lower-SP alliances tend to fly lots of them, and they require the least 'skillz' and they're told its more useful than their NPC'ing ravens

2) Perhaps they wanted to try messing with the RR'ing

Not a bad approach but I'd have thought a falcon swarm would be more effective.




Don't be an idiot, try and DD proof a Falcon, its a freaking glorified cruiser. It is not going to be effective at all at ECM if you you want it to survive a DD.


Scorps did a stellar job of surviving tbh.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:16:00 - [244]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/10/2008 08:18:00
Originally by: Veldya

Don't be an idiot, try and DD proof a Falcon, its a freaking glorified cruiser. It is not going to be effective at all at ECM if you you want it to survive a DD.


Well thats where our opinions differ. I don't believe in DD proofing anything. You end up with gimped, ineffective setups. The whole 'double DD proof' battleship thing is ridiculous, you end up with a bunch of completely useless ships.

Might want to also check the TRI KB for how well that DD proofing worked for them.

Another factor you might also want to consider is that smaller ships are more likely to avoid a DD by simply warping out, than quad-plated BS.

Aprudena Gist
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:22:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: bitters much
From the looks on the TRI KB, there seems to be an garage sell of Scorpions in Geminate Shocked






Two factors I guess..

1) Lower-SP alliances tend to fly lots of them, and they require the least 'skillz' and they're told its more useful than their NPC'ing ravens

2) Perhaps they wanted to try messing with the RR'ing

Not a bad approach but I'd have thought a falcon swarm would be more effective.




Don't be an idiot, try and DD proof a Falcon, its a freaking glorified cruiser. It is not going to be effective at all at ECM if you you want it to survive a DD.


Scorps did a stellar job of surviving tbh.


primarys are primarys they are the most effitve single ships they can take out upto 6 battleships dps's by themselves so yea they are primary for a reason.

Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:27:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: bitters much
From the looks on the TRI KB, there seems to be an garage sell of Scorpions in Geminate Shocked






Two factors I guess..

1) Lower-SP alliances tend to fly lots of them, and they require the least 'skillz' and they're told its more useful than their NPC'ing ravens

2) Perhaps they wanted to try messing with the RR'ing

Not a bad approach but I'd have thought a falcon swarm would be more effective.




Don't be an idiot, try and DD proof a Falcon, its a freaking glorified cruiser. It is not going to be effective at all at ECM if you you want it to survive a DD.


Try dd tanking a scorpion. I hear it gives great setups.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:33:00 - [247]
 

Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/10/2008 08:33:23
Originally by: Aprudena Gist

primarys are primarys they are the most effitve single ships they can take out upto 6 battleships dps's by themselves so yea they are primary for a reason.


You're posting out of context.

The Scorps didnt die just because they were primaried, they died to DD's mostly and the context of his post was 'DD proofing is ineffective'.


touchvill
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.12 08:45:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: touchvill
Originally by: Veldya
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: bitters much
From the looks on the TRI KB, there seems to be an garage sell of Scorpions in Geminate Shocked






Two factors I guess..

1) Lower-SP alliances tend to fly lots of them, and they require the least 'skillz' and they're told its more useful than their NPC'ing ravens

2) Perhaps they wanted to try messing with the RR'ing

Not a bad approach but I'd have thought a falcon swarm would be more effective.




Don't be an idiot, try and DD proof a Falcon, its a freaking glorified cruiser. It is not going to be effective at all at ECM if you you want it to survive a DD.


Scorps did a stellar job of surviving tbh.


primarys are primarys they are the most effitve single ships they can take out upto 6 battleships dps's by themselves so yea they are primary for a reason.


The use of a scorp is not in question, however my point is that they wern't very doomsday proof.

Lisosianya
Caldari
Solar Imperium
Posted - 2008.10.12 09:12:00 - [249]
 

Edited by: Lisosianya on 12/10/2008 09:12:31
5 shild extenders + 3 rigs gives 36-37k of shield, and if you maybe add few plates 2 maybe you can score some 15k of armor, but in that fit whole point scorp is bit pointles. But 2DD proven on that fit.

Goose Hypocrisy
Caldari
Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2008.10.12 09:12:00 - [250]
 

Edited by: Goose Hypocrisy on 12/10/2008 09:13:13
Falcons don't really do well in high lag situation, since their only defense is the ability to jam from great distances and warp cloaked, getting out of hairy situations... they also require a significantly higher SP investment to be effective, because at Recon IV they jam barely better than a Scorpion.

Scorpion has enough buffer HP to avoid being one volley'd by anything larger than a thrasher, can be insured, is a cheap effective throwaway ship. You can tank one to resist one single doomsday if you know the type withouth gimping (too much) the setup with appropriate resist rigs, however you won't be able to use particle dispersion rigs and you won't jam too far away.

Demented Fury
Minmatar
Jita Garbage Collection LTD
Posted - 2008.10.12 09:20:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Lisosianya
Edited by: Lisosianya on 12/10/2008 09:12:31
5 shild extenders + 3 rigs gives 36-37k of shield, and if you maybe add few plates 2 maybe you can score some 15k of armor, but in that fit whole point scorp is bit pointles. But 2DD proven on that fit.

scorps are not supposed to jam or anything

Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.12 09:56:00 - [252]
 

one can only assume they brought the,i think scout said 30+ scorps? to attempt to **** up our remote repping of the carriers which they might have been able to do in a completley perfect eve with no lag and such but instead they allowed themselves to all get bubbled and dd'd....alot,there isnt any ship that will be effective in a fleet(for what purposes they had) and survive dual dd's so maybe trying to not get dd'd next time would be a good start :P im sure this is all part of eddz plan tho.

very smart eddz! but luckily we can afford to dd you like over 9000 times more,keep trying tho,WE HAVE FAITH IN YOU EDDZ!im sure you will succeed eventualy tbh.....maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:00:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: Lisosianya
Edited by: Lisosianya on 12/10/2008 09:12:31
5 shild extenders + 3 rigs gives 36-37k of shield, and if you maybe add few plates 2 maybe you can score some 15k of armor, but in that fit whole point scorp is bit pointles. But 2DD proven on that fit.


The question is not if you can double DD fit a scorp or not - you can.

The question is what the hell is that ship useful for? It is a dreadful setup for anything other than surviving two DD's.



Twoside
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:01:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: Zandramus
maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><


why don't you cry to blobby and gooffellas about it, ohwai...

touchvill
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:05:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><


why don't you cry to blobby and gooffellas about it, ohwai...


Why don't you stop Tri taking Vale about it, ohwai...

bitters much
Gallente
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:05:00 - [256]
 

Edited by: bitters much on 12/10/2008 10:12:22

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><


why don't you cry to blobby and gooffellas about it, ohwai...


Why don`t you call your southener super friends to get rid of TRI, ohwai....

you did and they failed Crying or Very sad

I wonder when they realize that they just in Vale because you already wasted 3 others of your allied friends...




Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:05:00 - [257]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><


why don't you cry to blobby and gooffellas about it, ohwai...


I've heard that when a member of the NC whines about blobbing, it carries a lot of legitimacy. Very Happy

Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:06:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><


why don't you cry to blobby and gooffellas about it, ohwai...


Why don't you remove us about it.

Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:07:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
maybe,until then we will just have fun shooting the like ridiculous amounts of people trying to get rid of us ><


why don't you cry to blobby and gooffellas about it, ohwai...


sigh,you obviously dont realise what bl0bfest your fail alliance is apart of,someone give this guy a hand plz,mkthx

i would say you coudl ask iron,hydra or pure for some help in figureing this out but,well,we know what happend to them dont we.....C i can do it too zomgs!

Twoside
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:13:00 - [260]
 

sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/

Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:15:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


aye if i was you i would spend my time posteing on the forums rather than trying to accomplish something in-game as well,gg m8

Twoside
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:16:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Zandramus
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


aye if i was you i would spend my time posteing on the forums rather than trying to accomplish something in-game as well,gg m8


then why are you posting here more often then bitter puppy?

bitters much
Gallente
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:17:00 - [263]
 

Edited by: bitters much on 12/10/2008 10:18:47
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


You won the forum war, gratz \o/ You gained a spot in the history books of the MAX campaign Very Happy


Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:18:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


aye if i was you i would spend my time posteing on the forums rather than trying to accomplish something in-game as well,gg m8


then why are you posting here more often then bitter puppy?


its 6am and watching the nc make themselves look ******ed always puts me too sleep

Twoside
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:20:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: bitters much
Edited by: bitters much on 12/10/2008 10:18:47
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


You won the forum war, gratz \o/ You gained a spot in the history books of the MAX campaign Very Happy




Thanks, this coming from you means a whole awefull lot to me :)

Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:21:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: Zandramus on 12/10/2008 10:21:44
Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: bitters much
Edited by: bitters much on 12/10/2008 10:18:47
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


You won the forum war, gratz \o/ You gained a spot in the history books of the MAX campaign Very Happy




Thanks, this coming from you means a whole awefull lot to me :)


hmmm?
dont ignore me i need to get to sleep sometime today,you was on such a roll?!

bitters much
Gallente
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:21:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: bitters much
Edited by: bitters much on 12/10/2008 10:18:47
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


You won the forum war, gratz \o/ You gained a spot in the history books of the MAX campaign Very Happy




Thanks, this coming from you means a whole awefull lot to me :)


I aim to please, you welcome Cool




Loike
Caldari
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:22:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: Zandramus
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


aye if i was you i would spend my time posteing on the forums rather than trying to accomplish something in-game as well,gg m8


then why are you posting here more often then bitter puppy?


Where is my mention?

Twoside
Gallente
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:22:00 - [269]
 

Edited by: Twoside on 12/10/2008 10:24:49
Originally by: Zandramus
Edited by: Zandramus on 12/10/2008 10:21:44
Originally by: Twoside
Originally by: bitters much
Edited by: bitters much on 12/10/2008 10:18:47
Originally by: Twoside
sweet, bitter munchy, bitter puppy, touchmevil and zandinmyanus with just one simple post \o/


You won the forum war, gratz \o/ You gained a spot in the history books of the MAX campaign Very Happy




Thanks, this coming from you means a whole awefull lot to me :)


hmmm?
dont ignore me i need to get to sleep sometime today,you was on such a roll?!



I see what you did there!

edit: ah you edited right before I quoted you. Anyway, I wasn't ignoring you m8, there are just so many important srs poasts I can reply to

Zandramus
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.10.12 10:22:00 - [270]
 

Edited by: Zandramus on 12/10/2008 10:22:39
wtb page 10 plz

*damn it


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