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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Department of Redundancy Dpt.
Posted - 2008.10.10 04:44:00 - [1]
 



Highs:

3x T2 small NOS

1x T2 small energy neutralizer

Meds:

1x Best named MWD (can't use T2, and don't know if it will fit)

1x T2 Cap Booster 400s

1x 7km warp scram (20 km doesn't fit and this setup is made to be right next to the enemy so your neuts can worka t them)

1x x5 web, or t2 if it fits

Lows:

2x medium armor repairers (it fits, and with cap boosters it runs well, and it lets your arby become a rock)

2x EANMIIs

Drones:

whatever you want, but Hammerheads and Warriors would be helpful to you.


This looks funny but it works very well. I was able to destroy a wolf with it before it could get me to half shield.

I also killed a caracal with it.

you may say to put guns instead of the neuts, but if you neut the enemy then they can't tank you.

Don't try to fight BCs with it, cause their cap is stable enough to resist this, but anything cruiser sized or below will drop pretty fast.

Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
Posted - 2008.10.10 05:04:00 - [2]
 

Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2008.10.10 05:35:00 - [3]
 

I liked using an afterburner, 2x TD's, cap booster, disruptor, armor repper, plate, 2x eanms;

was able to kill drakes, brutixs, even came close to killing a megathron with it (tried to gank an apoc.. he couldn't kill me, i couldn't kill him Sad.

But this was before the script nerfs Evil or Very Mad

Xori Ruscuv
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.10.10 06:57:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Last Wolf
Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)


Eh?

Arbi probably has a better shot than the Vexor, given more room for backup drones.

Fair enough about the rupture though. A lot changed since I left and came back... Thorax and Vexor aren't 'all that' anymore. Looks like Rupture is really the only way to go!

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2008.10.10 09:18:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Last Wolf
Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)


Eh?

Arbi probably has a better shot than the Vexor, given more room for backup drones.

Fair enough about the rupture though. A lot changed since I left and came back... Thorax and Vexor aren't 'all that' anymore. Looks like Rupture is really the only way to go!


no the vexor and thorax still remain t1 cruiser badasses. both outdps the rupture easily and can out tank it (vexor is a maybe on the tank due to lower fitting and 1 less low). the vexor dishes the most dps of all the tech1 cruisers-it can get over 700 dps (unrigged with caldari antimatter). with the thorax, one can do a 1600 - medium electron thorax which is very good as well. rupture/stabber are both awesome too i guess but 700 dps is nice for even hacs/battlecruisers. anyways, a smart drone boat pilot, especially one that is playing with blasters, will be recalling and redploying drones frequently and should not be losing them all that often if they are playing that close up.
honestly each has its advantages - vexor can rely on drones or blasters or both, thorax can be buffered well and dish out fairly good damage or be fit for damage only and push 630 dps. the rupture has the advantage of not relying on destroyable or cap reliant damage which is useful. the stabber is pretty much a tech1 nano ship/heavy tackler.
each has its uses, some are funnier than the others (700 dps vexor for example)

Gawain Hill
Posted - 2008.10.10 11:51:00 - [6]
 

and the lord said unto you "Fit tracking disrupters on thine puppy"

since you're wanting to be within 7km you want to not be shot at and if you aint got tracking disrupters you're goin to be shot ALOT drop the cap booster and a web and have 2 td's you'll also then have enough fitting room for a 24km scram have 1 web and 3 active hardeners and then your tanking better against everything except laser boats which can't hit you anyway since they can't track you....

Ctp Hawkeye
Caldari
Vice And Valour
Posted - 2008.10.10 12:18:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Epegi Givo


Highs:

3x T2 small NOS

1x T2 small energy neutralizer

Meds:

1x Best named MWD (can't use T2, and don't know if it will fit)

1x T2 Cap Booster 400s

1x 7km warp scram (20 km doesn't fit and this setup is made to be right next to the enemy so your neuts can worka t them)

1x x5 web, or t2 if it fits

Lows:

2x medium armor repairers (it fits, and with cap boosters it runs well, and it lets your arby become a rock)

2x EANMIIs




Ive flown a few arbitrator fits and im concenrned about the tank. 1600mm is pretty much necessary, as your fit is paper thin.......a 1600mm plated crusier will be very tough to take down with this, and its virtually the norm to fit 1600mms on a crusier.

Also, Your using an injector to dualrep, when a 1600mm could allow a (probably) better tank,a nd also free up cap for neuting.

Either way, if you do go with this, drop an EANM for a adaptive nano plate II you may free up soem stuff for a warp dirsuptor II which will help a ton.


Just my opinion. :)

Oktavious Oblivion
Posted - 2008.10.10 13:43:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Feng Schui
I liked using an afterburner, 2x TD's, cap booster, disruptor, armor repper, plate, 2x eanms;

was able to kill drakes, brutixs, even came close to killing a megathron with it (tried to gank an apoc.. he couldn't kill me, i couldn't kill him Sad.

But this was before the script nerfs Evil or Very Mad


WTB 5 mid arby.

WhisperSilk
Posted - 2008.10.10 13:49:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: abrasive soap
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Last Wolf
Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)


Eh?

Arbi probably has a better shot than the Vexor, given more room for backup drones.

Fair enough about the rupture though. A lot changed since I left and came back... Thorax and Vexor aren't 'all that' anymore. Looks like Rupture is really the only way to go!


no the vexor and thorax still remain t1 cruiser badasses. both outdps the rupture easily and can out tank it (vexor is a maybe on the tank due to lower fitting and 1 less low). the vexor dishes the most dps of all the tech1 cruisers-it can get over 700 dps (unrigged with caldari antimatter). with the thorax, one can do a 1600 - medium electron thorax which is very good as well. rupture/stabber are both awesome too i guess but 700 dps is nice for even hacs/battlecruisers. anyways, a smart drone boat pilot, especially one that is playing with blasters, will be recalling and redploying drones frequently and should not be losing them all that often if they are playing that close up.
honestly each has its advantages - vexor can rely on drones or blasters or both, thorax can be buffered well and dish out fairly good damage or be fit for damage only and push 630 dps. the rupture has the advantage of not relying on destroyable or cap reliant damage which is useful. the stabber is pretty much a tech1 nano ship/heavy tackler.
each has its uses, some are funnier than the others (700 dps vexor for example)


Hate to say but if the ruppy is running a rack of light ECM's, the vexor and thorax are in trouble, only way its no contest is to run the med ecm drones.

Spectre3353
Gallente
Heavy Risk...
Posted - 2008.10.10 13:53:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: WhisperSilk
Originally by: abrasive soap
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Last Wolf
Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)


Eh?

Arbi probably has a better shot than the Vexor, given more room for backup drones.

Fair enough about the rupture though. A lot changed since I left and came back... Thorax and Vexor aren't 'all that' anymore. Looks like Rupture is really the only way to go!


no the vexor and thorax still remain t1 cruiser badasses. both outdps the rupture easily and can out tank it (vexor is a maybe on the tank due to lower fitting and 1 less low). the vexor dishes the most dps of all the tech1 cruisers-it can get over 700 dps (unrigged with caldari antimatter). with the thorax, one can do a 1600 - medium electron thorax which is very good as well. rupture/stabber are both awesome too i guess but 700 dps is nice for even hacs/battlecruisers. anyways, a smart drone boat pilot, especially one that is playing with blasters, will be recalling and redploying drones frequently and should not be losing them all that often if they are playing that close up.
honestly each has its advantages - vexor can rely on drones or blasters or both, thorax can be buffered well and dish out fairly good damage or be fit for damage only and push 630 dps. the rupture has the advantage of not relying on destroyable or cap reliant damage which is useful. the stabber is pretty much a tech1 nano ship/heavy tackler.
each has its uses, some are funnier than the others (700 dps vexor for example)


Hate to say but if the ruppy is running a rack of light ECM's, the vexor and thorax are in trouble, only way its no contest is to run the med ecm drones.


I fly the Thorax and Vexor a lot and pretty much the only T1 cruiser that scares me is the Ruppy. If they are carrying a web and a 1600mm plate then they can just pump you full of lead from falloff while you're out of blaster range and you really can't do crap about it.

Rupture > Thorax > Vexor > Arbi > ...................... > Caracal from my experiences in lowsec with tanky T1 cruisers.

Rudy Metallo
Veto.
Posted - 2008.10.10 14:57:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Oktavious Oblivion
Originally by: Feng Schui
I liked using an afterburner, 2x TD's, cap booster, disruptor, armor repper, plate, 2x eanms;

was able to kill drakes, brutixs, even came close to killing a megathron with it (tried to gank an apoc.. he couldn't kill me, i couldn't kill him Sad.

But this was before the script nerfs Evil or Very Mad


WTB 5 mid arby.


Beat me to it.

2x Medium Pulse II w/ Scorch
2x Small Nuet

1x Y-T8 MWD
2x TD II
1x 20km

1x 1600mm
2x EANM II
1x DCU II

7x Hammerhead II
5x ECM Meds
6x Warrior


If they leave 10km and you keep up transversal, they can't hit you. They kill a drone, you send out another. You're losing? Launch ECMs and gtfo.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2008.10.10 15:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Oktavious Oblivion
Originally by: Feng Schui
I liked using an afterburner, 2x TD's, cap booster, disruptor, armor repper, plate, 2x eanms;

was able to kill drakes, brutixs, even came close to killing a megathron with it (tried to gank an apoc.. he couldn't kill me, i couldn't kill him Sad.

But this was before the script nerfs Evil or Very Mad


WTB 5 mid arby.


hey, its been quite some time (to say the least) since i've flown one, much less looked at what the actual fittings where :p

Tac Ginaz
Gallente
Liberation Army
Posted - 2008.10.10 16:22:00 - [13]
 

I like this setup. Its rather cheap and effective. Not much tank but .. most things your size or smaller die before they can get close to you. Bigger than you ships dont come near you. Win-win. ;)

Low:
4X Reactor Control II

Meds:
1X AB
1X Med Shield Extender II

--OR 2X Med Shield Extender II your choice if you want to mix speed tank+shield or just pure shield HP)

1X Sensor Booster with range script
1X Tracking disruptor II with tracking speed script.

High:
2X 250mm Light Artillery II
1X Cruise Missile Launcher
1X Drone Link

Drones:
2X Max range Sentry drones II (your choice)
5X Light Drones II (I prefer Warrior IIs)

and the rest can be your choice of additional combat drones or a mix of ECM - Sensor Damp / Repair drones.


Excellent little setup for gangs support and more than once has it spooked ships bigger than it when it unleashed pain ^squared. No one expects an arbitrator sporting cruise missile ;)

Feilamya
Pain Elemental
Posted - 2008.10.10 16:45:00 - [14]
 

I tried dual rep Arbi a few times, and it sucked. It's not cap issues, it's simply your tank being too weak with low HP and crappy resists.

Works fine against noobs and ratters, though, but so does any other half-decent fit.

Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Frontier Venture
Posted - 2008.10.10 18:54:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ctp Hawkeye
Originally by: Epegi Givo


Highs:

3x T2 small NOS

1x T2 small energy neutralizer

Meds:

1x Best named MWD (can't use T2, and don't know if it will fit)

1x T2 Cap Booster 400s

1x 7km warp scram (20 km doesn't fit and this setup is made to be right next to the enemy so your neuts can worka t them)

1x x5 web, or t2 if it fits

Lows:

2x medium armor repairers (it fits, and with cap boosters it runs well, and it lets your arby become a rock)

2x EANMIIs




Ive flown a few arbitrator fits and im concenrned about the tank. 1600mm is pretty much necessary, as your fit is paper thin.......a 1600mm plated crusier will be very tough to take down with this, and its virtually the norm to fit 1600mms on a crusier.

Also, Your using an injector to dualrep, when a 1600mm could allow a (probably) better tank,a nd also free up cap for neuting.

Either way, if you do go with this, drop an EANM for a adaptive nano plate II you may free up soem stuff for a warp dirsuptor II which will help a ton.


Just my opinion. :)


I've managed to survive a station camp by two BSes with a 800MM plate. Of course it helps if ppl are coming in to help. But yes, a 1600MM plate is very good for it.

--Isaac

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2008.10.10 19:27:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tac Ginaz
Excellent little setup for gangs support and more than once has it spooked ships bigger than it when it unleashed pain ^squared. No one expects an arbitrator sporting cruise missile ;)
Neutral A single unbonused cruise missile
and 2 ship bonused warden II does about 168 dps. Who in thier right mind would ever get 'spooked' by that. I didn't include the 250mm arties as thier optimal is only 9km and this is supposed to be a ranged support setup. With the 250mm and your target in range of them your get 192 dps.

[Arby ranged support]
Highs: 1x drone link 1x heavy missile 2x heavy beam
Meds: 1x 10nm mwd 1x tracking disruptor 1x warp disruptor 1x lse
Lows: 3x pds 1x rcu
Rigs: 2x anti-em 1x anti-thermal
Drones: 2x warden 5x med ecm 5x med combat

With T2 weapons and sentries it will apply 200 dps at 60km and if you switch out the sentries for med combat then it jumps up to about 350 dps. ugh

Shereza
Posted - 2008.10.10 20:30:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Shereza on 10/10/2008 20:36:40
If you're going to put cruise launchers on anything smaller than a battleship that isn't a stealth bomber....

Consider a ferox, or even a drake. At least that way you might live long enough to realize your mistake and run away.

Edit: To avoid undue accusations of negativity...

[Arbitrator, POS Assault]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I

Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I
Ancillary Current Router I

Bouncer II x2

It'll be like a gnat before the raging furnace but hey, it'll possibly be of minor use as a "fleet cruiser." Laughing

Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Navigators of the Abyss
Posted - 2008.10.10 21:51:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: abrasive soap
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Last Wolf
Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)


Eh?

Arbi probably has a better shot than the Vexor, given more room for backup drones.

Fair enough about the rupture though. A lot changed since I left and came back... Thorax and Vexor aren't 'all that' anymore. Looks like Rupture is really the only way to go!


no the vexor and thorax still remain t1 cruiser badasses. both outdps the rupture easily and can out tank it (vexor is a maybe on the tank due to lower fitting and 1 less low). the vexor dishes the most dps of all the tech1 cruisers-it can get over 700 dps (unrigged with caldari antimatter). with the thorax, one can do a 1600 - medium electron thorax which is very good as well. rupture/stabber are both awesome too i guess but 700 dps is nice for even hacs/battlecruisers. anyways, a smart drone boat pilot, especially one that is playing with blasters, will be recalling and redploying drones frequently and should not be losing them all that often if they are playing that close up.
honestly each has its advantages - vexor can rely on drones or blasters or both, thorax can be buffered well and dish out fairly good damage or be fit for damage only and push 630 dps. the rupture has the advantage of not relying on destroyable or cap reliant damage which is useful. the stabber is pretty much a tech1 nano ship/heavy tackler.
each has its uses, some are funnier than the others (700 dps vexor for example)


I've killed too many vexors and thorax's in my Garmon rupture I lost count.

The ONLY ships that can stand a chance of surviving that satanic fit of a ship are the Moa and Maller which can withstand the barrage and eventually eat thru the buffer.

Thorax? Please, good luck getting 500 dps with a 1600 plate in that. (What a garmon ruppy will do quite easily.)

Vexor isn't even close.

Kirkus Jameus
Amarr
hidden claws
Posted - 2008.10.10 23:11:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Gawain Hill
and the lord said unto you "Fit tracking disrupters on thine puppy"

since you're wanting to be within 7km you want to not be shot at and if you aint got tracking disrupters you're goin to be shot ALOT drop the cap booster and a web and have 2 td's you'll also then have enough fitting room for a 24km scram have 1 web and 3 active hardeners and then your tanking better against everything except laser boats which can't hit you anyway since they can't track you....


this.

And it was also said "Use thine ship bonuses to the maximus"


fkingfurious
Posted - 2008.10.10 23:46:00 - [20]
 

Whats the Garmon fit Rupture when its at home?

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2008.10.10 23:49:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: abrasive soap on 10/10/2008 23:50:30
Originally by: Megan Maynard
Originally by: abrasive soap
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: Last Wolf
Just wait till you find someone that isn't so stupid to not kill your drones.

Or a 1600mm ruppy. even with 0 cap it will have enough buffer to tank you long enough to gank you. (Hey, that rhymed.. sorta)


Eh?

Arbi probably has a better shot than the Vexor, given more room for backup drones.

Fair enough about the rupture though. A lot changed since I left and came back... Thorax and Vexor aren't 'all that' anymore. Looks like Rupture is really the only way to go!


no the vexor and thorax still remain t1 cruiser badasses. both outdps the rupture easily and can out tank it (vexor is a maybe on the tank due to lower fitting and 1 less low). the vexor dishes the most dps of all the tech1 cruisers-it can get over 700 dps (unrigged with caldari antimatter). with the thorax, one can do a 1600 - medium electron thorax which is very good as well. rupture/stabber are both awesome too i guess but 700 dps is nice for even hacs/battlecruisers. anyways, a smart drone boat pilot, especially one that is playing with blasters, will be recalling and redploying drones frequently and should not be losing them all that often if they are playing that close up.
honestly each has its advantages - vexor can rely on drones or blasters or both, thorax can be buffered well and dish out fairly good damage or be fit for damage only and push 630 dps. the rupture has the advantage of not relying on destroyable or cap reliant damage which is useful. the stabber is pretty much a tech1 nano ship/heavy tackler.
each has its uses, some are funnier than the others (700 dps vexor for example)


I've killed too many vexors and thorax's in my Garmon rupture I lost count.

The ONLY ships that can stand a chance of surviving that satanic fit of a ship are the Moa and Maller which can withstand the barrage and eventually eat thru the buffer.

Thorax? Please, good luck getting 500 dps with a 1600 plate in that. (What a garmon ruppy will do quite easily.)

Vexor isn't even close.


This feels like a troll but I'll bite
I really would like to know how you get 500 dps with 4 medium autocannons alone irregardless of how many gyros you have
The vexor can hit 500 dps with a 1600 plate and keep 5 ecm lights aside from its rack of damage drones (garmon's setup does not hit 500 dps... especially with the 5 ecm lights. its more like 267 with rfemp...)
A thorax with 1600 plate will do either 484 dps with hammerheads or do 326 with ecm drones (ec600s > ec300s).
Also the moa is a pretty fail ship and at best is used as some comedy blaster ship which still suffers from lack of dps (a thorax with rails will outdps and outrange it ffs. only real advantage is the tracking, but even then to do more than negligible damage you lose any range advantage.)
Maller is great as a bait ship or can be used in interesting ways (think fat punisher), but it lacks in dps and its cap usage bonus to lasers is next to useless when you can use blasters or autocannons.

Claiming that you took down x amount of y ship with a rupture doesn't mean anything; a poorly fit navy mega can go down to a celestis (it has happened).

Also to op, you may want to change the cap booster to a tracking disruptor and possibly change it to single rep and upgrade some of the neuts or nos to mediums.

bldyannoyed
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2008.10.10 23:58:00 - [22]
 

500DPS out of a ruppy is easy as ****.

4x 220 II w/Hail, 3 gyro II's and 5 Hobgoblin II's.

500 DPS more or less on the nose.

Doesnt leave many low slots left over for a tank though :-/

abrasive soap
Operational Detachment-Alpha
Posted - 2008.10.11 00:54:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: bldyannoyed
500DPS out of a ruppy is easy as ****.

4x 220 II w/Hail, 3 gyro II's and 5 Hobgoblin II's.

500 DPS more or less on the nose.

Doesnt leave many low slots left over for a tank though :-/


He was talking about with ecm drones, no missiles, and no one uses hail other than on eft.

Stuart Price
Caldari
FLA5HY RED
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2008.10.11 01:49:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: fkingfurious
Whats the Garmon fit Rupture when its at home?


4 x Smacktalk Generating Algorithm
3 x Badass amounts of EHP
Over 9000 x lols at stupid interceptor/nano pilots who get killed by it
1 x Reputation

I dunno, but his psychological warfare is at least as effective as the actual ship and I suspect much of the success comes down to implants (as with Kessah's Harbinger).

Tac Ginaz
Gallente
Liberation Army
Posted - 2008.10.11 15:48:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Tac Ginaz on 11/10/2008 15:49:25
Originally by: Zeba
A single unbonused cruise missile
and 2 ship bonused warden II does about 168 dps. Who in thier right mind would ever get 'spooked' by that. I didn't include the 250mm arties as thier optimal is only 9km and this is supposed to be a ranged support setup. With the 250mm and your target in range of them your get 192 dps.

[Arby ranged support]
Highs: 1x drone link 1x heavy missile 2x heavy beam
Meds: 1x 10nm mwd 1x tracking disruptor 1x warp disruptor 1x lse
Lows: 3x pds 1x rcu
Rigs: 2x anti-em 1x anti-thermal
Drones: 2x warden 5x med ecm 5x med combat

With T2 weapons and sentries it will apply 200 dps at 60km and if you switch out the sentries for med combat then it jumps up to about 350 dps. ugh


That is very similar to my fleet support setup for the ship. except no rig and no close range modules.. I like to keep AWAY from things that may shoot me. The setup I put above is my roaming gang setup (swap shield for an AB or MWD depending on your skills).

The ship is not geared for dps, its geared for damage support. I've spooked (not killed) falcons and battlecruisers away from my ship with that setup. As I mentioned, its CHEAP and fun and it does its job. It's 100% expendable and affordable for mass-deployment. You can set up 3 of these cruisers for the price of a single T2 AF ..and you'll probably have more fun and be in more killmails than with that single AF.

Oh..and the arties are T2 using tremor. Range is higher than that. The whole point is to keep the enemy over 55km away so its the cruise+sentry that does the damage assist...anything closer switch to guns and the T2 light drones.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2008.10.11 17:01:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Tac Ginaz
The whole point is to keep the enemy over 55km away so its the cruise+sentry that does the damage assist...anything closer switch to guns and the T2 light drones.


KK. Then try this one on for size.

[arby long range fire support and falcon spooker also known as the 'why do I always get jammed first?' fit.]

Highs: 2x 250mm rails 1x heavy launcher 1x drone link
Meds: 1x 10nm mwd 1x sensor booster 2x omni tracking link
Lows: 3x tracking enhancer 1x signal amp
Rigs: none
Drones: 2x warden 5x warrior etc etc


The two rails do more dps than the single cruise missile and are insta hit with the tracking enhancers letting them hit any ship bigger than a frigate at close range. T2 rails and sentries should easily hit out to the 120km max targeting range with the heavy missile stopping at about 80km assuming support skills are all level 4 and 5. Plus you get a mwd so you can burn back to the gate with the rest of your gang and not get left behind. ugh


 

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