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Sabrosa Namaste
Posted - 2008.10.09 11:53:00 - [1]
 

I need a setup for a pilgrim with a scan probe launcher and covops cloak with recon 4, I cant figure one out myself, I might not be knowledgeable enough when it comes to rigs (some rigs reduce cpu need for stuff)

only fits I've been able to come up with need 2 co-proc's to fit it all, an example below, its far from perfect though, anyone have a better fit for a probing pilgrim?

[Pilgrim, probes]
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Egress Port Maximizer I
Egress Port Maximizer I

Hammerhead II x5

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.10.09 14:02:00 - [2]
 

(a) Train Recon V.
(b) Find Rule's setup.

Sabrosa Namaste
Posted - 2008.10.09 14:03:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Cpt Branko
(a) Train Recon V.
(b) Find Rule's setup.



no

ruleofthebone is a fgt

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.10.09 14:05:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Sabrosa Namaste
Originally by: Cpt Branko
(a) Train Recon V.
(b) Find Rule's setup.



no

ruleofthebone is a fgt


He knows how to fit a Pilgrim with a recon probe launcher though Very Happy

Sabrosa Namaste
Posted - 2008.10.09 14:25:00 - [5]
 

yeah its real easy with recon 5, which I'm not training, I need a creative recon 4 setup

Lithel
Taking a break from Eve Online
Posted - 2008.10.09 16:07:00 - [6]
 

Recon V, well worth it.

P'uck
Posted - 2008.10.10 02:56:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: P''uck on 10/10/2008 03:07:30
excuse me, I dont know if it will help a lot with the setup, but is mixing passive and active cap mods actually a good idea? I don't wanna run all the numbers right now, but it's the first thing that struck me as a little bit weird...

Still there wouldnt be THAT much improvement in CPU, altough you could get some tf by fitting eutectics :/

But 2 coprocs sounds really bad to me... is there by any chance any weird skill you overlooked? maybe electronics upgrades or something like that? Is the pilgrim really that tight on cpu? edit: are there cheap faction cpu upgrades with a noticeable improvement out there?

Oh, and there's a sisters recon launcher, that shaves off 10 tf.

Feng Schui
Minmatar
Cruor Evertum Dominicus
Posted - 2008.10.10 03:07:00 - [8]
 

Train Recon 5 damnit.

Korthan
Caldari
Pitch Black.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2008.10.10 03:23:00 - [9]
 

Truth be told you really need Recon V to fly the pilgrim otherwise you run into too many problems fitting it because you run out of CPU.

If you don't want to train Recon V then you're pilgrims will generally just fail.

Brother Welcome
Amarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.10.10 07:20:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Brother Welcome on 11/10/2008 07:55:59
Originally by: Sabrosa Namaste
I need a setup for a pilgrim with a scan probe launcher and covops cloak with recon 4,


If you want to have a scanner and not much else, why not use a Cov-ops? That way you'll scan faster.

If you seriously want to use a Pilgrim, which means wanting to be able to do stuff Pilgrim does *and* scan, then train Recon V; then with a 3% CPU implant fitted you can use something like the below. And it is not 'easy' to fit a Pilgrim with a scanner, even with Recon V.

[Pilgrim, BW Pilgrim Scanner]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Small Armor Repairer II
Dread Guristas Co-Processor
Damage Control II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Faint Warp Prohibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I, Optimal Range Disruption

Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Recon Probe Launcher, Fathom Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Trimark Armor Pump I
Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Warrior II x9
Hammerhead II x7
Infiltrator TD-600 x1
Praetor TD-900 x1

CPU = 513/513.71 CPU and 1179/1187.5 PG. Meaning you could make the fit with a Khanid or Gallente Navy CPU if you had a Sisters Recon Launcher. I fly this ship and have recently killed a Badger and a Reaper in it. Rawrr!

Edited to make my EFT ship the same as the one I actually fly, which is cheaper!

-vk

Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2008.10.10 07:29:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Sabrosa Namaste

only fits I've been able to come up with need 2 co-proc's to fit it all, an example below, its far from perfect though, anyone have a better fit for a probing pilgrim?



Well, using a Sisters probe launcher can help with the CPU problems -- they are a bit pricey though, in the 40-45mil range.

Brother Welcome
Amarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.10.11 07:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Alex Harumichi
Originally by: Sabrosa Namaste

only fits I've been able to come up with need 2 co-proc's to fit it all, an example below, its far from perfect though, anyone have a better fit for a probing pilgrim?



Well, using a Sisters probe launcher can help with the CPU problems -- they are a bit pricey though, in the 40-45mil range.



Cheaper to use a faction CPU I think. See my edited build above.

-vk

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2008.10.11 09:10:00 - [13]
 

What they posted above. I can't see you fit a Pilgrim somewhat sensible with Recon 4 *and* launcher tbh. Even without launcher I struggle alot to fit mine without having more than half fit named t1 rather than t2. Bit silly how my alt can fit his Rapier and Arazu t2 with Recon 3 and Recon 4 is way too short for the Pilgrim. Grr.

BW's suggestion seemed to be the most viable tbh, either that or fly another races recon, or train recon V which ultimately would be best anyway. Razz

Brother Welcome
Amarr
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2008.10.11 10:17:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Misanth
What they posted above. I can't see you fit a Pilgrim somewhat sensible with Recon 4 *and* launcher tbh. Even without launcher I struggle alot to fit mine without having more than half fit named t1 rather than t2. Bit silly how my alt can fit his Rapier and Arazu t2 with Recon 3 and Recon 4 is way too short for the Pilgrim. Grr.

BW's suggestion seemed to be the most viable tbh, either that or fly another races recon, or train recon V which ultimately would be best anyway. Razz


Amen to your 'grr' on comparative skill requirements.

I'm still not sure the OP has thought this through well. Why do they want to use a substantially handicapped Pilgrim (prior to having Recon V) rather than, say, an Anathema?

-BW

Sabrosa Namaste
Posted - 2008.10.11 11:04:00 - [15]
 

[Pilgrim, probes]
Small 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Dread Guristas Co-Processor
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Faint Warp Prohibitor I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I
Industrial Capacitor Recharger

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Egress Port Maximizer I
Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

Hammerhead II x5

this is the best recon 4 setup I could come up with.

Originally by: Brother Welcome

I'm still not sure the OP has thought this through well. Why do they want to use a substantially handicapped Pilgrim (prior to having Recon V) rather than, say, an Anathema?

-BW


going afk in low sec then coming back and probing down mission runners and killing them without having to switch ships which would alert them that I am active


 

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