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sheckles
Posted - 2008.09.26 23:53:00 - [1]
 

I gave 178.13 a try yesterday and today and looks like the PhysX drivers that they contain crash Eve randomly. I uninstalled the drivers and reinstalled 175.19 and still Eve crashed.

It wasn't until I uninstalled the PhysX drivers that Eve became stable again. So if you try them and get the same issue make sure the PhysX drivers are uninstalled.

Wynteryth Fett
Posted - 2008.09.27 14:33:00 - [2]
 

Anyone else having this problem? Usually if it just one person, I've found that its an issue with that person's system. When its 20-30 people, its an issue with the drivers.

Elysarian
Minmatar
Elysarian Corp
Posted - 2008.09.27 16:14:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Elysarian on 27/09/2008 16:14:53
I still have 177.92 driver (also has PhysX support) - no issues with Eve so long as I don't run fullscreen

*edit = fuggin typo monkeys

Jasonwilliams
Posted - 2008.09.27 21:40:00 - [4]
 

I have 178.13 and have no problems with Eve in full screen at 1920x1200. I played for several hours last night and alt-tabbed a few times and didn't crash.

8800GTX
4GB RAM
Vista x64 HP

sheckles
Posted - 2008.09.28 01:40:00 - [5]
 

All I can say is I tried those drivers and Eve crashed a lot and since getting rid of the PhysX drivers it hasn't. So basic fault finding for pc's, last thing to be installed is usually the culprit.

Coros
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.09.29 13:04:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Coros on 29/09/2008 13:04:53
nm

BlueMajere
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.10.01 13:55:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: BlueMajere on 01/10/2008 13:55:07
i have the nvidia geforce 8600 GS1 graphics card and ever since the patch, my game crashes after about a minute.....do we have the same problem, and how do i figure out how to fix it?

BlueMajere
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.10.01 14:46:00 - [8]
 

it also works fine with the classic graphics client.....but thats kinda ugly so if there is a preimium solution thatd be awesome

Filth
Caldari
Posted - 2008.10.01 22:31:00 - [9]
 

Is there a way to uninstall just the physx driver?

CCP Pete

Posted - 2008.10.01 22:40:00 - [10]
 

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=887081

i didn't see this thread til i after i replyed to the other.

i'm going to look into it a little tomorrow. i have installed the latest Nvidia drivers on my laptop (nvidia 8400GS) and i installed the physx stuff as well, i done thing 3 maybe 4 days ago and i've not had any problems with anygames.

but i will reply to the other thread or this 1, or both tomorrow after i looked into it a little more.

BlueMajere
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.10.02 01:04:00 - [11]
 

error report!

BCCode: 124
BCP1: 00000000
BCP2: 86329B20
BCP3: F2000040
BCP4: 00000800
OS Version: 6_0_6000
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1

can someone make sense of that?

sheckles
Posted - 2008.10.02 10:12:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: sheckles on 02/10/2008 10:23:59
I wasn't expecting dev responce but seeing as you are I'll try and trigger it again and get the crash dumps.

Note, I reported this to Nvidia also as I expected it would be a specific driver issue which they would/should fix

edit: pc setup

Vista 64
9800GX2
Phenom
4gig ram
Crosshair 2 mobo

Vista/Drivers/bios are upto date.

Emerald Cortess
Caldari
Konstrukteure der Zukunft
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2008.10.02 10:18:00 - [13]
 

Actually i think it not just a problem on Win XP but also on Vista: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=655516

*Simply* uninstalling the PhysxDrivers didn't helped. I'll maybe try some more things when i'm home again.

Emerald Cortess
Caldari
Konstrukteure der Zukunft
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2008.10.02 10:20:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Emerald Cortess on 02/10/2008 10:20:11
*double-post*

sheckles
Posted - 2008.10.02 11:13:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: sheckles on 02/10/2008 11:14:17
The Crash happens at warp gates mainly, sometimes undocking. I use windowed mode as I dual log a lot and happens if I dual logged or not.

Vista 64
9800GX2
Phenom
4gig ram
Crosshair 2 mobo

Vista/Drivers/bios are upto date.
Nvidia Driver settings all on Quality

In game settings:
Graphics/cache all on High
Windowed mode
Premium enabled

Background apps on:

AVG Virus Scanner
Diskeeper Pro
Evemon

Version=1
EventType=APPCRASH
EventTime=128674175791544806
ReportType=2
Consent=1
UploadTime=128674178177764806
Response.BucketId=949848408
Response.BucketTable=1
Response.type=4
Sig[0].Name=Application Name
Sig[0].Value=ExeFile.exe
Sig[1].Name=Application Version
Sig[1].Value=5.11.0.63763
Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp
Sig[2].Value=48da4b03
Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name
Sig[3].Value=blue.dll
Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version
Sig[4].Value=5.11.0.64059
Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp
Sig[5].Value=48dcc064
Sig[6].Name=Exception Code
Sig[6].Value=c0000005
Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset
Sig[7].Value=00055518
DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
DynamicSig[1].Value=6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
DynamicSig[2].Value=2057
DynamicSig[22].Name=Additional Information 1
DynamicSig[22].Value=fd00
DynamicSig[23].Name=Additional Information 2
DynamicSig[23].Value=ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
DynamicSig[24].Name=Additional Information 3
DynamicSig[24].Value=fd00
DynamicSig[25].Name=Additional Information 4
DynamicSig[25].Value=ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
UI[2]=D:\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
UI[3]=CCP ExeFile has stopped working
UI[4]=Windows can check online for a solution to the problem.
UI[5]=Check online for a solution and close the program
UI[6]=Check online for a solution later and close the program
UI[7]=Close the program
State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
State[0].Value=1
FriendlyEventName=Stopped working
ConsentKey=APPCRASH
AppName=CCP ExeFile
AppPath=D:\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe

Jolliejoe
Caldari
Stellar Implosions
Posted - 2008.10.02 12:31:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: CCP Pete
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=887081

i didn't see this thread til i after i replyed to the other.

i'm going to look into it a little tomorrow. i have installed the latest Nvidia drivers on my laptop (nvidia 8400GS) and i installed the physx stuff as well, i done thing 3 maybe 4 days ago and i've not had any problems with anygames.

but i will reply to the other thread or this 1, or both tomorrow after i looked into it a little more.


WOW.. no wonder so many devs fail at developing. You really consider using a 8400GS notebook GPU representative for the OP's and any other peoples problems with nVIDIA drivers? Geez...

CCP Pete

Posted - 2008.10.02 13:35:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Jolliejoe
Originally by: CCP Pete
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=887081

i didn't see this thread til i after i replyed to the other.

i'm going to look into it a little tomorrow. i have installed the latest Nvidia drivers on my laptop (nvidia 8400GS) and i installed the physx stuff as well, i done thing 3 maybe 4 days ago and i've not had any problems with anygames.

but i will reply to the other thread or this 1, or both tomorrow after i looked into it a little more.


WOW.. no wonder so many devs fail at developing. You really consider using a 8400GS notebook GPU representative for the OP's and any other peoples problems with nVIDIA drivers? Geez...


ok, what exactly is wrong with the 8400GS chip. if you read the thread i linked to you will see i have access to much better hardware, but when i'm in bed reading the forums and making a lame attempt to help people in my spare time, i really have no reason to use anything other than the laptop that i can run 2 eve accounts, proxy, server and DB while debugging.

Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
TransGalactic Networks
Posted - 2008.10.02 17:57:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: CCP Pete
Originally by: Jolliejoe
Originally by: CCP Pete
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=887081

i didn't see this thread til i after i replyed to the other.

i'm going to look into it a little tomorrow. i have installed the latest Nvidia drivers on my laptop (nvidia 8400GS) and i installed the physx stuff as well, i done thing 3 maybe 4 days ago and i've not had any problems with anygames.

but i will reply to the other thread or this 1, or both tomorrow after i looked into it a little more.


WOW.. no wonder so many devs fail at developing. You really consider using a 8400GS notebook GPU representative for the OP's and any other peoples problems with nVIDIA drivers? Geez...


ok, what exactly is wrong with the 8400GS chip. if you read the thread i linked to you will see i have access to much better hardware, but when i'm in bed reading the forums and making a lame attempt to help people in my spare time, i really have no reason to use anything other than the laptop that i can run 2 eve accounts, proxy, server and DB while debugging.


He's Caldari, what do you expect? ugh

rofflesausage
Posted - 2008.10.02 23:04:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Jolliejoe

WOW.. no wonder so many devs fail at developing. You really consider using a 8400GS notebook GPU representative for the OP's and any other peoples problems with nVIDIA drivers? Geez...


WOW.. another person talking about what he doesn't understand.

nVidia use what's called a shared GPU path, hence why you can use the same driver for many of the Geforce models.
A bug in the drivers will normally be present across multiple GPUs in the range. The 8400GS is a good a place than any to start.

Night Breed
Minmatar
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.10.03 01:46:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Night Breed on 03/10/2008 01:46:47
Well just please keep us updated as I would like to install these drivers and the Physx support if at all possible. I noticed that even on the old drivers(third most recent, cant remember driver number) that atleast with my Dual 8800 GT (alpha dog edition) I still have BSOD's unless i only toggle 1 GPU with Nhancer in eve. So is there anyway to use 2 or am I crap out of luck? Or is it just my damn comp.

PC Specs :

Nvidia Geforce XFX 8800 GT SLI (Alpha dog edition)
AMD Athlon xp 64 x2 4200+
A8n-SLI Premium mobo
2 Gigs of ram

CCP Pete

Posted - 2008.10.03 14:03:00 - [21]
 

sheckles : are you using a 32bit or 64bit version of windows 2008 ?

sheckles
Posted - 2008.10.03 20:49:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: CCP Pete
sheckles : are you using a 32bit or 64bit version of windows 2008 ?


64

Iiro Yeke
Posted - 2008.10.04 11:35:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: sheckles
Originally by: CCP Pete
sheckles : are you using a 32bit or 64bit version of windows 2008 ?


64


I seem to have the same problem, crashing at gates and sometimes undocking/warping... and once or twice clicking on a menu item in station. I've lost three ships to it thus far. I've followed just about every piece of folklore on these forums (from killing sound to reinstalling everything short of my actual OS).

AMD 4200+
Running XP sp2
GF7900 gtx
2gig ram
SB Live!

never had any problems untill 1.1.1

oh, i run the classic client too.

help!!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!!!

piratezxp
Caldari
Gene Works
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2008.10.04 21:55:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: piratezxp on 04/10/2008 21:55:08
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=889569
It could be the data execution prevention on this problem too...

Jaabaa
Minmatar
Dental Drilling Corporation
Posted - 2008.10.18 22:19:00 - [25]
 

I just downloaded 178.24 which is WHQL. I've not installed it yet though because of what I read here.

Any new news on this ?

Leelo Atriedes
Amarr
TransGalactic Networks
Posted - 2008.10.19 00:14:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Jaabaa
I just downloaded 178.24 which is WHQL. I've not installed it yet though because of what I read here.

Any new news on this ?


I use 178.13 with dual accounts, dual screen.
No issues.

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr
Gunship Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.10.19 00:24:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 19/10/2008 00:24:27
Intresting how this thread gets blue response asap. I guess nvidia is more important then ati. Maybe look into this problem aswell: ATI gate fire gpu crashes

WereIs TheLove
Posted - 2008.10.19 12:23:00 - [28]
 

eve hates ati.Twisted Evil

Low lander
Posted - 2008.10.19 18:18:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Low lander on 19/10/2008 18:20:55
I'm now using 178.24 with no issues

edit: bah I hate this forum engine, alt market checker of sheckles, didn't see the drop down menu to change it in time.

Shereza
Posted - 2008.10.19 18:47:00 - [30]
 

EVE doesn't hate ATI, ATI's drivers hate EVE, and other games.

Back in May they got corrupted and would BSOD my computer whenever I tried to play a game that used Pixel Shader 1.1. The uninstall software didn't remove the damaged files and the install software didn't over-write them. I switched to Omega drivers and the problem was fixed.

Now ATI's drivers BSOD my computer when my nightmare loads up in premium graphics. If I log in with my nightmare I get a BSOD with a pink square artifact and a stop code I haven't bothered checking out. If I change ships into my nightmare I get a BSOD with the same stop code I had when trying to install a pre-SP1 version of XP Pro on a 500gb drive indicating that somehow EVE + Premium + Nightmare + ATI's Drivers = something messing with my drives/partitions/boot table/something.

Lots of fun but it seems to be ATI's drivers as the only problem I have with Omega ATI drivers is that running 3 accounts on one computer randomly locks up my system without a BSOD and, so far as I can recall, I didn't have that problem with ATI's drivers.


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