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Kenneth McCoy
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:08:00 - [151]
 

Sweet jesus christ, it's no surprise the Devs don't take the time to talk to us anymore. All we do is whine, *****, and moan, mocking every single thing one of 'em says, even if they try to inject a bit of humor into the situation.

It's a ****ing game. I mean, seriously? If the server is having a rough day, try putting on some pants and going outside for a little while. I'm quite sure that they don't enjoy when things aren't going the way they want, just like us.

I wouldn't talk to you idiots either.

Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:09:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Kenneth McCoy
Sweet jesus christ, it's no surprise the Devs don't take the time to talk to us anymore. All we do is whine, *****, and moan, mocking every single thing one of 'em says, even if they try to inject a bit of humor into the situation.

It's a ****ing game. I mean, seriously? If the server is having a rough day, try putting on some pants and going outside for a little while. I'm quite sure that they don't enjoy when things aren't going the way they want, just like us.

I wouldn't talk to you idiots either.


had to laugh at the put on some pants line.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:09:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: C4w3
Originally by: Ranger 1
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 21/09/2008 17:00:03
You see, the node crashes are a balancing mechanism.
If you are trying to jump into a heavily defended system, most of you normally lag out and die without loading.
But with the new, improved system you crash the node before that happens. Then everyone drops and nobody can log back in for quite a while.
When you can log back in it's in trickles and spurts, a few at a time, for both sides who are desperately trying to do so.
Even then you can't unfairly kill anything because you can't fire, reload, change ammo, or in any other way take unfair advantage of the game mechanics.

Masterful.

* Of course I'm poking fun here, but ouch.






Ehh Ssrly dude this is a security risk beyond god... exploitable beyond recognition.

Senario 1: group 1 takes out cyno jammer jumps caps in system reaches max no resure possiblitly at all

Senario 2: over crowd a system deploy 1 gazillion bubbles at all gates wait ... enemy fleet other side ccp lets 150 out of 300 2 jump po0f get my drift.

CLOSE THE SERVERS NOW!


Your sarcasm detector is broken, read the last line.
However, in your scenario the node would crash and nobody would have control of the system. Sad but true.


Val D'Sylvae
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:10:00 - [154]
 

What a joke

Node crashes, rollbacks occur, people getting killed by ships they already destroyed 20 mins previously before the crash

Getting podded and sent back to a "previous" station that was once your updated clone base, several weeks ago

Collecting insurance on a ship twice, lol <---------best one so far Laughing

And the list continues

Monkey Saturday
Unknown Soldiers
The Spire Collective
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:11:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Kenneth McCoy
Sweet jesus christ, it's no surprise the Devs don't take the time to talk to us anymore. All we do is whine, *****, and moan, mocking every single thing one of 'em says, even if they try to inject a bit of humor into the situation.

It's a ****ing game. I mean, seriously? If the server is having a rough day, try putting on some pants and going outside for a little while. I'm quite sure that they don't enjoy when things aren't going the way they want, just like us.

I wouldn't talk to you idiots either.


And for those people who love the game, but have such busy schedules that they can only play on weekends may I say on behalf of them all...stfu.

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:13:00 - [156]
 

Oh please.

Shut your mouth and go play the game. Cut the whining and the panic.

The cap limit is high, a node coincidentally failed (this is similar to other node failures I've seen), and nobody is going to be able to use this as an exploit in 0.0 until we get dynamic load re-balancing, because we'll still get horrendous lag with fleet fights over 400. And the cap is higher than that.

So take a chill pill. Get up, stretch, stop hassling Wrangler (for crying out loud, he's one of the few "nice" devs left!), set a long skill, and eat some popcorn. It helps.

Trust me. Razz

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:14:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Kenneth McCoy
Sweet jesus christ, it's no surprise the Devs don't take the time to talk to us anymore. All we do is whine, *****, and moan, mocking every single thing one of 'em says, even if they try to inject a bit of humor into the situation.

I'm glad they are finding it funny.

I don't moan when the server has trouble, but I do object to solutions which are worse than the problem.

I'd rather Eve was down than allowed to continue in this crippled state.

Kenneth McCoy
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:14:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Monkey Saturday
Originally by: Kenneth McCoy
Sweet jesus christ, it's no surprise the Devs don't take the time to talk to us anymore. All we do is whine, *****, and moan, mocking every single thing one of 'em says, even if they try to inject a bit of humor into the situation.

It's a ****ing game. I mean, seriously? If the server is having a rough day, try putting on some pants and going outside for a little while. I'm quite sure that they don't enjoy when things aren't going the way they want, just like us.

I wouldn't talk to you idiots either.


One day is going to give you withdrawals? You're not normal.
And for those people who love the game, but have such busy schedules that they can only play on weekends may I say on behalf of them all...stfu.

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:15:00 - [159]
 

I'm glad they are finding it funny.

I don't moan when the server has trouble, but I do object to solutions which are worse than the problem.

I'd rather Eve was down than allowed to continue in this crippled state.


What crippled state? My Eve works just fine.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:16:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Deva Blackfire
gratz ccp - so you just agreed that "bring xyz players into system so it cannot be taken PERIOD" mechanics should work.

Whats the limit btw? 200? 300? So i know how many alt accounts in shuttles i need to move to destination.


I'm sorry how is hard limit any different from the system crashing after 1300 people in a system?

DRACO selen
The Executives
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:16:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler

Ok, it appears we're looking into what happened, it is unusual for nodes to die like this but it doesn't appear that it's connected to the system player limit. It will be investigated further though.

Any ETA when it'll be fixed yet?
Does ccp even know what caused the "problem"?

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:17:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
gratz ccp - so you just agreed that "bring xyz players into system so it cannot be taken PERIOD" mechanics should work.

Whats the limit btw? 200? 300? So i know how many alt accounts in shuttles i need to move to destination.


I'm sorry how is hard limit any different from the system crashing after 1300 people in a system?


Because now they won't have anyone to blame for their stupidity besides themselves?

Ferenc Puskas
Hunters Imperiale
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:19:00 - [163]
 

RABBLE

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:19:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: Vikarion
I'm glad they are finding it funny.

I don't moan when the server has trouble, but I do object to solutions which are worse than the problem.

I'd rather Eve was down than allowed to continue in this crippled state.


What crippled state? My Eve works just fine.

Good for you.
It doesn't occur to you, however, that in a competetive enviroment the fact that your Eve works fine gives you a distinct advantage over people who are not in such a fortunate situation?

It would be fine for a group of people to take advantage of another group who can not respond?

Ricier
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:20:00 - [165]
 

WIl stuck pepole gett a chance to be moved?
I'm stuck in a system(not jita) and nowone is moving me, wil this be sorted?

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:22:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Gnulpie
Or how was it that you laughed and called everyone ***gots and idiots and bandwaggoneers when they tried to kill the BoB capital shipyard and failed because a GM put a cap onto that system so that no backup could jump in and BoB was able to kill 40+ caps?

Where was your whining there that a system cap is unfair? And that it will mean the end of 0.0 warfare?



You know that cap never existed, right?

Val D'Sylvae
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:22:00 - [167]
 

Nobody is getting moved no matter where you are looks like

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:23:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Vikarion
Oh please.

Shut your mouth and go play the game. Cut the whining and the panic.

The cap limit is high, a node coincidentally failed (this is similar to other node failures I've seen), and nobody is going to be able to use this as an exploit in 0.0 until we get dynamic load re-balancing, because we'll still get horrendous lag with fleet fights over 400. And the cap is higher than that.

So take a chill pill. Get up, stretch, stop hassling Wrangler (for crying out loud, he's one of the few "nice" devs left!), set a long skill, and eat some popcorn. It helps.

Trust me. Razz


There are critical events transpiring in game this weekend which you apparently have no inkling of. Literally years of effort and game play hang in the balance for both sides. To have this happening at this particular time is very distressing for thousands of pilots on both sides. If one side or the other loses due to how they play the game, then no one would be complaining, however nobody likes to see that much effort at risk due to serious bugs.

So yes, you are going to see some sharp criticism from the more involved community members. Even from those that have a great deal of respect for CCP.

As a side note, I can stable your high horse for a reasonable fee.






Rei Toai
untilted.
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:23:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
gratz ccp - so you just agreed that "bring xyz players into system so it cannot be taken PERIOD" mechanics should work.

Whats the limit btw? 200? 300? So i know how many alt accounts in shuttles i need to move to destination.


I'm sorry how is hard limit any different from the system crashing after 1300 people in a system?


in a "crashed system" no onecan do stuff.
in a "capped system" those that are in the system can still to their stuff.

Shinma Apollo
BURN EDEN
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:25:00 - [170]
 

I'd like to be the first to ask for some kind of reimbursement for a completely crippled server. Quote dis if you're down

Myz Toyou
the Organ Grinder and Company
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:27:00 - [171]
 

I find it a class act that CCP decides to close a thread about that topic going on CAOD \o/
It shows how much you care about 0.0 Neutral. Obviously is the risk that comes with this "feature" for the random market alt or mission guy in Forge much higher than for some 0.0 alliances Sad

Good show CCP

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:27:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
gratz ccp - so you just agreed that "bring xyz players into system so it cannot be taken PERIOD" mechanics should work.

Whats the limit btw? 200? 300? So i know how many alt accounts in shuttles i need to move to destination.


I'm sorry how is hard limit any different from the system crashing after 1300 people in a system?


Because now they won't have anyone to blame for their stupidity besides themselves?


I will always blame how Eve functions on CCP. Fault does not lay with the customer.

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:32:00 - [173]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1

There are critical events transpiring in game this weekend which you apparently have no inkling of. Literally years of effort and game play hang in the balance for both sides. To have this happening at this particular time is very distressing for thousands of pilots on both sides. If one side or the other loses due to how they play the game, then no one would be complaining, however nobody likes to see that much effort at risk due to serious bugs.



I understand that. However, I'll betcha 100 million ISK that 95% of the people yelling in the thread aren't in this situation.

Originally by: Ranger 1
So yes, you are going to see some sharp criticism from the more involved community members. Even from those that have a great deal of respect for CCP.


I'm no stranger to criticizing CCP. But the problem doesn't appear to be of their making, it appears to be an equipment failure. **** happens.

Originally by: Ranger 1
As a side note, I can stable your high horse for a reasonable fee.


But can you shoe it? It needs shoeing, and the saddle is really uncomfortable. Razz







MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:32:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Rei Toai
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
gratz ccp - so you just agreed that "bring xyz players into system so it cannot be taken PERIOD" mechanics should work.

Whats the limit btw? 200? 300? So i know how many alt accounts in shuttles i need to move to destination.


I'm sorry how is hard limit any different from the system crashing after 1300 people in a system?


in a "crashed system" no onecan do stuff.
in a "capped system" those that are in the system can still to their stuff.



no in a capped system no one can do **** becuase of the lag

in a crashed system everyone feels it, downtime is extended, market orders are lost, poses go half shield for no reason, people dysync all over the node the system is in, there is 20 min module lag, the eve site crashes, wrangler is awoken by the sound of his e-mail box opening up, there are 1000s of posts about CCP rigging the game to make one side win as peoples computers start to combust.

thoraxius demioses
Gallente
no goats here
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:32:00 - [175]
 

CCp i only got 1 question for you lot. Are you dumb?

Vikarion
Caldari
State Trade Consortium
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:33:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
I will always blame how Eve functions on CCP. Fault does not lay with the customer.


Then get out and go play another game. No one will miss you, except your alliance mates. And probably not them.

Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:34:00 - [177]
 

Originally by: Vikarion
I'm no stranger to criticizing CCP. But the problem doesn't appear to be of their making, it appears to be an equipment failure. **** happens.


Of course it is thier making. CCP owns and created the hardware. They are reponsibile for its maintenance and the code that runs on it. No one else is to blame except CCP. Get it through your thick skull. They are the ONLY ones who can fix it.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:34:00 - [178]
 

On the other hand, if that is only to affect Jita, then why wasn't there a hard cap ONLY for Jita?

Or is it not possible to set a cap for a single system? ...

Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:35:00 - [179]
 

I have idea Make a server for Red, Goons and BOB.. to play in. That should solve our problems!

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2008.09.21 17:36:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Ranger 1

There are critical events transpiring in game this weekend which you apparently have no inkling of. Literally years of effort and game play hang in the balance for both sides. To have this happening at this particular time is very distressing for thousands of pilots on both sides. If one side or the other loses due to how they play the game, then no one would be complaining, however nobody likes to see that much effort at risk due to serious bugs.



I understand that. However, I'll betcha 100 million ISK that 95% of the people yelling in the thread aren't in this situation.

Originally by: Ranger 1
So yes, you are going to see some sharp criticism from the more involved community members. Even from those that have a great deal of respect for CCP.


I'm no stranger to criticizing CCP. But the problem doesn't appear to be of their making, it appears to be an equipment failure. **** happens.

Originally by: Ranger 1
As a side note, I can stable your high horse for a reasonable fee.


But can you shoe it? It needs shoeing, and the saddle is really uncomfortable. Razz









I can't shoe it, but as it will be stabled right next to MY high horse I can offer studding services if the price is right.

Oh, and your saddle is fine, your just sitting on it backwards. Laughing



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