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Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:17:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Euriti on 21/09/2008 14:17:19
About time. 1300+ in jita is dumb when there are hubs with near same prices within 15 jumps with less than 300 in local at peak times. Go there and shop instead, it doesn't lag. Try amarr, oursulaert or rens.

Berious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:18:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Edited by: Moirae Arachnea on 21/09/2008 14:11:33
I swear.. are you guys REALLY this dumb? The post is about JITA. ONLY JITA. No other system is being hit with this patch. Only JITA!.

Jesus H Christ frickin READ you dumbasses!

MA

*edit.... CCP NAVIGATOR, please fix the OP "again" so these morons will know that this mini patch is directed to and addresses only the JITA system, as CCP WRANGLERS OP stated before you altered it. Thank you.

~MA


It's far from clear the OP applies to just Jita, could be read either way. So official word as to whether they just broke alliance warfare would be nice rather than a bunch of nerd raging.

Edmund Khan
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:20:00 - [33]
 

MA show me where in one of the official posts theres any word about Jita?

Besides this thread title, which says nothing at all that it's all about Jita... And why did Wrangler post been changed if it's only about Jita?

Moirae Arachnea
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:21:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Vangogh61
Actually MA, I was not in Jita and got the notice that they weren't moving anyone because of the lag in Jita. Nice of you to pop off on those of us not sitting in a 1.0 system and still want to play. We do need an answer as how many is the cap as afk people can basically lock down a system for an indeterminate time then.


CCP Wranglers OP specifically stated the JITA system was the only one affected. Navigator mucked about with it to state that not everyone had to be moved from Jita during DT (read navigators post concerning the OP being modified to reflect not everyone had to be moved from jita). So... it is about JITA. Not an 0.0 system. Not a 0.3 system, not any system but JITA. Simple. Doesn't require a doctorate to understand. The only system affected is JITA. Nobody else is affected (unless it bugs and takes over EVE, in which case your screwed).

MA

Anonymous Troll
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:21:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Edited by: Moirae Arachnea on 21/09/2008 14:11:33
I swear.. are you guys REALLY this dumb? The post is about JITA. ONLY JITA. No other system is being hit with this patch. Only JITA!.

Jesus H Christ frickin READ you dumbasses!

MA

*edit.... CCP NAVIGATOR, please fix the OP "again" so these morons will know that this mini patch is directed to and addresses only the JITA system, as CCP WRANGLERS OP stated before you altered it. Thank you.

~MA


You must be new. You act like there is a reason to have any faith in CCP's ability to execute even the simplest fix without messing up the entire game.

Vangogh61
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:24:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Anonymous Troll
Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Edited by: Moirae Arachnea on 21/09/2008 14:11:33
I swear.. are you guys REALLY this dumb? The post is about JITA. ONLY JITA. No other system is being hit with this patch. Only JITA!.

Jesus H Christ frickin READ you dumbasses!

MA

*edit.... CCP NAVIGATOR, please fix the OP "again" so these morons will know that this mini patch is directed to and addresses only the JITA system, as CCP WRANGLERS OP stated before you altered it. Thank you.

~MA


Sent - 9/21/2008 1:16:00 AM
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Hi,

We are currently undergoing some unexpected technical difficulties which are causing severe problems regarding Jita.

This issue is also causing us to be unable to use our tools to assist you in your predicament in Jita.
As unfortunate as that sounds, trying again after the downtime tomorrow may be the best course of action.

Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
GM Zhainius
EVE Online Customer Support

But the problem MA was I was not in Jita and this was their response. So being entirely clear on the subject could be the response from CCP, not our understanding of the game.

Helena Trisaris
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:26:00 - [37]
 

The ingame news title is: "Star system player limit deployed to Tranquility"

Jita is not specifically mentioned at all in the in-game news. So a CCP reply just making it clear if it is Jita only or as i expect all systems would be good.

Fantome
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:26:00 - [38]
 

What about systems with pos warfare and multi alliancescoming in ?? THe first in get the system ???

paraci
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:29:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
During the downtime today, Sunday 21st September, we deployed a new feature to Tranquility. The Stargate will now check how many players there are in the system and deny access if you attempt to jump into it when too many players are present. In addition to this you will not be able to login on a character if the system has too many players. We have also increased the amount of GMs this evening and if you are unable to login, please press the ESC button and submit a petition in the Stuck category.

This is a temporary solution to this issue, we are working on a permanent feature which has the highest priority and will be implemented as soon as possible.


Isnt this a bit... whats the word... "wrong"??
Why would you implement something that is not thought well (you call it temporary) on and going to prevent me from logging into my character?

I am "paying" to play. So I will play whenever and where ever I want to. I obey your rules, only thing in return that I get from you is the right to play. And now ?!?!?!?!?

So my game tonight is in Jita. I cant login. I fill in the petition. and wait to be re-located to login most probably. I wait 30 mins and my game time is gone. saying I play 15 nights a month. 1/15 of the 15 euros that I pay is gone because of something that is implemented "temporary".

is this fair? are you gonna give me my 1 euro back?

note: I will not log in to jita tonight. I am not an idiot. but I dont think ccp is being nice with this new implementation. I protest! and its not the only thing I can do. I m in dodixie usually and I will be ****ed if I cant login there.

Ethen Bejorn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:29:00 - [40]
 

If this is a change made to all systems you can expect Eve to die faster than SWG. Another in a long line of terrible decisions.

Moirae Arachnea
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:29:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Moirae Arachnea on 21/09/2008 14:31:07
Wranglers original Post....

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
During the downtime today, Sunday 21st September, all players currently located in the Jita system were moved to neighboring systems due to the implementation of a new feature. The Stargate will now check how many players there are in the system and deny access if you attempt to jump into it when too many players are present. In addition to this you will not be able to login on a character if the system has too many players. We have also increased the amount of GMs this evening and if you are unable to login, please press the ESC button and submit a petition in the Stuck category.

This is a temporary solution to this issue, we are working on a permanent feature which has the highest priority and will be implemented as soon as possible.


Navigators post saying he mucked with wranglers post

Originally by: CCP Navigator
OP amended. It was not necessary to move everyone out of Jita after all.



A cookie Cutter Response created for tonights JITA patch...

Originally by: Vangogh61

Sent - 9/21/2008 1:16:00 AM
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Hi,

We are currently undergoing some unexpected technical difficulties which are causing severe problems regarding Jita.

This issue is also causing us to be unable to use our tools to assist you in your predicament in Jita.
As unfortunate as that sounds, trying again after the downtime tomorrow may be the best course of action.

Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.

Best regards,
GM Zhainius
EVE Online Customer Support

But the problem MA was I was not in Jita and this was their response. So being entirely clear on the subject could be the response from CCP, not our understanding of the game.


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Originally by: Anonymous Troll

You must be new. You act like there is a reason to have any faith in CCP's ability to execute even the simplest fix without messing up the entire game.


Been doing MMORPG's since they started. I have about as much faith that complex and dynamic code can be patched w/o bugs as I have in my ability to jump off a bridge, flap my arms and fly.

MA

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:38:00 - [42]
 

Clarification on witch exactly systems is this implemented plz?

Anonymous Troll
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:39:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Been doing MMORPG's since they started. I have about as much faith that complex and dynamic code can be patched w/o bugs as I have in my ability to jump off a bridge, flap my arms and fly.

MA



Been doing MMOGs since before they existed, and maybe CCP needs to hire Blizzard for some consulting. Verant and Sony never had any issues with Everquest 1 and that was basically the very first MMOG if you don't count UO. Why are you trying to make excuses for them? CCP alt?

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.09.21 14:40:00 - [44]
 

This change affects all systems currently, but I'd like to emphasize that this is a temporary fix, not a permanent one. Creating a better solution is top priority and we're working very hard to make it, test it and deploy it in the very near future.

Very near future is like soon, only without the trademark.

Moirae Arachnea
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:40:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Moirae Arachnea on 21/09/2008 14:45:12
Wrangler... I hope your socks fill with a million fleas! You need to be much clearer in your posts. Your OP stated and implied that Jita was the only one this patch affected. Now I have to eat major crow for telling these morons they were morons. Evil or Very Mad

Your all still morons. But there. Clarification for you.

ma

Berious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:41:00 - [46]
 

LOL, to the alt mobile lads we have a system to lock out!

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:42:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
This change affects all systems currently, but I'd like to emphasize that this is a temporary fix, not a permanent one. Creating a better solution is top priority and we're working very hard to make it, test it and deploy it in the very near future.

Very near future is like soon, only without the trademark.


Email me when the game is fixed.

Fail on an epic scale.


In fact, don't even think about billing me until it is fixed.

Berious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:42:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Originally by: Pesadel0
Clarification on witch exactly systems is this implemented plz?


face/palm

JITA

ma


Quoting ownage

(please fix this fast CCP)

Pesadel0
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:44:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Originally by: Pesadel0
Clarification on witch exactly systems is this implemented plz?


face/palm

JITA

ma


Read above troll? Ops?

Amantus
Gallente
Malignant Enterprises
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:47:00 - [50]
 

Wow. POS warfare will surely be fun with a system cap.

Moirae Arachnea
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:47:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Moirae Arachnea on 21/09/2008 14:48:45
Originally by: Ethen Bejorn
Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Originally by: Pesadel0
Clarification on witch exactly systems is this implemented plz?


face/palm

JITA

ma


Idiot.

Bite me... the original post said JITA.

MA

*edited to be nicer.

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:48:00 - [52]
 

G A M E O V E R

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.09.21 14:48:00 - [53]
 

Get back on topic and stop trolling each other please. Smile

Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:49:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Reptzo on 21/09/2008 14:50:44
Is this ASAP FIX going to be hardware solution or software solution?

Edit: I am not really looking for a complicated answer, just more of "we are fixing code", or "throwing more hardware at the problem"

Moirae Arachnea
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:50:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Get back on topic and stop trolling each other please. Smile


Can we troll you?

Ok back on topic. How long do you "estimate" it will take to fix this?

MA

Fantome
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:52:00 - [56]
 

@CCP Wrangler : You need to edit thread title now Rolling Eyes

Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:52:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Reptzo on 21/09/2008 14:54:12
Also, what has the limit been set at?

Edit: Also, what are you guys going to do about POS warfare till this gets fixed? One side can just flood the system, essentially disallowing the defenders from even being able to enter system.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.09.21 14:53:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Moirae Arachnea
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Get back on topic and stop trolling each other please. Smile


Can we troll you?

Ok back on topic. How long do you "estimate" it will take to fix this?

MA
No, you can't. I'm such a nice and friendly guy your mothers would cry if you trolled me.

There's no estimation yet, but as I said this has top priority, we can't magically make it happen tomorrow or anything of course, but it shouldn't take too long.

Graisse
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:53:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Graisse on 21/09/2008 14:55:21

I wonder wich is the average player cap in 0.0.

Just imagine a big alliance locking a system and smashing down all enemy assets without any opposition. Without the locking system, the defender at least could try to crush the node XD

Anyway, controling player behaviour is like dev metagaming, not very eve-esque :p

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.09.21 14:53:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Avon on 21/09/2008 14:55:47
ITT Wrangler doesn't realise Eve just died.

Added: So when it is fixed are the servers rolling back to today, or is the exploitation of this new (temporary) game mechanic going to be considered legitimate?


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